Can't believe there is so little love for Kiki's Delivery Service in the comments, it's my favourite of his films! Beautiful, relaxing and quite inspiring. But then, I guess it is also one of the least sci-fi.
I also recommend the book of Howl's Moving Castle and its sequel: Castle in the Air. I did hear of a second sequel coming out but I have yet to read it or even see it.
@MrLister: Oh, I LOVE me some Kiki. In fact, I just introduced by 5-year old niece to Kiki adn she gives me the perfect opportunity to rewatch it. (i've also introduced her to NAUSICAA and LAPUTA, but KIKI is her favorite).
@ReiRei0: Well, Oshii is a more introspective filmmaker, and by that I mean he's more concerned with the psychological aspects of his characters. That being said, he is pretty one-note in that he's beating the same story into the ground. Even his live actions are virtual remakes of his anime. His films also come across as cold and impresonal towards the audience which can be distancing, and NOT what a filmmaker should be doing (but rules are made for breaking, eh?)
The one thing I absolutely adore about Oshii is how modernist and self-reflexive many of his structures are with regard to various levels of reality. My favorite of his films is one of his earliest, URUSEI YATSURA 2, where the characters come to the conclusion that their lives are nothing more than repeated fiction as someone's idealized dream (later remade as one of his live action films as well). He takes this to another level with the GItS films (and their live action counterpart, AVALON).
Every so often you hear of some bad blood between Miyazaki and Oshii. And this is just hearsay, but apparently Miyazaki shits on Oshii films for too dry and cerebral, and Oshii shits on Miyazaki for how poorly Miyazaki treats his animators.
@tarhole: Kon is a guy I find EXTREMELY interesting. If I remember correctly, he worked under Oshii for a while, and he's taken certain concepts in Oshii's work to a whole other level, especially the idea of layered realities within a single narrative structure. My favorite of his films is PERFECT BLUE, and it's in improvement over the novel and more faithful live-action film.
Castle in the Sky and Nuasicaa Id call
post-post-apocalyptic.
This isnt humans after a disaster, its humans LONG after a disaster, which to me is different enough to be a separate genre.
I loved Howls Moving Castle and I adore Spirited Away. But as good as Castle in the Sky is, its been a constant thorn in my side for years. Many moons ago when I was younger, I used to watch a channel called The Box. A music channel were you could choose your own music! For at least 4 months a music video kept getting selected for Castle in the Sky. It was a beautiful slow song with footage from the film cut into it. I went out and bought both Japanese and English soundtracks, watched the flms credits (twice) and ive been checking Youtube ever since. All I seem to get is god awful techno crap and dancefloor filler bollocks!! If io9 can do some research or any of the io9'ers for me and post a video or link. I will humbly be your servant for an entire 17 minutes and 32 seconds! Please please help me! Its doing my head in!!!!!
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Howl's Moving Castle needs more love. Probably the least sci-fi related film on this list, but definately my favourite (skews more towards the fantasy crowd though). It has such a magic quality to it, in not just the story (which plays just like a somewhat twisted yet true fairytale) but in the beauty of the landscapes that the castle travels across.
Mononoke is probably superior in terms of depth of storytelling, but Howl's wins in terms of overall experience.
@perfectly nomal beast: In all honesty, I didn't love "Howl," so that might be why I didn't give it the attention it deserves... also bear in mind that I had to focus on the sci-fi elements.
I also agree "Mononoke" is a deeper, better-built story.
Aww, no plug for the Nausicaa comic? It is astounding in its own right, and in my opinion much more in depth than the movie. To anyone who can find it, read it!
@leicester: yes, but when a publisher actualy puts the effort in, and makes a decent translation/publication of a manga, brings it to the west, and even has a decent price....should we not, you know, actualy support them?
I absolutely love Castle in the Sky (or Laputa) the most out of all of his stuff. I certainly wouldn't call Pazu Japanese, though, and the robots seem to be made out of metal.
Personally I experienced these 'genre-mashups' through JRPGs first. Stuff like Final Fantasy, Secret of Mana and Wild Arms. Before that I'd always pictured fantasy as being medieval and that's it. Logically fantasy would work in pretty much ANY setting.
I originally didn't care much for Miyazaki or Ghibli's work. However, raving friends compelled me to give it another try a few years later and, lo, I love it now. I'm even visiting Japan in 65 days, 15 hours and 6 minutes, during which time I'll be visiting the Studio Ghibli Museum. Can. Not. Wait!
Some thoughts on the films (omitting those I don't feel strongly about)...
Nausicaa: One of the two films that shows Miyazaki's vision in its purest form, meditating on the beauty of nature, the horrors of war and the wonders of flight. Also one of his best.
Castle in the Sky: Probably his best and my second favorite. The other film to exemplify his purest vision. Only in a Miyazaki film could the mythic World Tree emerge from a Steampunk pot and fly into orbit.
My Neighbour Totoro: My favorite Miyazaki film for its simple depth. There is no villain but there is drama wrapped in a charming and timely environmental ethos. I have a Totoro plushie. My angry, stompy, Rivethead friends were creeped out by the Catbus.
Porco Rosso: Miyazaki's ode to flight, pulling copiously from his own childhood under the roof of an airplane builder. Lovely in its own way.
Princess Mononoke: See my comments below. Liked the completely different but identically-titled illustrated children's book he made more.
Spirited Away: Sumptuous Japanese atmosphere but otherwise didn't leave a big impression on me. Except that I did like the statement in the stink-monster.
Ponyo: Very cute, somewhere between Totoro and Mononoke. Devonian ocean life a plus for this fossil nerd. HAM!
I think people are doing themselves an injustice if they don't explore the rest of the Ghibli canon as well...
Grave of the Fireflies: One of the best WWII movies ever made and a heartrendingly potent story of the civilian experience in wartime.
Pom Poko: A silly and cartoony movie with a sensitive portrayal of environmental issues. The movie was made not long after that actual suburban development was finished. Also a fascinating clinic in Japanese culture and mythology.
Whisper of the Heart: Another charming, coming-of-age story. Interestingly takes place in the finished development featured in Pom Poko.
My Neighbours the Yamadas: A too-funny slice of Japanese family life with a very interesting visual style.
Iblard Jikan: A stunning, STUNNING short film showcasing a beautful world where nature, technology and aesthetics integrate so perfectly. Want to live there.
No, everyone needs to drop what they're doing and go READ Howl's Moving Castle. It is honestly one of the best books ever written, and if Miyazaki had followed that storyline, he would have created THE BEST MOVIE EVER. And I am deeply saddened that he did not.
Can't say I am a scholar of Miyazaki or whatever, but I always have a healthy respect of him. At this point, I do have this vague negative impression of him on some of his works. I enjoyed:
- The manga version of Nausicaa (what a disappointing hurried ending for such an epic story). And couldn't stand the unwatchable anime version of Nausicaa.
- Future boy Conan the TV series.
- Totoro, Howl's moving castle, and Spirited away (think his best works)
- Princess Mononoke (a bit long winded)
- Porco Rosso
Didn't enjoy much on other anime works from the studio.
I also felt a lot of his anime works need a good editor and trimmed most of his works by 15~45 minutes.
I am looking forward to see Ponyo, but decided to wait for the DVD (don't know what good is BD version of anime...).
Everyone needs to drop what they're doing and go see Ponyo. It's a long weekend, you have no excuse. (Well, I have to work tomorrow, but I already saw it). It's marvelous!
Forget "See also: Finding Nemo, The Little Mermaid" Ponyo more childlike wonder, and a more magical, strange oceanscape than either of those crummy old movies.
But seriously, go see it. The way the water is animated is nuts. It's almost gelatinous, like it's saturated with fecund magicousity. And the kids are so cute. And the sea has CRAZY DEVONIAN SEA ANIMALS IN IT!
@bakana: I saw Ponyo before its official US release as a fansub. It is a beautiful movie. Although I think it has his weakest story, the animation more than makes up for the script. I loved that he hand drew the waves himself.
@Bill-Lee: agreed. very very pretty visuals with a paper thin plot and shallow, childlike characters. which is appropriate for an animated children's movie for children about children starring children i guess. i was actually very surprised at how good the english voice acting was in this film as well. if you haven't seen it on the big screen i'd highly recommend it, what better venue for the stunning visuals after all?
@tetracycloide: I found the main problem with this film to be Ponyo's character herself - she gets almost no development, and yet we have to believe that SÅsuke has true love for her? How? When did this happen? He loves her like a pet, perhaps, but true love?
Ah well, still a beautiful film. And a great score.
Ok, I have seen and loved Miyazaki films. Which makes me wonder why the hell haven't I seen Porco Rosso? It sounds like an awesome film.
Can anybody recommend other miyazaki films that haven't been listed here?
@Silentkiller2774: Studio Ghibli's adaptation of Ursula K LeGuin's Earthsea novels was quite good. More for the animation and design than the story, to be honest. It finally comes to the US next year I think.
@Silentkiller2774: Yes, Porco Rosso is one of my favorites. I'd also recommend Pom Poko, Whisper of the Heart, and Only Yesterday - three Ghibli films that weren't directed by Miyazaki, but are still excellent.
@Bongoes: Porco Rosso is visually stunning. If you're a middle aged man suffering through a mid-life crisis, you may even find the protagonist compelling. If not, pick up the Disney series TaleSpin on DVD. It was was inspired by Miyazaki's work (the manga story that Porco Rosso was based on was published a couple of years before TaleSpin premiered). TaleSpin has many of the same elements of Porco Rosso such as an alternate history of life between the wars, a culture centering on aviation, and air pirates without Miyazaki's pretentious meditation on middle age.
@franklinshepard: Pom Poko and Only Yesterday were directed by Isao Takahata, the lesser known but equally talented co-founder of Studio Ghibli. Takahata's Grave of the Fireflies is one of the saddest movies about WWII ever made. Don't watch it after breaking up or getting a divorce, it will drive you to suicide.
the plot synopsis of Howl's Moving Castle is off by a mile; sophie was oblivious of Howl has a person till she actually meets him and even then she has to learn to like him first. Nausicaa may be considered the first Ghibli movie but it's still not a Ghibli movie; Castle of Cagliostro should be on this list -- hello, GIANT ROMAN CITY UNDER THE WATER.
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I also recommend the book of Howl's Moving Castle and its sequel: Castle in the Air. I did hear of a second sequel coming out but I have yet to read it or even see it.
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The one thing I absolutely adore about Oshii is how modernist and self-reflexive many of his structures are with regard to various levels of reality. My favorite of his films is one of his earliest, URUSEI YATSURA 2, where the characters come to the conclusion that their lives are nothing more than repeated fiction as someone's idealized dream (later remade as one of his live action films as well). He takes this to another level with the GItS films (and their live action counterpart, AVALON).
Every so often you hear of some bad blood between Miyazaki and Oshii. And this is just hearsay, but apparently Miyazaki shits on Oshii films for too dry and cerebral, and Oshii shits on Miyazaki for how poorly Miyazaki treats his animators.
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post-post-apocalyptic.
This isnt humans after a disaster, its humans LONG after a disaster, which to me is different enough to be a separate genre.
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Mononoke is probably superior in terms of depth of storytelling, but Howl's wins in terms of overall experience.
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I also agree "Mononoke" is a deeper, better-built story.
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I read them all myself recently;
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Personally I experienced these 'genre-mashups' through JRPGs first. Stuff like Final Fantasy, Secret of Mana and Wild Arms. Before that I'd always pictured fantasy as being medieval and that's it. Logically fantasy would work in pretty much ANY setting.
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Some thoughts on the films (omitting those I don't feel strongly about)...
Nausicaa: One of the two films that shows Miyazaki's vision in its purest form, meditating on the beauty of nature, the horrors of war and the wonders of flight. Also one of his best.
Castle in the Sky: Probably his best and my second favorite. The other film to exemplify his purest vision. Only in a Miyazaki film could the mythic World Tree emerge from a Steampunk pot and fly into orbit.
My Neighbour Totoro: My favorite Miyazaki film for its simple depth. There is no villain but there is drama wrapped in a charming and timely environmental ethos. I have a Totoro plushie. My angry, stompy, Rivethead friends were creeped out by the Catbus.
Porco Rosso: Miyazaki's ode to flight, pulling copiously from his own childhood under the roof of an airplane builder. Lovely in its own way.
Princess Mononoke: See my comments below. Liked the completely different but identically-titled illustrated children's book he made more.
Spirited Away: Sumptuous Japanese atmosphere but otherwise didn't leave a big impression on me. Except that I did like the statement in the stink-monster.
Ponyo: Very cute, somewhere between Totoro and Mononoke. Devonian ocean life a plus for this fossil nerd. HAM!
I think people are doing themselves an injustice if they don't explore the rest of the Ghibli canon as well...
Grave of the Fireflies: One of the best WWII movies ever made and a heartrendingly potent story of the civilian experience in wartime.
Pom Poko: A silly and cartoony movie with a sensitive portrayal of environmental issues. The movie was made not long after that actual suburban development was finished. Also a fascinating clinic in Japanese culture and mythology.
Whisper of the Heart: Another charming, coming-of-age story. Interestingly takes place in the finished development featured in Pom Poko.
My Neighbours the Yamadas: A too-funny slice of Japanese family life with a very interesting visual style.
Iblard Jikan: A stunning, STUNNING short film showcasing a beautful world where nature, technology and aesthetics integrate so perfectly. Want to live there.
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- The manga version of Nausicaa (what a disappointing hurried ending for such an epic story). And couldn't stand the unwatchable anime version of Nausicaa.
- Future boy Conan the TV series.
- Totoro, Howl's moving castle, and Spirited away (think his best works)
- Princess Mononoke (a bit long winded)
- Porco Rosso
Didn't enjoy much on other anime works from the studio.
I also felt a lot of his anime works need a good editor and trimmed most of his works by 15~45 minutes.
I am looking forward to see Ponyo, but decided to wait for the DVD (don't know what good is BD version of anime...).
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Did you watch the horrible us warriors-of-the-wind cut then?
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Forget "See also: Finding Nemo, The Little Mermaid" Ponyo more childlike wonder, and a more magical, strange oceanscape than either of those crummy old movies.
But seriously, go see it. The way the water is animated is nuts. It's almost gelatinous, like it's saturated with fecund magicousity. And the kids are so cute. And the sea has CRAZY DEVONIAN SEA ANIMALS IN IT!
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Ah well, still a beautiful film. And a great score.
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Can anybody recommend other miyazaki films that haven't been listed here?
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Plus, it's damn entertaining. One of the first anime I saw, back when it was still called "Japanimation".
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