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    Barack Obama Lowered Republicans' Testosterone

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    Image of SkippyTheMarine SkippyTheMarine
    10/21/09

    In reply to Barack Obama Lowered Republicans' Testosterone
    This reminds me of a study I heard on NPR about studying in Community College. They said, the kids who studied more did better, while the kids who had to work while going to school did worse. Weird. I mean, if you focus solely on school, you did better than if you had a job?

    How much did this study cost, about a million dollars? #neuroscience
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    10/21/09

    @SkippyTheMarine: go science! #neuroscience
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    10/21/09

    In reply to Barack Obama Lowered Republicans' Testosterone
    Why do they think they have to move on to studying sports teams? I know I've read at least 2 reports of the same thing happening to sports fans when their teams lose, from different countries.

    So, DUH... they're repeating old studies with bad methodology. I guess this is what passes for intellectual at Duke? #neuroscience
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    Image of Klebert L. Hall Klebert L. Hall
    10/22/09

    @Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.:

    I'm going to go with: for the money.
    -Kle. #neuroscience
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    Image of gorehound gorehound
    10/21/09

    In reply to Barack Obama Lowered Republicans' Testosterone
    hey now my testosterone didnot drop on that night cause i remember it well.
    1.i fought 4 guys and they were all big brutes but my little testosterone filled body clubbered em down

    2.after that i had sex with 3 girls all at the same time and multiple times too.

    3.i am 53 years old but i got tons of that ole testosterone #neuroscience
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    10/21/09

    In reply to Barack Obama Lowered Republicans' Testosterone
    I like the comment from the link.

    "Too bad the testosterone increase doesn't transfer to the socialist politicians so they will stand and defend the USA."

    Seriously, dude. There's a whole 1 socialist politician in the federal government. His name is Bernie Sanders.

    PS Why did the Barr voters' testosterone levels drop? That makes as much sense as if my levels dropped when McKinney didn't win.

    "OH NO my third party candidate didn't win an election in a two-party system!" #neuroscience
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    10/21/09

    @artiofab: I guess the testosterone drop is not necessarily related to surprise, just disappointment. #neuroscience
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    Image of Dirk Anger Dirk Anger
    10/21/09

    In reply to Barack Obama Lowered Republicans' Testosterone
    "This is a pretty powerful result," said Duke neuroscientist Kevin LaBar. "Voters are physiologically affected by having their candidate win or lose an election."

    Aw rilly?

    In other news, women cry more often and longer than men.

    (I really read that was news today)

    Surprising huh?

    We need reinforcements, let's call captain obvious.

    Yeah, I read the whole article and it IS bad science, because if you want to prove that the event E lowers trestosterone in group A, you have to compare the group A when E happens, with the group A when E doesn't happen, leaving all the other circumstances unchanged.

    The conclusion seems pretty obvious to me, but the methodology is flawed. They should have repeated this with at least two groups of republicans and two groups of democrats, measuring with two differents meethods, one in each group, because maybe chewing gum raises Republicans' testosterone and loweed it in Democrats. And repeated it at least twice, having another day (same week day, diferent week), and measure the difference to a regular week, because maybe Republicans lose more testosterone after their sunday dinner than the Democrats do.

    As I say, it seems obvious that disappointment lowers one's testosterone, but this experiment doesn't prove it. #neuroscience
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    Image of Binrah001 Binrah001
    10/21/09

    In reply to Barack Obama Lowered Republicans' Testosterone
    There's a lot of discussion of junk science in this thread. Instead, go here : [healthlibrary.epnet.com] and scroll down to the mention of Dabbs's study on the '94 World Cup and testosterone.

    Now, knowing this, liken the Obama-McCain thing to a sporting event; those that win are exhilarated, and have a surge of testosterone. Those that lose take a testosterone-nosedive.

    All that junk science make sense now? Good.
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    Image of Makidian Makidian
    10/21/09

    In reply to Barack Obama Lowered Republicans' Testosterone
    I read this yesterday and I laughed because that means my father was emasculated by Barack Obama just winning office. I am surprised some didn't have full on heart attacks. #neuroscience
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    10/21/09

    In reply to Barack Obama Lowered Republicans' Testosterone
    My gut feeling is that it's not cause Obama won, it was more because we wouldn't be seeing anymore of Sarah Palin. People were disappointed, they couldn't stare at her anymore :o #neuroscience
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    10/21/09

    @antpwny: Maybe they're just relaxed to know she's gone away #neuroscience
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    10/21/09

    @Dirk Anger: When you speak of relaxed do you mean flaccid? :o #neuroscience
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    10/21/09

    @antpwny: In the Republican case, probably. Also, what @sicboy just said. #neuroscience
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    Image of djklaus djklaus
    10/21/09

    In reply to Barack Obama Lowered Republicans' Testosterone
    I think a more interesting study would be the power of Hillary Clinton's voice to actually make a man's testicles crawl back up into his body. #neuroscience
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    10/21/09

    @djklaus: Not just her voice... #neuroscience
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    10/21/09

    @AmishJohn: Well, if we're going to go there (really? we're going there?), John McCain and George W. Bush tend to have off-putting effects on women. #neuroscience
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    10/21/09

    In reply to Barack Obama Lowered Republicans' Testosterone
    Another factor: alcohol use lowers testosterone levels very rapidly (an hour to an hour.5 after consumption) so this may just go to show that GOP males were boozing as McCain 08 went titsup. #neuroscience
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    10/21/09

    In reply to Barack Obama Lowered Republicans' Testosterone
    The angle of my dangle did decrease, but the heat of the beat did rise at an exponential rate, so in my book, it all equaled out. #neuroscience
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    Image of txtphile txtphile
    10/21/09

    In reply to Barack Obama Lowered Republicans' Testosterone
    You mean emotional states can affect hormone production???

    Well, that's not surprising at all, really. Oh well. It's still fun to point and laugh at Republicans; it makes me feel all manly. #neuroscience
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    10/21/09

    @txtphile: Manly, you mean like Barney Frank? #neuroscience
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    10/21/09

    @closeencounter: Yes. Not like Mark Foley, though. #neuroscience
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    Image of Brian Fowler Brian Fowler
    10/21/09

    In reply to Barack Obama Lowered Republicans' Testosterone
    Testosterone's waaay overrated anyways. #neuroscience
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    10/21/09

    @Brian Fowler: BULL SHIT!

    *FISTS!* #neuroscience
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    10/21/09

    In reply to Barack Obama Lowered Republicans' Testosterone
    Just when science can't get any sillier, something like this comes up....

    But why oh why did they have to announce it the week Colbert was off? #neuroscience
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    10/21/09

    In reply to Barack Obama Lowered Republicans' Testosterone
    Say it with me people: correlation does not equal causality. #neuroscience
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    Image of Seth Williams Seth Williams
    10/21/09

    @enderwiggin13: While I agree that one study is not enough to rewrite the books, all other things being even in the study, it would be a fantastic starting point for new insights into behavior and body responses. In other words, MOAR. #neuroscience
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    Image of ParryLost ParryLost
    10/21/09

    @enderwiggin13: But in this particular case it's hard to see how the causation could flow any other way... The Republicans didn't lose the election because their testosterone level fell after the results were released, and it's hard to imagine some third factor that would both cause the election results, and cause a testosterone drop just as they were announced. I may be missing something, but to me it seems hard to interpret this any other way than "because the Republican voters learned that their candidate lost the election, their testosterone levels fell." #neuroscience
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    Image of Dirk Anger Dirk Anger
    10/21/09

    @ParryLost: Maybe their Testosterone levels dropped because they were tired.

    Or because disappointment lowers it, as some people have pointed in the comments #neuroscience
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    10/21/09

    @Dirk Anger: Isn't "disappointment lowers it" pretty much all the study is trying to show, just in the context of politics, though?

    As for "maybe they were tired," that would have presumably affected democratic voters as well as republican and libertarian ones. Plus, the study already took into account that men's testosterone levels drop normally at that time of day, it seems... So, unless there were actual errors in the way the study was conducted and analysed, being tired alone wouldn't explain the outcome. #neuroscience
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    10/21/09

    @ParryLost: Did they check how much it normaly decreases in Republicans in a normal day? because, I don't know, maybe they discover that morning people are more likely to vote Republican, or they are tired because being Republican is correlated to working harder, or etc etc etc. They should compare to normal days too, that's all I ask. #neuroscience
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    10/21/09

    @Dirk Anger: That's a good point, I think. I have no idea if they checked that, but I doubt it. That sort of biological difference between people in different political parties would be, arguably, an even more interesting result, though... and more disturbing... #neuroscience
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    10/21/09

    @ParryLost: It wouldn't really surprise me if that kind of thing happened, but I was just pointing to the methodology of the experiment being, well, what a schoolboy would think of #neuroscience
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