I love Giger, but this looks phoned-in. I would guess his tastes don't include the source material. He really could have gone to town on this one. #batmobile
@gods-n-clods: Actually, that's how he works. At least when he is working for someone he doesn't like. He goes to his studio in Switzerland, the director faxes or phones in what he wants, and Giger faxes over sketches. Giger described this process in one of his books. It's how he worked on Alien 3 and Species. The sketch we're looking at is probably one of the faxes not the original. Really, if you were a painter and concept designer, would working for Joel Schumacher inspire your best work?
@Bill-Lee: That is how most contracted artists work; just fax the thumbnails. Nothing wrong with that. I just thought if he was a kid who grew up with Swiss Batman, he'd be all up in Shumacher's pie. Species was something he took time to design, this is a once-off.
I'm acquainted with a nice photog that got to shoot him when she was younger, and he was a sweetie to her. Other interviews make him look like a kind, thoughtful man. He makes respectful comments about his mother, and how offended she would be by his art.
Obvs psycho, or the Swiss are good stock? #batmobile
@psybab: Yeah really. It reminds me of that Saturday Night Live sketch with John Lovitz as Picasso... eating at a restaurant, paying the bill with a signature on a napkin, "I'm Pi-CASSO!" #batmobile
This reminds me in certain (vague) ways of Cronenberg's 'Videodrome,' in that it is unconventional and has a sort of loopy structure. Considering her love of Giger (she collected his works, and had him compose the art for her 1981 hip-hop-esque album) Deborah Harry would've probably starred in this for free.
This is one of the very best gifts I've been given in a long time, Lauren.
I'm reading the screenplay right now and as brilliant as it is, it does have a lot going against it or I should say, it contains elements that would easily turn Hollywood of 1980 against it.
1.It's written by a woman and features an unconventional female lead. When it comes to screenplays and lead roles, Hollywood in 1980 is not what we call an equal opportunity employer.
2.It doesn't easily fit into the preconceived notion of science fiction. It's not hard science fiction with manly astronauts, it's not space horror like Alien, and it's not space opera or military sci-fi with explosions and funny looking aliens.
3. It refuses to follow the standard "three act" Aristotelian formula but a looser structure inspired by the French New Wave movement. While Tarantino, Wes Anderson, and Wong Kar Wai might get away with that today, in 1980 nobody was gonna touch it.
Considering the trend of sci-fi lately, Gamer, Surrogates, and the treatment of great literary works on film. Maybe its best the good stuff is sitting on the shelf. Science Fiction lately seems to be reaching out to greater audiences instead of honoring the fans and intent of the art. Sci-Fi is being bastardized by movie studios, Will Smith and Fox
@burlybax: If "The Giant Gila Monster" teaches us anything, it's that science fiction used to be all about honoring the fans and the intent of the art.
i read about this in the book Greatest Sci-Fi Movies Never Made, and this is the one that is probably the most heartbreaking, because it was one of the few that was an original script rather than based on another medium. (the only other one that I think of is the original version of ET - Night Skies? - that would have been closer to Signs meets Poltergeist).
@Wookie1972: While that may be true, if this movie had actually been made it would probably have followed one of two tracks: it would have overshadowed Alien -- and all that would entail for that franchise, or (I believe more likely) it would have been popularly derided as an Alien rip-off (reality isn't important in forming such an opinion) and ended up as a cult favorite, at best. Or, it could have been poorly executed dreck, but I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt.
Granted, I'm pretty much pulling this out of my behind, but it seems to me that a movie with H.R. Giger designs and a character named Ripley coming out a couple of years after Alien would have a tough time staking its own claim. This is assuming that studio squbbles didn't force creative changes.
@Wookie1972: Very good little book that. It makes me a little sad reading about how the story has been picked apart over the years and how it'll likely never get made.
I seem to recall the writer mentioning Men in Black as using a lot of material from the script, but was unable to do anything about it for one reason or another.
Will have to find the book and reread that chapter again. Ah, got it.
@Trystero: However, it would have been on Earth, which is something the makers of Alien never tried (yes, I'm not counting AvP.) It's a very, very different-sounding movie from Alien. If anything, it sounded like it resembled the Hunger with a little bit of Casablanca intrigue thrown in. It would not have hurt them to try.
@CodenameV: Yes, but the point is that THEN it hadn't really been done to death. This is like..30 year old artwork, not something he's rehashed a thousand times since.
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I'm acquainted with a nice photog that got to shoot him when she was younger, and he was a sweetie to her. Other interviews make him look like a kind, thoughtful man. He makes respectful comments about his mother, and how offended she would be by his art.
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This is one of the very best gifts I've been given in a long time, Lauren.
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Cronenburg would be a perfect director.
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1.It's written by a woman and features an unconventional female lead. When it comes to screenplays and lead roles, Hollywood in 1980 is not what we call an equal opportunity employer.
2.It doesn't easily fit into the preconceived notion of science fiction. It's not hard science fiction with manly astronauts, it's not space horror like Alien, and it's not space opera or military sci-fi with explosions and funny looking aliens.
3. It refuses to follow the standard "three act" Aristotelian formula but a looser structure inspired by the French New Wave movement. While Tarantino, Wes Anderson, and Wong Kar Wai might get away with that today, in 1980 nobody was gonna touch it.
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Granted, I'm pretty much pulling this out of my behind, but it seems to me that a movie with H.R. Giger designs and a character named Ripley coming out a couple of years after Alien would have a tough time staking its own claim. This is assuming that studio squbbles didn't force creative changes.
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I seem to recall the writer mentioning Men in Black as using a lot of material from the script, but was unable to do anything about it for one reason or another.
Will have to find the book and reread that chapter again. Ah, got it.
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