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    5 Things I Learned About Women From The James Bond Books
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    Image of RAHfanboy RAHfanboy
    11/15/08

    In reply to 5 Things I Learned About Women From The James Bond Books
    I love the Bond books and will continue to do so. Fleming did an admirable job of characterization with Bond, who was indeed a deeply flawed character. Fleming may have shared some of the opinions his characters espouse, but it would be a mistake to assume, that because a character says something, that the author feels the same way.


    Bond did not hate women, indeed he loved at least a few. Vesper, Tracy, and yes, his "scottish treasure" May. Yes, he used women on occasion, but this was, again, part of the character.


    As to anti-gay sentiments, these were common at the time, and this was accurately reflected by the dialogue, especially in the "locker room" atmosphere of man to man discussions. Many of the other sexual attitudes brought up in this post have at least a tiny grain of truth, although not nearly as clear cut as stated by Fleming's characters.


    The Bond books were set in a rough and tumble world of men (1950s men, no less), and I would hate to see the horrible monstrosities that would result if they were rewritten with PC attitudes from 50 years in the future, especially if they were written for the hard-core liberal feminist in mind.

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    11/14/08

    In reply to 5 Things I Learned About Women From The James Bond Books
    Wow. I didn't know Jessica Simpson was a Bond Girl in a Sean Connery Bond film . . .
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    Image of AmishJohn AmishJohn
    11/14/08

    @SuperBien: 'Ah think sumptin' bounced up inta' mah UNDERcarriage!'
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    Image of Synergy Synergy
    11/14/08

    In reply to 5 Things I Learned About Women From The James Bond Books
    I'm Australia and voting is compulsory here. Does that mean my government wants me to be a lesbian?
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    11/15/08

    @AlmostNorrmal: Yes.
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    Image of Quilt Quilt
    11/13/08

    In reply to 5 Things I Learned About Women From The James Bond Books
    "Is it just me, or do Chinese women taste different then other women."


    A line I will remember until the end of time.

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    Image of aegies aegies
    11/13/08

    In reply to 5 Things I Learned About Women From The James Bond Books
    The awesome Diamonds are Forever cover is from the penguin reissue of the Bond novels in the UK. The other covers are here:


    [noyoudidntask.blogspot.com]


    And they are all amazing.

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    Image of Elizabeth Weinbloom Elizabeth Weinbloom
    11/13/08

    @aegies: Agreed. Couldn't decide which was my favorite!
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    Image of Brogan Brogan
    11/13/08

    In reply to 5 Things I Learned About Women From The James Bond Books
    i know it was top do with gay men but you missed the FACT that homos can't whistle.
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    Image of Elizabeth Weinbloom Elizabeth Weinbloom
    11/13/08

    @Brogan: That is a good one. And yet, "these homos make the worst killers," according to Bond in Diamonds Are Forever.


    I got a whole word document of crazy offensive quotes from these books, man.

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    11/13/08

    In reply to 5 Things I Learned About Women From The James Bond Books
    women LOVE goofy sexual innuendos... it REALLY turns us on... don't forget that.


    so if you're having sex with us... or thinking about having sex with us... make sure you say things like you're keeping the British end up...


    i'm SWOONING just thinking about it.

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    Image of russdanger russdanger
    11/13/08

    In reply to 5 Things I Learned About Women From The James Bond Books
    1)Why is the man on the "Spy Who Loved Me" book cover carrying a television set through flames?


    2) Doesn't that woman get a lot of bugs caught in her cleavage when she rides her scooter?

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    11/13/08

    @russdanger: He doesn't want to miss "Dr. Who."
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    11/13/08

    In reply to 5 Things I Learned About Women From The James Bond Books
    Weinbloom, Weinbloom ... I'm trying to understand the pun.
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    Image of Elizabeth Weinbloom Elizabeth Weinbloom
    11/13/08

    @Mathmos: Funny, I get that comment often in my life.
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    11/13/08

    @Mathmos: Isn't Weinbloom German for: Monstrously huge cleavage?
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    Image of Elizabeth Weinbloom Elizabeth Weinbloom
    11/13/08

    @joetato: Umm. I feel uncomfortable now.
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    Image of Keen314 Keen314
    11/13/08

    In reply to 5 Things I Learned About Women From The James Bond Books
    > "All women love semi-rape,"


    WTF is semi-rape? Is that when Optimus Prime rapes you?

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    Image of CrazyRedd CrazyRedd
    11/13/08

    @Keen314: The best part is that robots can't compute "no". I'm pretty sure it was part of the Voigt-Kampff test.
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    Image of Jack_Burton Jack_Burton
    11/13/08

    @CrazyRedd: "My mother? Let me tell you about my Mother..."
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    Image of Meirelle Meirelle
    11/13/08

    In reply to 5 Things I Learned About Women From The James Bond Books
    As a woman, I don't know if I could have survived living back then.


    Nobody grabs my ass and lives. Nobody.

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    Image of BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit) BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit)
    11/13/08

    @meirelle, Commander Closet Commie: I don't know... have you seen Daniel Craig? Mai ass - let me sho u it!
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    Image of Sproing Sproing
    11/13/08

    @meirelle, Commander Closet Commie:

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    11/13/08

    In reply to 5 Things I Learned About Women From The James Bond Books
    So, if I were a Bond Girl I'd probably be named Lovie LeBigmac, because this is where my priorities lie.
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    Image of Annalee Newitz Annalee Newitz
    11/13/08

    @BrutallyHonestBabes: Hey Lovie LeBigmac, you're looking toothsome! Get in my car and I'll make a bigger mac out of you?
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    11/13/08

    @BrutallyHonestBabes: And I'd be Adoray Hommous. Wonder Twins, activate!
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    Image of Willtheconqueror Willtheconqueror
    11/13/08

    In reply to 5 Things I Learned About Women From The James Bond Books
    Ummmmm quick question.

    What does this have to do with anything having to do with this site?
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    Image of Charlie Jane Anders Charlie Jane Anders
    11/13/08

    @Willtheconqueror: The James Bond books/movies are pretty darn science fictional at times, including some crazy supervillain plots, as we detailed here: [io9.com]
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    Image of Smeagol92055 Smeagol92055
    11/13/08

    In reply to 5 Things I Learned About Women From The James Bond Books
    Huh.


    Well, I can't really say I'm surprised; never actually read a Bond book myself, but it makes sense.
    Usually in the transition between book and film, a lot of the book's content is scrapped.


    I mean, hell, has anyone actually ever read Stephen King's It before? There's a whole section on 12-year-olds losing their virginity to each other. Pretty graphically done, too.

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    11/13/08

    @Smeagol92055: Yes, I remember that. That was a...strange part.
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    Image of NotChoinski NotChoinski
    11/13/08

    In reply to 5 Things I Learned About Women From The James Bond Books
    I Voted!
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    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    11/13/08

    @NotChoinski: Lesbo!


    Oops, me too...

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    Image of LittleDragon LittleDragon
    11/13/08

    @Evil Tortie's Mom: Wow! I never knew there were so many Lesbians in the country. At least I am in good company. Until Bond gets to us and cures us all. Do we at least get to chose which Bond cures us?
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    Image of Charlie Jane Anders Charlie Jane Anders
    11/13/08

    @ldevitt: No, it's luck of the draw. You might get stuck with Woody Allen. Or George Lazenby.
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    Image of Moff Moff
    11/13/08

    @NotChoinski: I know Mrs. Moff voted, because we went to the polling place together.


    SO WHAT THE HELL AM I DOING WRONG HERE?

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    Image of Dunny0 Dunny0
    11/13/08

    @Moff: You must secretly be James Bond.


    I must now devote my life to tricking you into a stunningly elaborate death trap with a fairly easy escape route.

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    Image of Moff Moff
    11/13/08

    @Dunny0, Team T/A: It was so obvious and yet I never realized it.
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    Image of ggodo, the man from R.O.A.C.H. ggodo, the man from R.O.A.C.H.
    11/14/08

    @Moff: But you can't be Bond, If you were, Yavin 4 would never be the tourist resort it is today.
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