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Cold is more survivable than hot, honestly. I only hope we get an ice age instead of global warming... much, much easier for warm-blooded species to survive an ice age.
@braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.: Absolutely. But I expect there would be as many famines from global warming as from an ice age.... at least with the ice age they're not accompanied by waves of tropical disease and insect swarms.
@JesusDeSaad: You've never lived anyplace where it snowed, have you? Snow reflects solar energy extremely efficiently. Solar power would work fantastically in cold conditions. And it's much easier to heat a confined space, like a greenhouse, than it is to cool a similar space.
@Dirk Anger: Debate is not denial. I'm not expert but I do have occasion to video science conferences. Climatologists are divided on the issue of current anthropogenic influence. None really debate the theory - that it could happen. The issue is whether it is happening now.
One conference I worked last year had an Antarctic researcher who arued convincingly that the Antarctic region has shown no lasting change - the area has been in flux for as far back as the ice cores go. He cautioned though that this didn't mean full speed ahead. He simply said there is no excuse for misrepresenting the facts even in the name of a noble cause.
I'm as green as you can get but I don't think we need to cause a human disaster by trying to prevent a climate disaster. And as I stated before - I'm a nuclear whore so take my perspective with a grain of salt...preferably molten.
@Ruthless, If you let me: Same here - wife is almost always complaining that she goes to bed with a micro-sun.
Btw - if we do get his with a hyper fast ice age...I've seen Day after Tomorrow.
1 - Listen to the boy.
2 - Don't go looking for the boy.
3 - CG wolves of the future look terrible and can be ignored.
4 - Be sure to quote Jackson's "Deep Blue" line at least once a day.
I noticed that THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW is referenced in the tags for this article, but no one has mentioned it yet... are we to assume now that that movie wasn't just another disaster spectacle?
As someone who lives literally smack dab in the middle of what used to be Lake Aggasiz, I say big deal - it will just mean our winter will be the whole year long instead of six months.
@LittleDragon: Unfortunately my weather domination machine isn't operational yet. However, if we pivot the U.S. about a point along the Nebraska/Kansas border Michigan and New Mexico will change places. The resulting earthquakes may kill millions of people, but that's a small price to pay for our own personal gains.
@EdificeComplex: What price? That may be an improvement. Fewer people to rebel against us as our march toward world domination continues. And I am sure the Alaskans will thank us for moving them into a warmer climate. And its not so much personal gains as personal comfort.
Now should we just enlarge the panama canal or should we just destroy most of central America?
@LittleDragon: At first I thought just destroy Central America. But once the rotation occurs Central America will be roughly where the North Pole is. Frozen rain forests could serve well as a place to detain political prisoners. Or as a secret Ice Station Zero. So enlarging the Panama Canal it is.
@LittleDragon: Never fear, by combining modern technology and human ingenuity we have been able to develop a system that not only keeps you as warm as the inside of the tauntaun you are riding, but prevents you from causing those around you to choke on your stench.
If the weather in Denmark over the last 3 years is any indication, we're *not* heading for an ice age.
My first winter here was very cold, my second winter here was less cold, but still cold enough to produce a good amount of snow. This year, the danish weather service is predicting that we might not even have a white christmas, that is, the temperature might be warm enough that we won't have any significant amount of snow.
Incidentally, today was a particularly cold day compared to recent weeks, but not as cold as I recall from last year and the year before, at this time.
Here's a 15-day forecast for Copenhagen, if anyone is interested enough to check out:
@Roklimber: Did you even read the article? The warming causes a melt which triggers the ice age. Without the ocean currents bringing warm water north, it freezes solid up there.
I was midway through the 4th paragraph when I was interrupted by a phone call. After the call was over I forgot that I hadn't finished reading the article and just made my post.
Had I read it all the way through, I'd had seen the part about global warming being the cause of a sudden ice age.
Thanks for pointing it out. I'd not have re-read the article if someone hadn't pointed out the fact that I was jumping to conclusions.
@Fwiffo: Aw man, I was snow blind not to see that comment. My mind must have been drifting around too much. There will be snow blowing a comment by me like that again.
.....AVALANCHE!!!
Sorry couldn't think of a way to work that into a sentence.
@TotalFanGirl: Silly, Global Warming causes Ice Ages. Also it makes the Earth wetter, drier, colder, warmer, more windy, less windy. sunnier, cloudier, and everything else. Global Warming, there is nothing it cannot do!
@browncoat001: You are, of course, absolutely correct. Let's not forget it also gave us Mr. Super Environmentallity Man. I have this cape. It's blue and green with a little earth on the back and swirly clouds. I would give it to Mr. Gore, but he's too busy making guest appearances on 30 Rock.....
interesting...
when I first read this I thought "Canadian scientists...two months from now...um, these guys are predicting what we usually call 'Winter'"
:)
This theory has been around since 1985. I'm glad to see evidence of it. People need to get their heads out of their butts regarding climate change. Regardless of the cause, it can happen at any time and we are ill prepared for it.
@ProfessorSara: You think water moves fast? You should see ice. It moves like it has a mind. Like it knows it killed the world once and got a taste for murder.
Nature is lethal but it doesn't hold a candle to man.
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-Kle.
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Lake Agassiz.
After the famous geologist. Respect!
#lakeagassiz
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In a global warming disaster we can always install solar panels to power up a/c units. When all else fails, there's always the sun.
In a global ice age, once we're out of power, we're screwed.
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Oh well, I now also weighed water shortage, so I must side with extreme cold.
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One conference I worked last year had an Antarctic researcher who arued convincingly that the Antarctic region has shown no lasting change - the area has been in flux for as far back as the ice cores go. He cautioned though that this didn't mean full speed ahead. He simply said there is no excuse for misrepresenting the facts even in the name of a noble cause.
I'm as green as you can get but I don't think we need to cause a human disaster by trying to prevent a climate disaster. And as I stated before - I'm a nuclear whore so take my perspective with a grain of salt...preferably molten.
12/02/09
May all your fuel cycles be thorium and all your salts be chloride-35 free.
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Everyone, get into the ark now!
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Btw - if we do get his with a hyper fast ice age...I've seen Day after Tomorrow.
1 - Listen to the boy.
2 - Don't go looking for the boy.
3 - CG wolves of the future look terrible and can be ignored.
4 - Be sure to quote Jackson's "Deep Blue" line at least once a day.
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Now should we just enlarge the panama canal or should we just destroy most of central America?
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LOL... you just reminded me of a joke. Suffice it to say that it ends with this:
No! Don't! Please, don't! Stop! Don't! Stop! No, please, don't stop! Don't stop!
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Unless youre thinking of Empire Strikes Back, because it could be a lot like that, sans imperial walkers (or maybe not *fingers crossed*)
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" I will not sleep inside a TaunTaun. Takes forever to get their guts out of your hair."
Not to mention the smell...
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[gizmodo.com]
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My first winter here was very cold, my second winter here was less cold, but still cold enough to produce a good amount of snow. This year, the danish weather service is predicting that we might not even have a white christmas, that is, the temperature might be warm enough that we won't have any significant amount of snow.
Incidentally, today was a particularly cold day compared to recent weeks, but not as cold as I recall from last year and the year before, at this time.
Here's a 15-day forecast for Copenhagen, if anyone is interested enough to check out:
[www.accuweather.com]
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To be honest, not entirely.
I was midway through the 4th paragraph when I was interrupted by a phone call. After the call was over I forgot that I hadn't finished reading the article and just made my post.
Had I read it all the way through, I'd had seen the part about global warming being the cause of a sudden ice age.
Thanks for pointing it out. I'd not have re-read the article if someone hadn't pointed out the fact that I was jumping to conclusions.
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My search for the appropriate material to make a "jump to conclusions" mat was inconclusive so, no, I didn't have one. :)
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Yes, that comment was just frigid.
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What a waste.
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.....AVALANCHE!!!
Sorry couldn't think of a way to work that into a sentence.
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Usually in late October.
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1) an ice age is just around the corner.
2) your car is broken.
I keed, I keed, never been there.
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when I first read this I thought "Canadian scientists...two months from now...um, these guys are predicting what we usually call 'Winter'"
:)
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Nature is lethal but it doesn't hold a candle to man.
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