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    What Would SF Look Like If Copyright Only Lasted 20 Years?

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    Image of OsDavis OsDavis
    01/09/09

    In reply to What Would SF Look Like If Copyright Only Lasted 20 Years?
    Wow, look at how evenly spread the voting was! Excellent poll, io9, maybe Best. Poll. Ever. Now if you'll excuse me, i'll be imagining an Earth on which producers instantly began shooting their own continuation of the Doctor Who story about 10 minutes after "The Five Doctors" ended -- imagine the continuity obsessers in that universe!
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    01/10/09

    @OsDavis: Thanks! Glad you liked it! I was hoping it would get people having some stimulating discussions... :)
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    Image of OW-Holmes:Bringer of Fear OW-Holmes:Bringer of Fear
    01/09/09

    In reply to What Would SF Look Like If Copyright Only Lasted 20 Years?
    I think we would have Dune sequels that dont suck.
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    Image of corpore-metal corpore-metal
    01/09/09

    In reply to What Would SF Look Like If Copyright Only Lasted 20 Years?
    I think if IP law was like that, things would change enormously and ways we simply don't expect. Probably a lot of good things would happen (Disney wouldn't be able to extend copyright to that damn mouse for another 6 billion years, for starts.) and a lot of bad things would happen (Maybe a lot of deserving artists wouldn't get credit or adequately paid for their work.)


    I don't think it would lead to outright collapse, nor do I think it would lead to some kind of artistic flowering but it certainly would shake things up a lot in good and bad ways.


    IP law is a balancing act. We have to continuously adjust things one way or another so that creativity flourishes. If it's only public domain, creativity dies. If everything is straitjacketed in a repressive copyright, patent, trademark regime where only middlemen benefit, creativity dies.


    One of best explanations I've seen recently about IP law and what needs to be fixed about it is a web comic called "Bound By Law"


    [www.law.duke.edu]


    Read it.

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    Image of OW-Holmes:Bringer of Fear OW-Holmes:Bringer of Fear
    01/09/09

    @corpore-metal: Why didnt anyone tell me when I was wasting my time on the internet instead of studying for my IP final that I could have been wasting my time on the internet and studying for my IP final?
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    Image of Grand_Marquis Grand_Marquis
    01/09/09

    In reply to What Would SF Look Like If Copyright Only Lasted 20 Years?
    Realistically, not much would change in how things are done. The timetables would just get sped up. Hell, these days studios don't even wait twenty years to do a remake. What happens to most Hollywood products after two entire decades would be irrelevant to most modern creative heads, except as a chance to whine about royalties if someone else tries to use it.


    Look at Mickey Mouse. Disney's going to hold copyright on that rodent till hell freezes over, but how much of their revenue is actually generated, specifically, by the guy? Almost nothing! He's not in any films, he's not in any ads outside Disney bumpers - and even then only rarely anymore - and he's not a major component of their merchendising branch anymore, either. Hell by the time the mid fifties rolled around, most Disney shorts involved Donald's friends anyway. The Mouse had already taken a back seat. Had they lost him then, it wouldn't have been much of a big deal.


    The primary reason copyrights last so long is so that people can protect the potential to make money on it in the distant future. Almost no product ever actually does this, though. And the few times they do, you can trace it back to a lack of imagination or foresight on the creators' part.

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    Image of Sproing Sproing
    01/09/09

    @Grand_Marquis: BUT MICKEY MOUSE IS ... uh, on my kid's size 5 diapers ...
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    Image of braak:  You are, as usual, completely correct. braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.
    01/09/09

    In reply to What Would SF Look Like If Copyright Only Lasted 20 Years?
    Huhm. I do the worldbuilding because it's fun.
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    Image of ggodo, the man from R.O.A.C.H. ggodo, the man from R.O.A.C.H.
    01/09/09

    In reply to What Would SF Look Like If Copyright Only Lasted 20 Years?
    Moff's dream. The Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny. . . IN THE CAGE!
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    Image of Rasselas Rasselas
    01/09/09

    In reply to What Would SF Look Like If Copyright Only Lasted 20 Years?
    Cory Doctorow's head would explode from a galaxy-class orgasm.
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    01/09/09

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    I'd be making a lot less clever Tee-Shirts.
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    Image of 92BuickLeSabre 92BuickLeSabre
    01/09/09

    In reply to What Would SF Look Like If Copyright Only Lasted 20 Years?
    I had all three of those toys. Not sure why, but I did.


    Probably due to a confused Aunt I'd guess.

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    Image of Sproing Sproing
    01/09/09

    @92BuickLeSabre: OMFG me too! I still miss that silver-chassis green-headed robot guy. Mom chucked all my toys when I left for college.
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    Image of Jrsy Devil's Advocate® Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
    01/09/09

    @92BuickLeSabre: Me too. Also had the StarHawk...


    [www.plaidstallions.com]

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    Image of 92BuickLeSabre 92BuickLeSabre
    01/09/09

    @Sproing: I miss the R2-ey character. Inexplicably my favorite. I think I convinced myself at some point that it was actually a secret character from Star Wars.


    @Jrsy is the dude, playing the dude, disguised as another dude: I bow down to the extent of your off-brand 70's toy collection good Sir.

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    Image of Jrsy Devil's Advocate® Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
    01/09/09

    @92BuickLeSabre: @Brandon Herren:


    It's a pity none of them survived me. So many toys, so many violent, destructive endings....

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