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geekgrrl
10/23/09

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I don't think I like these at all. how are we to know what forums have already been created? how do I even know what to look for?

another thing: I looked for a Chicago forum by doing io9.com/tag/chicago. I got all comments that merely mentioned Chicago, without a hash tag. this seems like nothing more than a clumsy aggregate. it's definitely not an effective way to communicate. #io9mastercontrol
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Guang
10/23/09

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I have a request/suggestion regarding the forums: Can we have some way of browsing them please? Like, maybe, a link to a page showing all threads by most recent post? #io9mastercontrol
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Motoki
10/23/09

@Guang: A number of have been saying this below, but I feel like we are speaking CharlieBrownTeacherese because they are not understanding us and responding.

That and they seem to want to stubbornly cling to a needlessly complicated, clunky system because it's new and techie and cool rather than have a boring, old fashioned effective, user friendly system. #io9mastercontrol
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Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
10/23/09

@Motoki: Mwok mwok mok wa-wa.

I want just plain ol' forums. BBCode is fine with me. #io9mastercontrol
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Guang
10/24/09

@Motoki: Glad to know I'm not the only one. I'd love to keep up with the bleeding edge of tech, but just not possible here in China with everything blocked. I need at least a Dummies guide to...

It looks like they got rid of the useful "click here to see the 3 posts that people have responded to" button too. #io9mastercontrol
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Grey_Area
10/22/09

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Dood! I cannot wait for GoofyCon!! #io9mastercontrol
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Dr Emilio Lizardo
10/22/09

@Grey_Area: I hear you're hosting an after-party there, Grey. #io9mastercontrol
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samarkand
10/22/09

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I am so incredibly confused. Going to #doctorwho (for instance) it's just all the comments from the last article on the subject. But that's not a forum, that's just a bunch of people's comments on an article. Which I could see just by, you know, going to read that article's comments. #io9mastercontrol
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gorehound
10/22/09

@samarkand: me too.guess i will figure it out in time #io9mastercontrol
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Motoki
10/22/09

@samarkand: @gorehound: Welcome to the future. We make things needlessly more complicated for you. The time you save on convenience you spend trying to figure things out.

Have a nice day. #io9mastercontrol
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Ruthless, If you let me
10/22/09

@Motoki: Check it out now. I started a seperate forum thread about the new TARDIS. I went to the box on the main page, changed #'calendar' to #'doctorwho' and a few minutes later, my comment/forum post went up.

#doctorwho
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Ruthless, If you let me
10/22/09

@samarkand: Hmmm. That is weird. I responded to your comment while in the #doctorwho "forum." Interesting that it doesn't pop into the post here, even though your comment is in the post.

Check out your hashtag again. I created a forum question re: the new TARDIS. I went to the box on the main page, changed #'calendar' to #'doctorwho' and a few minutes later, my comment/forum post went up.

I think that is how it is supposed to work. People can rant all they want about how the TARDIS should be red, not blue, or green, or purple, or whatever color, hashtag it #'TARDISshouldbered' and others that looks for it, can find it.

No one yet created a "forum" post about #doctorwho yet, so you wouldn't see anything other than comments on #doctorwho articles.
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Harrison_Bergeron
10/22/09

@samarkand: I am as well. I tried looking for a Starget Universe forum and I think I just ended up posting the word "universe" somewhere. #io9mastercontrol
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Adah
10/22/09

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Off topic, but dear God I hate Natalie Portman in that outfit. It captures all that was wrong about the Star Wars prequels. Dear Natalie Portman: you will never, never be as badass as Carrie Fisher. The costumer should not have tried to pretend you could compare. Now go apologize for Roman Polanski some more. #io9mastercontrol
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sicboi
10/22/09

@Adah: Wow she apologized for Polanski? I agree with you on the outfit though, it was just an excuse to show off some skin and curves albeit it was very little, that possibly on Polanski would in fact be the only one attracted in the 50+ age group. #io9mastercontrol
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omgwtflolbbqbye
10/22/09

@sicboi: I bet he was a big fan. #io9mastercontrol
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CSX321
10/22/09

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Yet again the "Show hidden comments" setting is not working. Sucks for us non-star people. #io9mastercontrol
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SuperTuna
10/22/09

@CSX321: Yeah - that's probably the most annoying thing from the new changes. *wishes on a star* Get it? Eh? *nudge* Eh? #io9mastercontrol
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Plague
10/22/09

@SuperTuna: None of the settings work. But don't worry, they'll take another shot at it again in a few weeks.
Oh, Consumerist layout, how I miss you. #io9mastercontrol
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Davio
10/22/09

@CSX321: I used to have a star. Then it went away and I don't know why... #io9mastercontrol
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Belabras ate my dingo!
10/22/09

@Plague:
Sometimes I go back to Consumerist just for a shot of the old format. #io9mastercontrol
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CSX321
10/22/09

@Davio: I did, too! I had one for about a month, then it went away for no reason I could discern. At the time I sent an e-mail to Gawker asking about it, but I never got a reply. #io9mastercontrol
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crashedpc - Haifisch
10/22/09

@Belabras ate my dingo!: Addict. #io9mastercontrol
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Belabras ate my dingo!
10/22/09

@crashedpc - unrein:
I can quit any time! #io9mastercontrol
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Plague
10/22/09

@Belabras ate my dingo!: Funny, I go there to actually READ it. #io9mastercontrol
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sicboi
10/22/09

@SuperTuna: yeah, i've tried that a few times being inventive with, "why am I being D9'd"... no one got it... i figure you gotta do the time maybe... but what's the time really? I spend an inordinate amount of my time (both work and leisure reading through the wonderful stories on io9 to be heartbroken that no one cares to read what i think :-( ) #io9mastercontrol
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Ruthless, If you let me
10/22/09

@sicboi: I spend inordinate amounts of time here too. As long as the post isn't too old, I get into each post to see what people (starred, greys, and reds) have to say multiple times. I think that the io9 Stars promote comments way more than Giz, Jalop, 'Spin, & Lifehacker. I frequent those sites at work too, and used to be able to bring greys into black type, but no more.

So in short: fear not, your stuff is read. I'd also check out Grey_Area's comment here: [io9.com] #io9mastercontrol
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cadrina
10/22/09

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"starred commenters can also create forums." While people like me that are on this site all the time are considered second class people. Have Io9 ever heard of equal rights? #io9mastercontrol
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Garrison Dean: R.O.A.C.H.
10/22/09

@cadrina: Quiet you. Know your place. #io9mastercontrol
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dirtybacon
10/22/09

@Garrison Dean: R.O.A.C.H.: We really have to work to beat the serfs back into submission, am I right!? #io9mastercontrol
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crashedpc - Haifisch
10/22/09

@Garrison Dean: R.O.A.C.H.: Shit, the Dean finally appeared. This means Things Are Serious. #io9mastercontrol
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cylon_conspiracy
10/22/09

@cadrina: I've found a way around this: it doesn't matter. My sense of worth isn't defined by some arbitrary star system. Most of the actual star members here read and respond to most of the non-star comments anyway.

So the system works fine as long as you don't worry about some elitist arbitrary rule that was designed to only make the rule-makers themselves happy. The people who actually USE this site, couldn't care less about some elitist star system thing. At least that's what I take from it.

As far as forums, I post on the internet enough. I actually prefer commenting on articles like this than just being a part of another random forum. #io9mastercontrol
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crashedpc - Haifisch
10/22/09

@cylon_conspiracy: tl; dr.

*slaps face with a white glove* #io9mastercontrol
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Grey_Area
10/22/09

@crashedpc - unrein: Somebody had to put their foot down.
And that foot was him! #io9mastercontrol
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Garrison Dean: R.O.A.C.H.
10/22/09

@cylon_conspiracy: Adorable. We'll see what happens once you get a star. Then you'll be all... EAT IT BRANSONS!!!

Oh and btw, I am now dubbing those without stars as Bransons because like Branson Missouri, they have no stars. #io9mastercontrol
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crashedpc - Haifisch
10/22/09

@Garrison Dean: R.O.A.C.H.: I'm glad to see that there ARE people in this world slightly more insane than I am. #io9mastercontrol
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cylon_conspiracy
10/22/09

@Garrison Dean: R.O.A.C.H.: I've been to Branson, saw the asian dude play the country fiddle when I was a kid. He was a star in my eyes, if only for a brief moment.

Anyway, the star system is lame.
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Garrison Dean: R.O.A.C.H.
10/22/09

@cylon_conspiracy: Ah haaaa! There's the vitriol I was looking for. I knew you had it in you! ;) #io9mastercontrol
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cylon_conspiracy
10/22/09

@Garrison Dean: R.O.A.C.H.: I have officially evolved past using that term in jest. #io9mastercontrol
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Motoki
10/22/09

@cylon_conspiracy: Because of your avatar I imagined Gaius Baltar giving that speech on the evils of elitism and the Adama, err, star system and it was kind of awesome. #io9mastercontrol
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cylon_conspiracy
10/22/09

@Motoki: Thanks for listening. All I ask is the right to be heard. Not just for me. But for what's left of humanity.
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Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
10/22/09

@Garrison Dean: R.O.A.C.H.: I love it when you're around.

You Bransons really ought to be happy. You don't have to see the crap that shows up in the pink zone. It's scary stuff -- I'm always relieved when it's merely trite or redundant. #io9mastercontrol
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gods-n-clods
10/22/09

@crashedpc - unrein: Where's the GIF for "Shit Just Got Real"?
/UnwareAboutForums #io9mastercontrol
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Grey_Area
10/22/09

@Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.: Oh please, try being the poor schmuck who auditions all that junk. Trolls, illiterates, spammers, sockpuppets, crackpots of every stripe. #io9mastercontrol
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LittleDragon
10/22/09

@crashedpc - unrein: I AM NOT INSANE I AM NOT INSANE....oh you weren't talking about me. #io9mastercontrol
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Motoki
10/22/09

@Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.: re: "You don't have to see the crap that shows up in the pink zone. It's scary stuff "

Whoah, my mind just went places with that quote. Not good places haha. #io9mastercontrol
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Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
10/22/09

@Grey_Area: Discriminate MOAR, dude. #io9mastercontrol
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Grey_Area
10/22/09

@Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.: Yah, I'm getting more particular.
Thing is, some commenters seem totally cool and have brilliant things to say. One is juuust about to starify them, but then *bang* and it's all, "Whaaaah, where's my star? Whhhaaaahh!!!"
Not the right way to get noticed. #io9mastercontrol
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CSX321
10/22/09

@Grey_Area: I don't mean to whinge, but the thing is that I *had* a star, and then lost it for no reason I could determine. I get no response at all when I ask about it, either here or at the "getsatisfaction" support site. It would be courteous for someone to at least acknowledge us who have been de-starred and let us know why. I realize it's not important in the larger scheme of things, but imagine how you would feel if tomorrow your star were gone? #io9mastercontrol
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Grey_Area
10/22/09

@CSX321: Here's your pancakes, bitches. #io9mastercontrol
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Davio
10/23/09

@Grey_Area: Sweet! Can I get some syrup with that?

Though seriously, cheers! #io9mastercontrol
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CSX321
10/23/09

@Grey_Area: Thank you! Now I can stop being angry and bitter at the world and kicking my dog. :) #io9mastercontrol
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Ruthless, If you let me
10/22/09

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Huzzah! I have been able to find what I posted previously. Which is to say, one thing so far: #fanservice
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Dash_Stryker
10/22/09

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#spacerape #io9mastercontrol
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crashedpc - Haifisch
10/22/09

@Dash_Stryker: Sometimes, I wonder if other starred commentors can, you know, delete forums as well. #io9mastercontrol
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Dash_Stryker
10/22/09

@crashedpc - unrein: What you don't think that some of the terrible things we do to space would be considered rape? #io9mastercontrol
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crashedpc - Haifisch
10/22/09

@Dash_Stryker: Oh, literal space rape. I thought you meant... oh. Uh. I. Er.

#spacerape
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Dash_Stryker
10/22/09

@crashedpc - unrein: Well I think the MOvie Humpty Dumpty would go under #spacerape but in the literal category of the forum. Can I make sub-forums? #io9mastercontrol
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crashedpc - Haifisch
10/22/09

@Dash_Stryker: I dunno; I don't work here, I just sneak into the employee breakroom for free coffee and danishes. #io9mastercontrol
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Ruthless, If you let me
10/22/09

@crashedpc - unrein: Danishes! Do they have cheese danishes??! #io9mastercontrol
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crashedpc - Haifisch
10/22/09

@Ruthless, If you let me: *paws through stacks of danishes* AH THINK THERE'S ONE OF THEM CHEEZ WHIZ DANISHES IN THE BACK OVER HEA #io9mastercontrol
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dirtybacon
10/22/09

@Dash_Stryker: I can't imagine how this forum creation thing would ever be abused.

That being said, i want an RSS feed to specific forums... I need to know what is going on in #spacerape at all times!!

#spacerape #io9mastercontrol
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Dash_Stryker
10/22/09

@dirtybacon: that's the nature of the internet DirtyB. If people want to abuse a gift that's their issue.
#spacerape #io9mastercontrol
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Ruthless, If you let me
10/22/09

@dirtybacon: When it was rolled out, Deadspin posted some of Denton's letter about it, and they (he?) expect some of the abuse. Here is some of it:

We have no idea what uses people will make of these forums. But we suspect that many of them will be mischievous. And that's fine — because we like mischief too.
[deadspin.com]
#forum
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Nick Denton
10/23/09

@Ruthless, If you let me: Yep, the only thing that was sure was that readers would find unexpected ways to use these forums. And they'd use unexpected hashtags.

The tag pages haven't been particularly friendly to comments the last few days. A lot of initial bugs. And it was a bit weird having the comments over on the right. But this page seems to work pretty well.

If you've any suggestions, let me know.

#spacerape
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Dash_Stryker
10/27/09

@Nick Denton: Nick, I appreciate your participation, but we like to try to keep on topic here at the #spacerape forum.

#spacerape
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BloggyMcBlogBlog
10/22/09

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Just created a forum to tell everbody that io9 rocks.

#io9rocks #io9mastercontrol
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Grey_Area
10/22/09

@BloggyMcBlogBlog: Igneous or sedimentary? #io9mastercontrol
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BloggyMcBlogBlog
10/22/09

@Grey_Area: Metamorphic! #io9mastercontrol
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Grey_Area
10/22/09

@BloggyMcBlogBlog: That rocks!! #io9mastercontrol
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Bongoes
10/22/09

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Why is Heroes always the example you use? Almost no one here likes it. #io9mastercontrol
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crashedpc - Haifisch
10/22/09

@Bongoes: It's one word and people can instantly recognize it, I'm guessing. #io9mastercontrol
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jollyrogue
10/22/09

@Bongoes: Except me.. i like it. Well.. only the 1st season and this current season.. but i still like it. #io9mastercontrol
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Chuck
10/22/09

@Bongoes: I like to hate on it. I mean good god -- I'm still watching Smellville, and it's sucked since back when dinosaurs roamed the Earth... #io9mastercontrol
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kagekiri
10/22/09

@Chuck: Yeah, the best part of watching Heroes and Smallville for me was mind-syncing with the terrible writers and perfectly predicting the next cliched line. #io9mastercontrol
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Chuck
10/22/09

@kagekiri: I also admit to having had a small wager on whether Clark would end up in bed with Lana or Lex first... #io9mastercontrol
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Roklimber
10/22/09

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How does one find pre-existing forums? It would be nice if there was a page that listed them all. #io9mastercontrol
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crashedpc - Haifisch
10/22/09

@Roklimber: Maybe you need to create a forum that is manually updated with forum listings. And then you can create a forum to notify people that you created a forum that has forum listings. And then... #io9mastercontrol
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Roklimber
10/22/09

@crashedpc - unrein: Stack overflow... :) #io9mastercontrol
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crashedpc - Haifisch
10/22/09

@Roklimber: Ctrl-C! Ctrl-C!

Yeah I haven't touched a programming language in years. #io9mastercontrol
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Roklimber
10/22/09

@crashedpc - unrein: Sorry... your pc has crashed. #io9mastercontrol
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crashedpc - Haifisch
10/22/09

@Roklimber: Shit, how could that possibly have happened to me. #io9mastercontrol
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Motoki
10/22/09

@Roklimber: I agree. There needs to be a way to browse what is already being talked about otherwise you just put something out there and hope that someone else puts something out there or checks the same exact tag you did.

Plus it's a pain in the butt when you have things that could be tagged multiple ways. Like is it #battlestargalactica #battlestar or #bsg?

You can of course tag all 3 but if you are looking for an exisiting conversation you have to check all three because you don't know which one someone else may have used (or if they thought up something else that you may not have!)

The idea, while hip and cool and Twitterish and all that is just not very practical. This is a prime example of if it ain't broke don't fix it and why reinvent the wheel.

For me, a lot of times what gets me talking in a forum is to see what other people have already written and to read and respond to it, but I am not going to do that if I have to do backflips to find some hidden forums buried somewhere.

I want to see at a glance what is currently the buzz and being talked about. #io9mastercontrol
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Roklimber
10/22/09

@Motoki: Exactly! I couldn't have said it better. I hope the powers to be are reading. #io9mastercontrol
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Roklimber
10/22/09

@crashedpc - unrein: 'cause you're running Windows 7 ? #io9mastercontrol
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LittleDragon
10/22/09

@Roklimber: I think I am fourthing this, but am not sure. Either way I am for a page that lists pre-existing forums. #io9mastercontrol
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crashedpc - Haifisch
10/22/09

@Roklimber: Haha! Not yet. Soon. My copy should arrive today. Then we'll see who's laughing!

If I don't show up for the next 24 hours you probably know what I'm doing. Cursing at my monitor. #io9mastercontrol
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Annalee Newitz
10/22/09

@Roklimber: If there's a post you like, look through the tags. Every tag is a forum. #io9mastercontrol
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Roklimber
10/22/09

@Annalee Newitz: I think you misunderstood my question. For example, suppose I want to look for a forum about defying gravity. There hasn't been a post about the show in a long while, so how would I know if there's a forum about it unless I apply a trial-and-error approach? That's not very practical. #io9mastercontrol
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Ruthless, If you let me
10/22/09

@Roklimber: The search box works moderately well. I searched "defyinggravity" and the 2nd story was actually tagged "#defyinggravity." Works even better when filtered by relevance.

I am sure we will have to experiment with it a bit. I excessively hashtagged what i sent into the #tips forum.

#excessivehashtags #io9mastercontrol
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Motoki
10/22/09

@Annalee Newitz: What if I don't KNOW what I want to look for until I see what is being talked about?

Maybe I just want to see what the current buzz on the forums is and what people are saying.

Talk creates its own momentum. Having to know specifically what I want to talk or read about and make a search for it prevents that momentum.

Sometimes I don't know what the hell I want to eat and just want to wander the food court until I see it. #io9mastercontrol #forum #forums
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Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
10/22/09

@Motoki: What you said. #io9mastercontrol
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Dunny0
10/22/09

@Annalee Newitz: But, like your example about GoofyCon - if I'm mentioning it to get people to come, then it's implied people don't know about it. So the only people who'd look for a GoofyCon forum are those that are already going, which pretty much negates even mentioning it to get more people to show up. #io9mastercontrol
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Chuck
10/22/09

@Motoki: I think we need both a tag discovery system (tag cloud maybe?) and a synonym dictionary, so redundant tags can be merged together...

I'm sure they'll get right on that.... #io9mastercontrol
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crashedpc - Haifisch
10/22/09

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Whee! I created a random musings forum!

[io9.com] #io9mastercontrol
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Lassus
10/16/09

In reply to It's The io9 Redesign - Now With More Commenter Powers!
I'm completely lost. Where are these forums?

Also, I'm sad that my io9 page has so many picture-less headlines. I love the pictures that accompany the posts, but now on the front page, ten out of eighteen posts have no picture. I can't imagine this really helps traffic for the site.

I want to embrace change, but this change is a a little more difficult than the last one to do so with. #redesign
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RexMaximus
10/15/09

In reply to It's The io9 Redesign - Now With More Commenter Powers!
The redesign's looking nice, but it looks like my star's gone on hiatus... #redesign
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RexMaximus
10/17/09

@RexMaximus: Thanks for the fix! #redesign
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