having checked the novel out of my local library (sorry to everyone looking for it in the alexandria public library system, i have the only copy) i've noticed that, given the due date, i'm likely to finish this novel with just enough time to forget it completely before the meeting. perfect.
@tetracycloide: Actually we've partnered with Borders's scifi blog Babel Clash for our book club. It's not a commercial relationship, though. We're just linking to each other.
Nothing personal, but I think I'll have to pass on this one. It sounds like a good book, but I'm tired of "coming-of-age" stories right now. Seems like a lot of books, movies and TV shows lately have been coming-of-age stories (Juno, Harry Potter, Twilight, Heroes to some extent, etc.).
@TemporalSword: twilight and heroes are coming-of-age stories? you could have fooled me, all the characters, adults included, seem as childish and self-centered at the end as they did at the beginning.
@TemporalSword: This book is a pretty unusual version of that sort of story. It is most emphatically NOT for kids. I mean, it's a coming-of-age story if you consider The Hobbit to be a coming-of-age story.
@Annalee Newitz: I really didn't consider this a coming of age story. I mean, it has that element, but it is much more complex. And it doesn't really fit into any of the stereotypes that people have tried to fit on it.
I loved it. And I was extremely skeptical going in.
I really loved Santa Olivia, the world, the heroine, the way she thought. It was incredibly compelling and I can't wait for the meeting to hear what others have to say about it...
God I hated Wanted. For many reasons, though the notion mentioned above about becoming a (nihilistic) ubermensch and subsequently treating everyone else like disposable meat bags for target practice bothered me the most.
And that last line: "What have you done?" Well, I haven’t dehumanized people around me to the point where I can kill scores of them for my own dubious ends and then imply I’m a hero for it. If that’s what you’re getting at.
@Supernatural_Canary: Yeah, the actual graphic novel had a much more sensible reason for the last line and the general dehumanization: rather than a "righteous" assassin, the main character is just a selfish supervillain whose power is killing people.
I've heard the authors did approve the storyline of the movie, so I guess it's their right to mess with the story, but leaving in that last line makes their "hero" still seem like a jerk-off villain.
@kagekiri: Hmmm… that’s interesting. I haven’t read the graphic novel, so it could very well be that the context of that line (and of the character, it appears) didn’t translate very well to the screen.
I could certainly live with the character being a villain, and now that you point out what he was like in the graphic novel, I wish that’s what they had done in the film. But the fact that the movie made it seem as though he was righteous in his actions repulsed me.
I watched Knowing maybe two months ago, and I must have blocked it to protect my memory of that crapfest, because I don't remember absolutely anything about the movie. Only telling my mom not to watch it under any circumstances.
@madara: Apparently I trusted my crap-blocking capabilities to do the trick, as they did. I'll take it into account the next time something makes me want to rip my eyes out
@Dirk Anger: EDIT: Whoops, wrong movie. Knowing is about how Nic Cage is enough of a genius to figure out Earth is going to be destroyed, just in time to do jack shit about it. Also, kids go to an alien planet and there are vague, shitty references to religion.
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@The Mikekearn of La Mancha: Ahh I remember now, and Nic stalks the mother of some other kid, they find numbers that are dates of disasters and numbers of deaths... now I remember everything. Damn you!
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If I haven't forgotten all about it by then.
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-Kle.
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Though I'm more partial to I Will Fear No Evil.
I need Naamah's Kiss though...
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just out of curiousity, why a lnk to borders and not some other bookseller (like amazon or B&N)?
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look at that, a nifty little logo right there. thank you, my curiosity has be satiated. for now...
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I loved it. And I was extremely skeptical going in.
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anyone know of a cheaper price?
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With any luck I'll have finished Hamilton's Night's Dawn trilogy by then; I think I'm nearly halfway done with only 'lebnty million pages to go...
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And that last line: "What have you done?" Well, I haven’t dehumanized people around me to the point where I can kill scores of them for my own dubious ends and then imply I’m a hero for it. If that’s what you’re getting at.
Fuck that movie.
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I've heard the authors did approve the storyline of the movie, so I guess it's their right to mess with the story, but leaving in that last line makes their "hero" still seem like a jerk-off villain.
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I could certainly live with the character being a villain, and now that you point out what he was like in the graphic novel, I wish that’s what they had done in the film. But the fact that the movie made it seem as though he was righteous in his actions repulsed me.
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