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San Diego Comic Con: Not Really For Girls?
San Francisco, 12:27 PM
Fri Dec 18
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Wow. That's a really brilliant marketing strategy for Comic-Con and the movies who desperately want our $ to succeed.
06/15/09
Almost as insulting as the "we think with our vaginas" attitude, is the fact this writer has no clue who geek girls crush on. Ladies, Wouldn't you rather go to SDCC to see Duncan Jones, Alan Tudyk, Franz Kranz, Zachary Quinto etc?
06/16/09
Not only does the author not understand who geek girls crush on, but he's apparently oblivious to the qualities that precipitate a crush.
06/15/09
06/15/09
(he looks awful as the prince of persia... prince of pomona more likely)
06/15/09
I'm "eagerly" awaiting the dissing of people of color or of religion from these bozos next.
06/15/09
Of course, women are ignored all the time, everywhere, but there's something particularly stinging about being written out of the future of civilization itself. I hate to paint such grand strokes about what sometimes is a wooden and cliche-ridden piece of popular art, but I will maintain until my dying day that the way we imagine things is sometimes equally as important as the way things actually are. Put differently: fantasy life matters because it tries to set out what we wish we were, instead of what we are. And the more wooden and idealistic, the more this fantasy is solely about our aspirations. And I guess some people don't find inclusiveness a necessary element of their utopian ideals.
It is a lot to ask, I know, of most of these geek men, this kind of recognition. Having always seen themselves reflected at the helm, encouraged from birth to steer themselves and their families because it is What Men Do, they hardly can tell what exclusion feels like. They like to tell us that they are not sexist, look at this TV series starring a woman oh and over there I totally gave her a PhD to make the point that women can have those too. Sexist is a dirty word these days, nobody wants to be one, and as soon as you bring it up you may be assured you will be be bombarded with self-defense. "Do you think all art has to be inclusive? Art is apolitical! It's just a TV show." And so on, and so on…
Count me as one of the people who is disappointed on more than purely representational grounds that there are still dudes out there who do not think that this kind of thing demands serious revision, remake or no remake. I'm not looking for a mirror in popular culture. I am looking for a place in your utopian ideals. I want women to be the kind of people we imagine steering the universe one day, not casually, not as accessories to wise men, not as that one seat on your guiding councils, not as background extras. In front, unquestioned, not your mothers or your sisters or your sacrificial lambs. Not wearing go-go boots or leather catsuits or any other kind of ridiculous uniform of the sexuality that seems to be the only thing you find noticeable in us. Just there, in whatever we felt like wearing that day and without some other reason to justify our presence. There because we belong - not just to your future, but to our own.
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06/15/09
They took one of the first great sci-fi women and made her nothing more than the main character's lust object and the second male lead's love interest and gave us no other female characters (except an Orion slave girl who's existence was to fuck Kirk.) and marketed the hell out of her to sell Burger King cups.
06/16/09
06/15/09
Keep your abs, Jake Gyllenhaal, and put a shirt on, 'cause I'd rather come for the comics.
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06/15/09
"Vampire-lovers have it all wrong. Werewolves can keep you warm, sympathize with your monthly curse..."
Bringing up a woman's PMS/period just never gets old, does it fellas?
06/15/09
Or, so I've heard. As a male geek, I only know about women what I've been able to glean from back issues of Gen 13.
They've all got big tits and are half lesbian, right?
06/15/09
Half lesbian?
06/15/09
I don't know how it works! I'm a geek!
06/15/09
06/16/09
Interestingly, bisexuality was impossible under old edition rules, since choosing a new class necessarily restricted access to your old class skills.
06/15/09
So, I'll blame the distributor and still see the movie, but remained pissed that alien movie = movie for guys.
06/15/09
I'm not in a forgiving mood until I hear a creative person denounce this crap. I didn't say apologize, b/c it's not their fault, but nevertheless it's tainted by this.
IGN at least tried to make their part of it better.
Maybe the best thing to do would be to watch it online and send a few bucks to the director and actors?
06/15/09
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Also, the movie's marketing plan has already failed for me. I keep calling it Session 9, as in, that interesting but ultimately forgettable horror starring David Caruso and the hot biker guy from Oz.
06/15/09
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06/15/09
The "guide for girls" is just pure clueless stupidity, but for the contest, I can't even fathom *why* they'd make it gender-specific. What possible logic could there be behind it? ... Well actually, I can probably imagine a few possibilities, and none of them would sound particularly good for the organizers...
06/15/09
06/15/09
The best part is, a marketers entire job is knowing their audience and how to market to them. So do you believe these marketers, and the LA Times, don't know their job, or that io9 is an isolated, currently butthurt aspect of a wider culture about which these people are actually spot on but have fallen afoul of the PC crowd.
06/15/09
Is PC an actual thing? Like a thing that people are expected to do? I don't think I've ever heard ANYONE say "Don't call them that, it's not PC. Don't say that, it's not PC, don't do that, it's not PC." I'm aware of no particular social pressure to pretend to be offended at rampant sexism for the sake of some arbitrary newspeak rules.
Is that what it is? Am I just missing something? Because it seems to me that PC gets thrown around a lot as though I'm somehow guilty of perpetuating it, and I've got to admit to not getting that.
Also, for the record, considering how many things are marketed incredible poorly, how many products lose money because of their bad marketing, and how many ad agencies lose and go out of business because of their failure to deliver, I don't think it's at all unreasonable to think that marketers often don't know how to do their own jobs.
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06/16/09
Or as cultured, or youthful.
Or as smart, handsome, talented...you get the idea.
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06/15/09
creepy.
06/15/09