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tetracycloide
11/25/09

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so what i was going for here was an approachable, feline femininity that every individual so inclined would want to engage in acts of a physical congress with.

so you were going for cat people sex?

yes.
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Hamslicer
11/25/09

@tetracycloide: ... and I like tails.
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Kaiser-Machead
11/24/09

In reply to Will This Clip Change The Way You Feel About Avatar?
Looks interesting, though I recognized that Tyrannosaur roar right off, but it doesn't seem to be heaped with piles of nuclear retardation like Transformers ROTF, which is good.
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Doug Nelson
11/24/09

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He spent too much time concentrating on capturing the actor, the scenery looks like it's straight out of Uncharted 2 (but I'll still rent Avatar, I liked Uncharted 2).
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Smeagol92055
11/24/09

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Holy fuck.
Okay, the uncanny valley has officially been crossed.
I can actually believe in that after seeing it.

Of course, it doesn't mean that the story isn't going to be crap, but I'll go and see it based on the VFX.
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LittleDragon
11/24/09

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I think some one needs some time with Hicks.

"Controlled Bursts"
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CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard)
11/24/09

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This just looks great. Yes its going to be like Marmite..either love it or hate it. But the technical skills behind this will be astounding. They've already hired the tech to Tron Legacy!

Personally, im a big fan of Cameron and I can kind of forgive True Lies (if only for the OTT wing walking scene). This will be fantastic, mesmerising and very enjoyable. Will I like it? Yes!! Will I care what the nay-sayers say? Balls no! Do I care enough to go mental and scream in forums about how much this will fail BEFORE ive even see the film.? Ahem* lets not be silly..of course not!

Lets give this film a chance.
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Yamato
11/24/09

@CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard): how can you not like True Lies its absolutely funny and entertaining. You know you can't get enough of Arny going "GIVE ME THE GODDAMN PAGE!!"
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CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard)
11/24/09

@Yamato: Nah!! I jest. True Lies was infact a very cool film for all the wrong reasons. Its a film that logic dictates I shouldnt like. But god-damn...I just cant help myself.

And Jamie Lee-Curtis is bloody hot HOT!!!

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Yamato
11/24/09

@CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard): lol i even played the SNES game, man it was fun but hard!
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Dr.Quatermass: I have to say Dr. You are once again spot on with that oberservation and anything I am about to say that contradicts this statement is strictly for humor sake.
11/24/09

In reply to Will This Clip Change The Way You Feel About Avatar?
You know what I love about Avatar? I'll tell you what I love about Avatar. Avatar is the new Blu-Ray. Techies and gadget-philes raved about it for a while but the mainstream public couldn't care less. Finally, when people started to get interested in it, they would watch a Blu-Ray video on television and complain that it looked no different. I repeat, the Blu-Ray commercials they saw on their regular television set looked no different.

Of course Avatar isn't wowing us the way it is supposed to right now, we are watching clips of it on a computer screen -- a 2-D computer screen.

Who cares if the story is extremely derivative. We are in the science fiction business people. Derivatives are our bread and butter.
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emerson999
11/24/09

@Dr.Quatermass: Who cares if the story is derivative, lets watch pretty graphics? I'll admit that a lot of scifi is derivative, but I like scifi despite that and feel it's a huge flaw. I watch scifi for those brief moments when it's not. Those that are 100%, like warehouse 13, I don't. It's also why I read more scifi than I watch, certain authors can be counted on to have more original ideas in their stories.
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Dr.Quatermass: I have to say Dr. You are once again spot on with that oberservation and anything I am about to say that contradicts this statement is strictly for humor sake.
11/24/09

@emerson999: We'll enjoy it. I'd put money on it.

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Jim El
11/24/09

@emerson999: Terminator 2 was derivative of its prequel---literally every main plot point and action scene was a bigger-scale mirror of its precedent---yet it still manages to wow audiences at home 18 years after its release.

T2 is still a perfect example of the beautiful synergy between kick-ass visuals and throat-kicking sci-fi mythology.

I believe Avatar will be the T2 of this generation. Top-notch effects, tried and tested archetypes, next-levelfilm-making. Cameron is the king and you know it.
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firstanointed
11/24/09

@Dr.Quatermass: I think a lot of the talk about how Avatar doesn't look as good as it could comes from the idea that it's a James Cameron production. If this film was being screened by some dark horse independent foreign nobody production company, we would all think that the Na'vi MUST be partially CGI'd actors wearing some kind of funky make-up because face it, even 2-D? You can see freaking FACIAL PORES. You can see FLESH TWITCH. The eyes look REAL. That's pretty freaky. Out of anyone else's studio and with less hype than we've been exposed to, the complaining would come after the film has been shown and not before. I truly believe if this film did not come with a heaping dose of James Cameron's massive ego,we could all come out and admit that what we've seen so far looks pretty good. I'm not into CGI and 3D or all that, but the new camera was worth it. There is a significant amount of fine detail that I've never seen outside of a digital matte painting and I'm not gonna deny that.
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Dr.Quatermass: I have to say Dr. You are once again spot on with that oberservation and anything I am about to say that contradicts this statement is strictly for humor sake.
11/24/09

@firstanointed: @Jim El: Here here.
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se7a7n7
11/24/09

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So this movie is basically a live-action Ferngully with guns.
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NerD: Blattella
11/24/09

In reply to Will This Clip Change The Way You Feel About Avatar?
I will see it.

I love the arguments I keep hearing on this site and others about this movie.

This movie will make bank. The question is: will it make New Moon money?

Oh, and all of you who are complaining about writing, and went to go see any Transformers movie can eat a big steaming bowl of STFU.
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Ghost_in_the_Machine
11/24/09

@NerD: Blattella: Well, since I didn't see either Transformer movie I can complain if the writing is lame. I'm not expecting Shakespeare but all these expensive effects should be in service of a decent story.
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NerD: Blattella
11/24/09

@Ghost_in_the_Machine: We'll see. I think that this movie will be worth the $15 it is going to cost me to see it.

I'm not expecting Shakespeare either. I'm expecting a lot of nice visuals and a moderate plot.
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RoboBagins
11/24/09

@NerD: Blattella: I saw both Transformers movies for three reasons:

- Optimus Prime
- Bay'splosions
- Giant Robots fighting

The story? Naw, not at all. But it didn't get in the way of my enjoyment of any of the three things mentioned (Ok, Megan Fox did, I don't need fanservice when two giant robots are gonna duke it out!).

What keeps me from wanting to see Avatar? Simple, it's Dances with Smurfs. It nags at me. I don't want to pay to see these scenes:
- where Joe main character(MC) starts to identify with the Smurfs.
- where some Military Brass starts yelling at Joe MC and tells him "It's us or them"
- where Joe MC tries to bring the Smurfs and humans together for a peace and it goes horribly wrong and the humans kill more smurfs, and wounds and possibly kills smurfette
- the inevitable final battle where Joe MC fights for smurfette.

Even if only half of those scenes appear in a mangled form, a voice in the back of my head will taunt me with "Dances with Smurfs, It's Dances with Smurfs, you paid to see Dances with Smurfs." endlessly while watching it.

Visuals can't make up that. All the great visuals didn't save Titantic from being an utter bore.

It doesn't matter how good the writing of the story is as long as it doesn't keep me from enjoying the rest of the movie.

And I hated the Smurfs.
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Dr.Quatermass: I have to say Dr. You are once again spot on with that oberservation and anything I am about to say that contradicts this statement is strictly for humor sake.
11/24/09

@RoboBagins: So what you're saying is...you didn't like Dances with Wolves?
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Tomb: R.O.A.C.H.
11/24/09

In reply to Will This Clip Change The Way You Feel About Avatar?
I have already seen this IN 3D! ..and is was pretty hard to follow along.
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KSChris
11/25/09

@Tomb: R.O.A.C.H.: How'd you manage that? I read reports a few days ago that the movie isn't even finished yet.. they're still working on some of the CG and textures and such.
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Tomb: R.O.A.C.H.
11/25/09

@KSChris: They showed this clip and a few more during the world wide preview screenings.
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KSChris
11/26/09

@Tomb: R.O.A.C.H.: Oh, ok.. I thought you meant you'd seen the entire movie already in 3D.
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TotalFanGirl
11/24/09

In reply to Will This Clip Change The Way You Feel About Avatar?
I think I want to see it less than ever, but I will still go if only to keep my geek cred. The whole scene was long and drawn out and still feels like they're trying so hard to impress that I think "Enough already! Story please?"

And as he was running with his tail flapping I kept wondering why he didn't tuck that tail in a bit so it wasn't like the cats in every cartoon that grab the mice by their tails. It also made me wonder how they get their pants on in the morning. I had a hard enough time getting my kids into clothes when they were babies. Can you imagine having to reach back and deal with an unmanageable tail every morning? So glad I'm not blue.
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Heriloke
11/24/09

@TotalFanGirl: ... I was expecting something like the huge blue cat with very pointy teeth would grab the ugly ovegrown blue mouse by the tail, but then I remembered it's a Cameron movie. The man is very serious about himself.

I can see interest in the tail, though. You could grab things while both your hands are already occupied. It's just another appendage - if it's prehensile.
Or maybe I'm just mistaking the Na'avi with Nighstalker from X-Men.
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TotalFanGirl
11/24/09

@Heriloke: But if it were prehensile and you were fleeing a giant beastie..wouldn't you move it out of the way instead of letting if flap around behind you to tease the giant blue beastie? Or at least use it to snap said beastie in the snout and delay it a millisecond?
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Ghost_in_the_Machine
11/24/09

@TotalFanGirl: Remember he's a man wearing a blue cat body. He didn't grow up with a tail and his brain isn't used to the extra body part. If he doesn't consciously think "I've got a tail I can use" it probably would be flapping around.
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TotalFanGirl
11/24/09

@Ghost_in_the_Machine: Okay, I will concede he's a man in a blue cat suit. But, he's not -just- a man he's a Marine so shouldn't he be thinking outside the box (or human body in this case)?
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Heriloke
11/24/09

@TotalFanGirl: I think I totally would.
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Ghost_in_the_Machine
11/24/09

@TotalFanGirl: When he's had more time in the body he might start thinking about his tail. I think he just forgets he has one. Maybe being around the natives and seeing them use their tails will help.

Besides, it's probably like using your non-dominant hand. It doesn't feel right, you don't do it naturally and it takes more attention to what you're doing.
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Dr.Quatermass: I have to say Dr. You are once again spot on with that oberservation and anything I am about to say that contradicts this statement is strictly for humor sake.
11/24/09

@Heriloke: Nightstalker? You're confusing the Na'avi with what sounds like a mutant alleyway rapist?
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Edited by Dr.Quatermass: I have to say Dr. You are once again spot on with that oberservation and anything I am about to say that contradicts this statement is strictly for humor sake. at 11/24/09 11:08 AM

thexpert
11/24/09

@Dr.Quatermass: Right, the x-men were his rape-gang.
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jbq
11/24/09

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Well, I'm definitely excited again, but I still can't see how this will appeal to the masses. Sure, us nerds and geeks, and maybe Johnny Everyteen, but the rest of them? Too hard to suspend disbelief for most, is my bet.

But hang on before you torch me, I really really really REALLY hope this film breaks all records and sets a new standard. Not because I think it'll necessarily be the best movie evahhhh, but imagine the possibilities if the masses, and by extension studios, accepted this stuff!
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goldfarb
11/24/09

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I've seen this in IMAX 3D - and it's stunning.
the compression in the file makes the colors look a bit flat...and I'm pretty sure some of the audio is temp...
but for a 100% CG sequence you're not going to find much better than this...
the water alone is out standing.
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braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.
11/24/09

In reply to Will This Clip Change The Way You Feel About Avatar?
Come on, man, how long does this scene go on?

A five-minute scene with an alien water-tentacle is one thing--no one had ever seen anything like that before.

He's really taking all this time to show off an incremental increase in CGI quality?

Also: isn't there supposed to be a movie in here somewhere?
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deacon001
11/24/09

@braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.: "Come on, man, how long does this scene go on?"
Uh... 2 and a half minutes. Hence, you know, the clip length of 2:30.
I mean c'mon, man, it's no Episode 1 pod race.
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Plague
11/24/09

@braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.: This is James Cameron. He makes movies solely to invent new toys that he can play with.
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Ghost_in_the_Machine
11/24/09

@braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.: I hear you, man. Pretty pictures shouldn't be more important than a decent story. I'm amazed how many people are saying they don't care about the story as long as it looks good.
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braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.
11/24/09

@deacon001: Yes. The question, in this case, was actually a rhetorical expression of exasperation, rather than a literal inquiry into the duration of the clip.

I can understand why you might have been confused, though! It was my fault, I apologize; I'll make sure to note it next time I plan on doing something like that.
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Nasdaf
11/24/09

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Its hard to tell if the CGI is annoyingly apparent in such a lo-def clip, whih can make CGI look more natural than it really seems in the frame b/c the overall quality of the image is downsampled equally.

Won't really know until the big screen. Which I don't mind going to shell out money for - if only to dethrone New Moon from it's #1 position.

And studios still whine that piracy is hurting their profits...
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