The concepts of mecha and moe can be traced back pretty directly to the Shinto belief system as a cultural norm- it would be nice to see that explored here.
@golddiggersof2033: While the idea of ghosts in shells is arguably Shinto, I'm reluctant to tie such modern things as mecha and moe back to the distant background hum of Japanese religion/spirituality. Mecha and cyborg fixation is very popular in the U.S. too, after all. As for moe, that (to me) ties in more directly to recent social developments such as Japan's low birth rate (idolization of the young) and the stress which it has placed on the Japanese family (such as the stereotypical spoiled, introverted boys raised in the '80s and '90s, for whom the domestic sphere of the house and home -- the realm of the saintlike cooking-and-cleaning child-mother characters so popular in moe -- is the most comfortable social sphere). But I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts. #comics
@Jason Thompson: I was thinking of mecha specifically and the idea that inanimate objects can inherently be anthopomorphized. To me that relates directly to the idea that every river has a spirit, every tree, every leaf, every rock. It's not that animism is specific to Japan but it lasted a hell of a lot longer there than in comparable civilizations.
I think it is specific to Japan though and to the modern social developments you mention that all the ghosts in these machines are pre-pubescent girls. #comics
@golddiggersof2033: Holy Crap!
I've just read this whole damn thing
and I get down here to find you invoking my name!
Am I some kind of demon that can be summoned at will?
Don't I even require a human sacrifice?
Something in the 'moe-thrown-into-a-volcano' line would do nicely in future :) #comics
@SJ_Edwards: I thought my last message was presentient enough to draw you here. That and the Lovecraft dagger through the crossroads at midnight seemed like enough. #comics
@golddiggersof2033: Good point, and you can definitely see a lot of references to 'spirit' and 'heart' in inanimate objects in everything from Yu-Gi-Oh! to mecha shows. Speaking of both spirituality and moe, did you hear about the mikoshi shrine float devoted to the anime "Lucky Star"? [www.japanprobe.com]#comics
@Shini: R.O.A.C.H.: Me too. I was just expecting a short fluff article when the title came up in my news feed but this was something really meaty and intriguing. Thanks for sharing! #comics
Nothing meaningful to add, mostly because I didn't know these manga existed 10 minutes ago (I'm a robot man, myself). However, nice article and well done. #comics
I hate to admit it out loud here, but I really want a window cling of that cranky Corsair. As a warbird fanatic, the aircraft moe is way cool to me and the Corsair happens to be my fave plane.
I bet you she's cranky cause she gets called "hose nose" alot. #comics
obviously, this is a topic a lot of people a) feel strongly about b) have put some thought into and c) would cheerfully discuss in detail until it came to blows...
I think io9 needs an anime-centric sibling. #manga
@bookwench: I would change b) to "the media has talked a lot about so it so a lot of people have a lot of material to repeat" (not specifically in this forum, but in general) #manga
@Dirk Anger: Well, censorship is an evergreen topic because it's always happening. (I mean self-censorship and little moral panics, of course, not actual governmental censorship of manga and anime -- at least not so far.) #manga
@Jason Thompson: It's just that not only there's no clear answer, but it's something our guts ask us to do, and our brains sometimes do and sometimes don't #manga
@Jason Thompson: There was that Texas CBLDF case about the dude who got arrested for selling porn targeting kids because he sold manga to an adult in a comic book store. If you don't get the logic, don't worry. There wasn't any. #manga
@bookwench: I know, my friend Carl and I actually wrote an appeal to people to donate to the CBLDF for him for anime news network. Too bad he plea bargained. #manga
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You know... it's us Spaniards who sleep la siesta, and Italians who eat red sauce with their pasta, not the other way around #comics
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Please weigh in SJ_Edwards! #comics
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I think it is specific to Japan though and to the modern social developments you mention that all the ghosts in these machines are pre-pubescent girls. #comics
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I've just read this whole damn thing
and I get down here to find you invoking my name!
Am I some kind of demon that can be summoned at will?
Don't I even require a human sacrifice?
Something in the 'moe-thrown-into-a-volcano' line would do nicely in future :) #comics
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I bet you she's cranky cause she gets called "hose nose" alot. #comics
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-Kle. #comics
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I think io9 needs an anime-centric sibling. #manga
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