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    Image of lukeoneil47 lukeoneil47
    11/04/09

    In reply to The Cluelessness Continues with "Jennifer's Body" DVD Cover
    Just got finished reading the post where everyone complains about the marketing for The Fourth Kind, now we're all mad at the marketing for this film too? These are commercials we're talking about here still, right? I know they do play a role in the way people consume media to an extent, but it really has nothing to do with the thing itself. The people who make the two -- the film etc and the marketing -- often have competing goals, don't interact, don't share the same artistic mindset etc. Since when did this become sci fi Adbusters over here? #jennifersbody
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    Image of Wookie1972 Wookie1972
    11/04/09

    In reply to The Cluelessness Continues with "Jennifer's Body" DVD Cover
    In any case, it's more than a little disgenuous to talk about how this movie was sold, considering that Io9 cheerfully played up the sexy aspects of the movie.

    The movies that have been surprise successes this year - District 9, Zombieland, Paranormal Activity, even Where The Wild Things Are - have one thing in common: pitch-perfect trailers. I agree that the material for jennifer's Body did not make me want to see it. But I don't know if selling it as Heathers with gore would have been any better. You can't make a cult movie on purpose, #jennifersbody
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    11/04/09

    @Wookie1972: You know, this movie SHOULD have appealed to women. It is, in part, a revenge fantasy. But I wasn't getting that from the advertising. It should have appealed the way Heathers appealed. #jennifersbody
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    11/05/09

    @tammygarrison: I guess my point about Heathers was that it's very, very difficult to promote a movie as a cult movie, if not impossible. #jennifersbody
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    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    11/04/09

    In reply to The Cluelessness Continues with "Jennifer's Body" DVD Cover
    Gwendoline and the Yik Yak -- haven't seen that in years! Ah, memories.

    Pretty sure I enjoyed it more than I'd like this movie, though. #jennifersbody
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    Image of Makidian Makidian
    11/04/09

    In reply to The Cluelessness Continues with "Jennifer's Body" DVD Cover
    If Megan Fox wasn't such a bad actress the movie would have been much better, but I would hardly call it smart. It was barely a horror movie, every time she killed a boy it would move away, the movie should have been PG-13 for not having nearly enough blood and guts. #jennifersbody
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    Image of Jes St.Lawrence Jes St.Lawrence
    11/04/09

    In reply to The Cluelessness Continues with "Jennifer's Body" DVD Cover
    "Seems like FOX is still riding the clueless train ..."

    Does the name of the day end in "y"? #jennifersbody
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    11/04/09

    In reply to The Cluelessness Continues with "Jennifer's Body" DVD Cover
    I'm sorry, but I call into question the entire concept of this and the previous article. It claimed that more women than men watch horror movies. Now, I have asked several women who are hardcore moviegoers in general and genre film fans in particular if they were going to see Paranormal Activity, a relatively mild (in terms of gore, anyway) horror movie. To a person they said they "don't like that kind of movie." I realize that this is an unscientific survey that I'm doing, but it seems to me that the female audience for horror movies is being greatly exagerrated here. #jennifersbody
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    Image of burlybax burlybax
    11/04/09

    @Wookie1972: I think the point was that the movie itself was more of a woman's tale.. Not necessarily that more women watch horror movies... #jennifersbody
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    Image of Shaftoe Shaftoe
    11/04/09

    @Wookie1972: I disagree my own anecdotal experience says otherwise #jennifersbody
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    Image of Wookie1972 Wookie1972
    11/04/09

    @burlybax: I was referring to the previous article ("did stupid marketing kill Jennifer's Body?"), and, actually, it said that very thing, It based it on statistics about five movies and some anecdotal evidence, and was not very convincing, IMHO. #jennifersbody
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    11/04/09

    @Wookie1972: I read the same article, and I think the facts about women and scary movies was being used to back up her point that the movie was aimed at women, and therefore poorly marketed. No offense, but I would take her statistics over the asked some friends method.. May be exaggerated, but still, I think her intentions were to point out that the movie is more relatable for women.. That was just my take.. #jennifersbody
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    Image of Annalee Newitz Annalee Newitz
    11/04/09

    @Wookie1972: The statistics I referenced were from an analysis of gender and actual box office receipts, which was reported in Entertainment Weekly (I provided a link to that article in my post). #jennifersbody
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    Image of Wookie1972 Wookie1972
    11/04/09

    @Annalee Newitz: Again, however, the article only cites three movies (The Grudge, The Ring 2, and Exorcism of Emily Rose) with female leads, and provides only anecdotal evidence about the others. It hardly warrants the idea that horror is a genre where the audeince is predominately female. #jennifersbody
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    11/04/09

    @burlybax: Quoth Annalee:

    "If the marketing droids at Fox had just been smart enough to realize that the movie was aimed at women - not unlike most horror movies"

    I still say that's questionable. And I freely admit that my own survey was unscientific. But the fact is that I've known more women to reject horror movies out of hand, and more men to be the first in line when the latest Saw comes out. (Heck, one girl who has a serious love of zombies said that she didn't like horror movies). I think the idea that somehow it's a no-brainer that horror is a genre with a mostly female audience is, well, pushing it. #jennifersbody
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    Image of Mann42 Mann42
    11/04/09

    @Wookie1972: I just want to say that when I ask my own female friends about horror movies, all but one love the genre, and two of them actually prefer the horror genre over any other.

    Does that mean my anecdotal, non-evidence based experiences nullify your own anecdotal, non-evidence based experiences?

    Horray for mindlessly "proving" your point by asking your friends as opposed to using statistical samples and surveys. I think I'll trust actual data over your anecdotal rantings. #jennifersbody
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    Wookie1972 promoted this comment Mann42 was starred Mann42 was unstarred
    Image of Wookie1972 Wookie1972
    11/04/09

    @Mann42: And again, I point out, the original article referred to a sample of exactly FOUR FILMS. Three of which had female leads (I dunno, does Jessica Biel count for Texas Chainsaw Massacre). The original article could not exactly be called statistically valid. In any case, the article was about how it was a surprise that women watch horror movies. It seems churlish to say "stupid marketers, everybody knows more women watch horror movies." #jennifersbody
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    11/04/09

    @Shaftoe: As it seems for a lot of people, which is why I admitted it was unscientific. My point was that the somehow common knowledge that more women watch horror movies seems to be... less than common.

    I'm not completely surprised if it's true. I work at a bookstore and the readership of true crime books is definitely more female. My point was that 1) the statistics quoted in the article seemed a little inconclusive and 2) in any case, it's hardly common knowledge. Maybe marketing people sh0uld know better, but i don't know for sure. #jennifersbody
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    Image of gorehound gorehound
    11/04/09

    In reply to The Cluelessness Continues with "Jennifer's Body" DVD Cover
    you forgot to mention the old staple of wacky scifi nakedness..............
    Flesh gordon #jennifersbody
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    Image of Dr Emilio Lizardo Dr Emilio Lizardo
    11/04/09

    In reply to The Cluelessness Continues with "Jennifer's Body" DVD Cover
    Perils of gwendolyn was awesome when I was a teenager. And I do believe this is the second time Tawny Kitaen has indirectly surfaced today. #jennifersbody
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    Image of John John
    11/05/09

    @Dr Emilio Lizardo: Same here. Parents didn't have a clue when they rented it, and then went bowling and left my brother and I to watch it. WOW. #jennifersbody
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    Image of AngriestGeek AngriestGeek
    11/04/09

    In reply to The Cluelessness Continues with "Jennifer's Body" DVD Cover
    It's called "Maybe we can still get those suckers with this marketing the way we didn't get them with theatrical marketing. See, the 'unrated' is going to make them think there's sex!"

    And I maintain it failed because it failed as a genre picture, not because of bad marketing. Teeth followed the genre rules better than this did. Not that a film budgeted at $16M that made $16M is that much of a failure.
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    Image of TemporalSword TemporalSword
    11/04/09

    In reply to The Cluelessness Continues with "Jennifer's Body" DVD Cover
    Fox. Clueless? No way! #jennifersbody
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    Image of Belabras ate my dingo! Belabras ate my dingo!
    11/04/09

    @TemporalSword:
    I too am shocked to discover gambling in this establishment. #jennifersbody
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    Image of geesejuggler geesejuggler
    11/04/09

    In reply to The Cluelessness Continues with "Jennifer's Body" DVD Cover
    "It's about how Megan Fox is a monster, not eye candy." Truer words are rarely spoken. #jennifersbody
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    Image of CmdrHunt (aka Clarence Colton) CmdrHunt (aka Clarence Colton)
    11/04/09

    @geesejuggler: I agree.

    And yet, I confess that I love that monster... #jennifersbody
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    Image of Dash_Stryker Dash_Stryker
    11/04/09

    In reply to The Cluelessness Continues with "Jennifer's Body" DVD Cover
    I'm pretty sure the fact that it was all concept and no substance is what killed the film. #jennifersbody
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    Image of AngryEddy AngryEddy
    11/04/09

    In reply to The Cluelessness Continues with "Jennifer's Body" DVD Cover
    Enthusiastic yawn! #jennifersbody
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    Image of crashedpc - Haifisch crashedpc - Haifisch
    11/04/09

    @AngryEddy: Vigorous snore! #jennifersbody
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    11/04/09

    In reply to The Cluelessness Continues with "Jennifer's Body" DVD Cover
    Yik Yak? Netflix'd!

    And with "Unrated" scrawled over Fox's belly, guys might think they'll get to see some unrated footage... which I highly doubt exists in the form that they wish it to be in.

    Was that sentence even grammatically sound?
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    Image of dirtybacon dirtybacon
    11/04/09

    @crashedpc - Haifisch: Gwendoline's tag line is: Barbarella meets Indiana Jones. SOLD! #jennifersbody
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    Image of CSX321 CSX321
    11/04/09

    @crashedpc - Haifisch: Churchill would have said, "...which I highly doubt exists in the form in which they wish it to be." #jennifersbody
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    Image of avoidz avoidz
    10/09/09

    In reply to Did Stupid Marketing Kill "Jennifer's Body"?
    A bad movie is a bad movie.
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