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People don't "get" authors? What, do people not go to school anymore? What is there not to get? Does going into a movie store erase all knowledge of other kinds of categorization?
And this talk of e-readers being a dead-end is bullshit, too. Spoken like someone who has never actually used an e-ink device.
The Nintendo DS store would be a neat idea... if that isn't exactly what Amazon was trying to do with the Kindle. Right now, the Kindle is an e-book device, but gadget conversion will eventually turn it into a device that will have other functions. When that happens, it will access the Amazon Store for other things in addition to e-books. It'll probably pull it off better than the DS, too.
@drdoombot: The refresh rate on e-ink is still way too slow, it bothers my eyes and takes too long. That flash where it goes entirely black is so annoying.
If I have a phone or DS, I can also do other things with it right now, for less than the cost of a Kindle.
@Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.: Eh. I've been using my Sony Reader for nearly two years now; I've read 25 books and countless articles on it. I've read 2-3 books on my Palm T/X and it was awful every time. There really is no comparison.
I horde paperbacks. Everyone I know that is a regular reader does too. I think it's more people than he thinks. *IF* e-books are going to work, they need to come up with one or two formats that I can read on any device I want (see: music and movies on my cell phone). But until they can make an reader that feels and acts like a paperback, it's not gonna work for me anyway.
@Raywind: hear ya. hard cover is so overpriced. only a handful of series are worth it.
our family's massive collection of boxed paperbacks make fantastic insulation to keep the heat out of our 3rd floor apt.
plus they can be lent at at will.
give me an ebook i can lend with the same ease & we'll be there.
@it must be bunnies: I think the point is that he wants to reach out to people who are not already his audience. He wants to reel in new readers, and create a market where one doesn't now exist.
@it must be bunnies: Well he works in a bookstore. I think what he's saying is that going into a bookstore is very different from going into a drugstore - in one place, you cater to a niche, but in another you cater to a broad audience of people who might not consider themselves book readers (and who would therefore be intimidated by a bookstore).
I read a LOT of books, all of them are e books which I read on a Windows 5 device The screen is small at 4 inches but I can read it comfortably. Why not a Kindle or some other E ink reader? Because they don't do anything else and they are in grey scale and too damn expensive.
If Asus comes out with their net book tablet for a good price, I'd buy that for a dollar
Damn--he's spot on about the Nintento DS. They're everywhere, and kids often buy all sorts of media related to their favourite video games. Plus, those things are easily modded--you can get your DS to behave like a PDA with the right software, so why not an E-book reader?
The only downside: the screens are tiny--I'm too used to reading whole pages of a book, I don't think I could constrain myself to the screens on the DS.
I'm really hoping for the best of both print and e-books: the print on demand kiosk. I went searching for the Metatropolis anthology recently, and it seems to be unavailable in Canada, so far. But if I could bypass the shipping, buy the e-book and send the file to a machine to print the book while I wait (or so I could pick it up in say half an hour)... well, somebody would have just made a sale.
@Anekanta: yup, i gotta concur with a lot of what he has to say. he completely nails the death of the MMPB, for one.
i like the notion of something like the DS as an ebook reader in principle, but as it currently stands, i don't think it's terribly viable. the screen is too small for one and for another, backlit screens are simply not gonna cut it in the long term.
but it does kinda point at where ebooks should go in the future -- multipurpose convergence devices.
personally, i don't really see the (current) kindle as the highway to the future, but simply a mechanism by which amazon can gin up support for ebooks to pave the way for the future. if that sort of formula holds true, expect the future kindle-type devices to get besot with featuritis (appstore, games, more robust mp3 playback, etc) and gradually evolve into something along the lines of a iphone/ipod touch (or we can just wait until spring and see what the apple tablet is like.)
right now, ebooks are a market waiting to be exploited, but i suspect if we get 2678 different ebook standards and competing devices, it'll quickly implode.
This is someone from the money group. This is how I want my e-books. I want a standard format that all devices from portable e-book devices to desktop computers support.
i want the right to resell my e-book purchase when I am done with it. I buy stuff, I don't buy the rights to stuff period. Being able to resell your ebook purchases will encourage a healthy used market in the industry that has been a proven market in the physical book industry for several hundred years.
I want a ebook reader, but I'm not willing to pay $400 for one, no way in hell. And quite frankly I don't want an author to have the right to take a book out of print where it can no longer be published. Once its put up for sale, then its for sale.
Ideally a tablet computer would make a great ebook reader and I intend to purchase a tablet computer when I find one that suits my personal needs. This is what I will be reading ebooks on, not little cellphone screens. if its not the size of a good hardback book then I don't really want it. I don't want 10 devices to do 10 different things, I want one device that does all 10 things and does them well at a reasonable price, ie less than $700
@JessieSnass: Amen! Used books are a great resource, esp. for the "disposable" (srsly?) MMPB.
Someone buys it full-price, they enjoy it, make a little money/trade with the used book store, the book store makes a little money selling it to me, I read it, sell it on, repeat... and the author both gets that first-sale money and exposure to people who wouldn't have paid full price.
Trade paper is my least-favorite format -- it's as big as hardback, but doesn't last as long. It's more expensive and takes up more space than MMPB, but isn't any higher quality.
It does suck that there aren't SF books in the grocery stores like when I was a kid, but trade paper isn't the answer to anything.
@Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.: I've found Amazon's used book service (where the books are sold by independent booksellers through Amazon's website) to be a huge boon, particularly for technical books. I can get an $80 technical book, which was obsolete for the person who bought it new, but is on a topic pertinent to my current project, for $20 or $30 dollars. Frequently they're barely used.
On the flip side, I haven't wised up to this when I get rid of my own obsolete technical books. Typically they end up being donated to the local library's used book sale. Of course, some enterprising person may ultimately resell them right back on Amazon. It's a form of recycling that works for me.
09/12/09
People don't "get" authors? What, do people not go to school anymore? What is there not to get? Does going into a movie store erase all knowledge of other kinds of categorization?
And this talk of e-readers being a dead-end is bullshit, too. Spoken like someone who has never actually used an e-ink device.
The Nintendo DS store would be a neat idea... if that isn't exactly what Amazon was trying to do with the Kindle. Right now, the Kindle is an e-book device, but gadget conversion will eventually turn it into a device that will have other functions. When that happens, it will access the Amazon Store for other things in addition to e-books. It'll probably pull it off better than the DS, too.
09/13/09
If I have a phone or DS, I can also do other things with it right now, for less than the cost of a Kindle.
09/13/09
09/11/09
09/11/09
09/12/09
our family's massive collection of boxed paperbacks make fantastic insulation to keep the heat out of our 3rd floor apt.
plus they can be lent at at will.
give me an ebook i can lend with the same ease & we'll be there.
09/11/09
Really? I think that he might be underestimating his audience.
09/11/09
09/11/09
09/11/09
If Asus comes out with their net book tablet for a good price, I'd buy that for a dollar
09/11/09
The only downside: the screens are tiny--I'm too used to reading whole pages of a book, I don't think I could constrain myself to the screens on the DS.
I'm really hoping for the best of both print and e-books: the print on demand kiosk. I went searching for the Metatropolis anthology recently, and it seems to be unavailable in Canada, so far. But if I could bypass the shipping, buy the e-book and send the file to a machine to print the book while I wait (or so I could pick it up in say half an hour)... well, somebody would have just made a sale.
09/11/09
i like the notion of something like the DS as an ebook reader in principle, but as it currently stands, i don't think it's terribly viable. the screen is too small for one and for another, backlit screens are simply not gonna cut it in the long term.
but it does kinda point at where ebooks should go in the future -- multipurpose convergence devices.
personally, i don't really see the (current) kindle as the highway to the future, but simply a mechanism by which amazon can gin up support for ebooks to pave the way for the future. if that sort of formula holds true, expect the future kindle-type devices to get besot with featuritis (appstore, games, more robust mp3 playback, etc) and gradually evolve into something along the lines of a iphone/ipod touch (or we can just wait until spring and see what the apple tablet is like.)
right now, ebooks are a market waiting to be exploited, but i suspect if we get 2678 different ebook standards and competing devices, it'll quickly implode.
09/11/09
This is someone from the money group. This is how I want my e-books. I want a standard format that all devices from portable e-book devices to desktop computers support.
i want the right to resell my e-book purchase when I am done with it. I buy stuff, I don't buy the rights to stuff period. Being able to resell your ebook purchases will encourage a healthy used market in the industry that has been a proven market in the physical book industry for several hundred years.
I want a ebook reader, but I'm not willing to pay $400 for one, no way in hell. And quite frankly I don't want an author to have the right to take a book out of print where it can no longer be published. Once its put up for sale, then its for sale.
Ideally a tablet computer would make a great ebook reader and I intend to purchase a tablet computer when I find one that suits my personal needs. This is what I will be reading ebooks on, not little cellphone screens. if its not the size of a good hardback book then I don't really want it. I don't want 10 devices to do 10 different things, I want one device that does all 10 things and does them well at a reasonable price, ie less than $700
09/11/09
Someone buys it full-price, they enjoy it, make a little money/trade with the used book store, the book store makes a little money selling it to me, I read it, sell it on, repeat... and the author both gets that first-sale money and exposure to people who wouldn't have paid full price.
Trade paper is my least-favorite format -- it's as big as hardback, but doesn't last as long. It's more expensive and takes up more space than MMPB, but isn't any higher quality.
It does suck that there aren't SF books in the grocery stores like when I was a kid, but trade paper isn't the answer to anything.
09/12/09
On the flip side, I haven't wised up to this when I get rid of my own obsolete technical books. Typically they end up being donated to the local library's used book sale. Of course, some enterprising person may ultimately resell them right back on Amazon. It's a form of recycling that works for me.
04/13/09
04/13/09
It's 90% video games, 8% dave matthews and 2% coldplay. Video games are 100% main stream already.