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Okay, maybe I just didn't eat enough at Thanksgiving, but has anyone checked out the cookies at GeekyCookies.com? They are so darn cool! They've got PacMan and Ghosts, Mario Mushrooms and Codex's Staff...I want some!!!
@ManchuCandidate: I now have to see that show. I hope they offer roasted turkey legs for everyone in the audience to much on and wave over their heads during the performance.
@ManchuCandidate: "You may be an undigested bit of targ, a blot of grapok sauce, a crumb of krada, a fragment of underdone gladst. There's more of bloodwine than of blood about you, whatever you are!"
Some of the original would follow. A Klingon that values money too much would definitely need a good kick in the pants.
I felt very badly for Spock Prime at the end of the movie. Knowing that his friends, or at least people that could be his friends again, we're going off to have the best time of their lives again while he couldn't be part of it must have been devastating.
I think this scene gets at that feeling a lot more than the original ending did. I like them both.
Having both Shatner and Nimoy would have been too much. I think they had to make a choice and they chose correctly. Spock was connected to the plot and Nero's needlessly complicated revenge, Kirk was not. The Shatner monologue would have seemed tacked on, especially the way it was written as a holographic projection. Spock Prime traveled back in time by accident, why would he have such a trinket with him?
At the same time, maybe they should have had Shatner record the scene so they could have cut down on some of the grousing from his corner. At least he could say that yes they filmed a scene with him but cut it for time.
@Hunter2458: I actually read the scene on TrekMovie.com which has more of it, including the description of Shatner-Kirk's words being delivered by a holographic Kirk emitted by a holo-emitter. [trekmovie.com]
We cut to Spock Prime who is having a mochachino in the spacedock STARBUCKS. He is suddenly overcome by a feeling that his old friend has returned. He watches the Enterprise roar out of spacedock.
By the end of the movie, I had more or less accepted the new people, so to be suddenly reminded of the original crew and continuity by a Shatner voice-over would have been jarring.
Now, having the crew assembly in the space dock with the Enterprise in the background--I would have like that better than the auditorium scene they actually had.
@cletar: Agreed. This would have been fan service, nothing more - would have felt jarring.
But I didn't like Nemoy's voice over at the end of the film either. It was time to hear Pine/Kirk say the words. I guess it was a passing of the torch from one series cast to the next.
Geesh, we've now had three passing of the torch moments in Star Trek films.
Star Trek VI - at the end Kirk corrects himself by saying, "...where no man, where no one has gone before" [a nice subtle, non-in-your-face passing of the torch to the next generation series].
Star Trek Generations - Well, the previous passing of the torch was too subtle. Let's be sure the audience gets it [rolls eyes].
Star Trek (2009) - Nimoy says the famous "Space, the final frontier" bit instead of Pine/Kirk to be sure original fans are happy.
@cletar: Yea, I think the iTunes extras has it (I don't have the DVD). Either that or it was on one of those behind the scenes videos that have floated around online just before the DVD release.
...I thought Pine's delivery was a bit flat. LOL, Shatner's from the original series sounds like he was so jazzed to say it. I think Pine could deliver something with the same amount of enthusiasm/energy (maybe they need to give him a few Red Bulls™ first).
The problem is that that watching the new movie, you realize that there's no way that new Kirk will grow up to be like old Kirk. I'm not sure what old Kirk's early career was like, but I don't think it involved breaking all the rules and still getting handed the keys to the newest ship in the fleet.
If the other cameo was Sarek, well, he was in the movie! He's Spock's dad, of course, so a younger, not very memorable version of him appears.
I really like that scene, but ending on the TOS theme was possibly all the tribute the film needed to go out on. The "torch passing" sequence would've been too much for a movie that seemed keen to stand on its own feet.
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Somewhere the whole theme of helping others in A Christmas Carol might be lost in a Klingon Translation.
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If I had the means, I would fly all the way from Los Angeles just to see this.
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Some of the original would follow. A Klingon that values money too much would definitely need a good kick in the pants.
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I think this scene gets at that feeling a lot more than the original ending did. I like them both.
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At the same time, maybe they should have had Shatner record the scene so they could have cut down on some of the grousing from his corner. At least he could say that yes they filmed a scene with him but cut it for time.
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FEDERATION COMMANDANT
Who are you?
SHATNER
It's me! Kirk. Give me the keys. We're going to the second to star to the right and straight on till morning.
FEDERATION COMMANDANT
You're not Kirk.
Shatner headbutts Tyler Perry.
SHATNER
I don't believe in the no-win scenario.
We cut to Chris Pine gagged and bound in a Starfleet bathroom making muffled noises. We again hear SABOTAGE and cut to the Enterprise warping away.
11/24/09
SPOCK PRIME
Close enough.
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SPOCK PRIME turns around, and we see his face. He has a goatee.
SPOCK PRIME laughs. Fade out.
11/24/09
Seriously, someone get these guys on the writing crew for the sequel.
11/24/09
Now, having the crew assembly in the space dock with the Enterprise in the background--I would have like that better than the auditorium scene they actually had.
11/24/09
But I didn't like Nemoy's voice over at the end of the film either. It was time to hear Pine/Kirk say the words. I guess it was a passing of the torch from one series cast to the next.
Geesh, we've now had three passing of the torch moments in Star Trek films.
Star Trek VI - at the end Kirk corrects himself by saying, "...where no man, where no one has gone before" [a nice subtle, non-in-your-face passing of the torch to the next generation series].
Star Trek Generations - Well, the previous passing of the torch was too subtle. Let's be sure the audience gets it [rolls eyes].
Star Trek (2009) - Nimoy says the famous "Space, the final frontier" bit instead of Pine/Kirk to be sure original fans are happy.
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11/24/09
...I thought Pine's delivery was a bit flat. LOL, Shatner's from the original series sounds like he was so jazzed to say it. I think Pine could deliver something with the same amount of enthusiasm/energy (maybe they need to give him a few Red Bulls™ first).
Hopefully in the next film we'll get that. :)
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I really like that scene, but ending on the TOS theme was possibly all the tribute the film needed to go out on. The "torch passing" sequence would've been too much for a movie that seemed keen to stand on its own feet.
11/24/09
I'm looking forward to when he starts punching the walls of reality.
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