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    Image of LittleDragon LittleDragon
    03:27 PM

    In reply to Celebrate The Holidays With Starfleet Cookies, A Klingon Christmas, And Abrams-Inspired Trek Novels
    I hope some one puts a recording on youtube.
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    Image of Dr Emilio Lizardo Dr Emilio Lizardo
    02:55 PM

    In reply to Celebrate The Holidays With Starfleet Cookies, A Klingon Christmas, And Abrams-Inspired Trek Novels
    Akron is dilithium rich? Ohio?
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    Image of ManchuCandidate ManchuCandidate
    02:52 PM

    In reply to Celebrate The Holidays With Starfleet Cookies, A Klingon Christmas, And Abrams-Inspired Trek Novels
    "May you die in battle with honor. May you die in battle with honor, everyone" cried Tiny Kla'pac as he waved his Bal'leth over his head.

    Somewhere the whole theme of helping others in A Christmas Carol might be lost in a Klingon Translation.
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    Image of RoboBagins RoboBagins
    03:03 PM

    @ManchuCandidate: I now have to see that show. I hope they offer roasted turkey legs for everyone in the audience to much on and wave over their heads during the performance.
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    Image of Bigdamnhero Bigdamnhero
    03:07 PM

    @ManchuCandidate: You deserve a second star for that.

    If I had the means, I would fly all the way from Los Angeles just to see this.
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    Image of LittleDragon LittleDragon
    03:26 PM

    @RoboBagins: Turkey legs and ale. No warrior would drink water. Prune juice for the under-aged.
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    Image of Hamslicer Hamslicer
    02:49 PM

    In reply to Celebrate The Holidays With Starfleet Cookies, A Klingon Christmas, And Abrams-Inspired Trek Novels
    Eat the red shirt first.
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    Image of gertymac gertymac
    11/24/09

    In reply to Read Kirk's Unseen Appearance in Star Trek For Yourself
    I felt very badly for Spock Prime at the end of the movie. Knowing that his friends, or at least people that could be his friends again, we're going off to have the best time of their lives again while he couldn't be part of it must have been devastating.

    I think this scene gets at that feeling a lot more than the original ending did. I like them both.
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    Moff promoted this comment gertymac was starred gertymac was unstarred
    Image of Moff Moff
    11/24/09

    @gertymac: Oh, fortunately, he's got pretty good emotional control.
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    Image of gertymac gertymac
    11/24/09

    @Moff: Good emotional control doesn't make him any less devastated.

    #tips
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    Image of Davio Davio
    11/24/09

    In reply to Read Kirk's Unseen Appearance in Star Trek For Yourself
    I would have liked that, it was honestly very well written. Would have been nice!
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    Image of Bill-Lee Bill-Lee
    11/24/09

    In reply to Read Kirk's Unseen Appearance in Star Trek For Yourself
    Having both Shatner and Nimoy would have been too much. I think they had to make a choice and they chose correctly. Spock was connected to the plot and Nero's needlessly complicated revenge, Kirk was not. The Shatner monologue would have seemed tacked on, especially the way it was written as a holographic projection. Spock Prime traveled back in time by accident, why would he have such a trinket with him?

    At the same time, maybe they should have had Shatner record the scene so they could have cut down on some of the grousing from his corner. At least he could say that yes they filmed a scene with him but cut it for time.
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    Image of Hunter2458 Hunter2458
    11/24/09

    @Bill-Lee: Actually, I think it's more of a memory from Spock Prime, missing his old friend.
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    Bill-Lee promoted this comment Hunter2458 was starred Hunter2458 was unstarred
    Image of Bill-Lee Bill-Lee
    11/24/09

    @Hunter2458: I actually read the scene on TrekMovie.com which has more of it, including the description of Shatner-Kirk's words being delivered by a holographic Kirk emitted by a holo-emitter. [trekmovie.com]

    #calendar
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    Image of Hunter2458 Hunter2458
    11/24/09

    @Bill-Lee: Ah, well that's just sorta silly, but if it were how I thought it was it probably would've worked really well.

    #tips
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    Image of Batmanuel Batmanuel
    11/24/09

    In reply to Read Kirk's Unseen Appearance in Star Trek For Yourself
    I love that they actually wrote Shatneresque pauses right into the script.
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    Image of twophrasebark twophrasebark
    11/24/09

    In reply to Read Kirk's Unseen Appearance in Star Trek For Yourself
    And we STOP ON WILLIAM SHATNER. Pretending to be Chris Pine. The new crew looks confused.

    FEDERATION COMMANDANT
    Who are you?

    SHATNER
    It's me! Kirk. Give me the keys. We're going to the second to star to the right and straight on till morning.

    FEDERATION COMMANDANT
    You're not Kirk.

    Shatner headbutts Tyler Perry.

    SHATNER
    I don't believe in the no-win scenario.

    We cut to Chris Pine gagged and bound in a Starfleet bathroom making muffled noises. We again hear SABOTAGE and cut to the Enterprise warping away.
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    Image of twophrasebark twophrasebark
    11/24/09

    We cut to Spock Prime who is having a mochachino in the spacedock STARBUCKS. He is suddenly overcome by a feeling that his old friend has returned. He watches the Enterprise roar out of spacedock.

    SPOCK PRIME
    Close enough.
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    Image of cletar cletar
    11/24/09

    @twophrasebark:

    SPOCK PRIME turns around, and we see his face. He has a goatee.

    SPOCK PRIME laughs. Fade out.
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    Image of Smeagol92055 Smeagol92055
    11/24/09

    @twophrasebark: @cletar: BRILLIANT! BOTH OF YOU!
    Seriously, someone get these guys on the writing crew for the sequel.
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    Image of cletar cletar
    11/24/09

    In reply to Read Kirk's Unseen Appearance in Star Trek For Yourself
    By the end of the movie, I had more or less accepted the new people, so to be suddenly reminded of the original crew and continuity by a Shatner voice-over would have been jarring.

    Now, having the crew assembly in the space dock with the Enterprise in the background--I would have like that better than the auditorium scene they actually had.
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    Image of Twisk Twisk
    11/24/09

    @cletar: Agreed. This would have been fan service, nothing more - would have felt jarring.

    But I didn't like Nemoy's voice over at the end of the film either. It was time to hear Pine/Kirk say the words. I guess it was a passing of the torch from one series cast to the next.

    Geesh, we've now had three passing of the torch moments in Star Trek films.

    Star Trek VI - at the end Kirk corrects himself by saying, "...where no man, where no one has gone before" [a nice subtle, non-in-your-face passing of the torch to the next generation series].

    Star Trek Generations - Well, the previous passing of the torch was too subtle. Let's be sure the audience gets it [rolls eyes].

    Star Trek (2009) - Nimoy says the famous "Space, the final frontier" bit instead of Pine/Kirk to be sure original fans are happy.
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    Image of cletar cletar
    11/24/09

    @Twisk: You can hear Pine read the Star Trek preamble or whatever that's called on the DVD extras.
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    Image of Twisk Twisk
    11/24/09

    @cletar: Yea, I think the iTunes extras has it (I don't have the DVD). Either that or it was on one of those behind the scenes videos that have floated around online just before the DVD release.

    ...I thought Pine's delivery was a bit flat. LOL, Shatner's from the original series sounds like he was so jazzed to say it. I think Pine could deliver something with the same amount of enthusiasm/energy (maybe they need to give him a few Red Bulls™ first).

    Hopefully in the next film we'll get that. :)
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    Image of Moff Moff
    11/24/09

    @Twisk: Nyeh, I choked up when Nimoy did the voice-over. It was brand-new, totally familiar, and appropriately ceremonial all at once.
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    Image of Gemi Gemi
    11/25/09

    @cletar: Are you talking about the gag reel? Because I think that was J.J. Abrams, not Pine.
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    cletar promoted this comment Gemi was starred Gemi was unstarred
    Image of cletar cletar
    11/25/09

    @Gemi: Oh. Well, hell. I've been lied to!
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    Image of daveNYC daveNYC
    11/24/09

    In reply to Read Kirk's Unseen Appearance in Star Trek For Yourself
    The problem is that that watching the new movie, you realize that there's no way that new Kirk will grow up to be like old Kirk. I'm not sure what old Kirk's early career was like, but I don't think it involved breaking all the rules and still getting handed the keys to the newest ship in the fleet.
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    Image of Sockatume Sockatume
    11/24/09

    In reply to Read Kirk's Unseen Appearance in Star Trek For Yourself
    If the other cameo was Sarek, well, he was in the movie! He's Spock's dad, of course, so a younger, not very memorable version of him appears.

    I really like that scene, but ending on the TOS theme was possibly all the tribute the film needed to go out on. The "torch passing" sequence would've been too much for a movie that seemed keen to stand on its own feet.
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    Image of OW-Holmes:Bringer of Fear OW-Holmes:Bringer of Fear
    11/24/09

    In reply to Read Kirk's Unseen Appearance in Star Trek For Yourself
    Spock-Prime?

    I'm looking forward to when he starts punching the walls of reality.
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    Image of bucklefilledbird bucklefilledbird
    11/24/09

    @OW-Holmes:Bringer of Fear: only DC does retcon that poorly
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    Image of disatess disatess
    11/24/09

    In reply to Read Kirk's Unseen Appearance in Star Trek For Yourself
    I quite liked it ... would been a much better ending .
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    Alasdair5000 promoted this comment disatess was starred disatess was unstarred
    Image of John Hazard John Hazard
    11/24/09

    In reply to Read Kirk's Unseen Appearance in Star Trek For Yourself
    It's not surprising that the earlier drafts of that stupid movie, with it's dreadful dialogue and contrived coincidences, would be even worse than the final script was.

    I wish this was in the movie so everyone else would have hated it, and not just me. I'm lonely.
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    goldfarb promoted this comment John Hazard was starred John Hazard was unstarred
    Image of goldfarb goldfarb
    11/24/09

    @John Hazard: I found it really entertaining, a lot of fun.

    but I DO NOT think about it AT ALL...the more I do the more problems I find and the more angry I get...the script is terrible...just. don't. think.
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    Image of RandomFrequentFlierDent RandomFrequentFlierDent
    11/24/09

    @goldfarb: That's my way of dealing with it too.

    It was a fun movie with lots of pretty explosions, pretty ships and pretty people. If I don't think about the plot, and I don't think of it as being "Star Trek" than I feel like my $10.99 was worth it.
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    Image of AngriestGeek AngriestGeek
    11/24/09

    @John Hazard: You are not alone. We are sadly, legion.
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