@Chip Overclock: I own 10 Robbies, 3 autographed photos of Altaira, the FP paperback book, and the Quaker Oats box with the enclosed coupon that got me into this film free in 1956. I have this film on VHS, LaserDisc, DVD, and anniversary DVD. I love this film. I also loved Babylon 5 and believe that if anyone can make a decent remake, JMS can do it. I'm optimistic.
@insightman: It isn't so much that I don't think JMS can do it justice. But I ponder what wonderful thing could be created if that imagination, energy, and money could be put into something new instead of revisiting something old.
@Chip Overclock: So when I said that the Day the Earth Stood Still remake was a tremendously sexy romp on par with Shakespeare's best comedies, that applies to the Forbidden Planet remake as well? Sweet! Now if I can only find the fandango.com website where ever it is on the internet, I can by my opening day midnight show tickets.
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Also, I don't think any movie (especially SF, comic book, or otherwise io9-worthy) gets made these days without the foregoing intention to bilk a franchise out of it.
I just watched this for the first time (I know, right) and I have to say Anne Francis was smoking hot in this movie. If this does get off the ground I hope they do it right and hopefully not use Dr. Emilio's cast because holy shit that movie would blow hot ass.
They recast Walter Pidgeon with Shia TheBeef, Anne Francis with Jessica Simpson and Leslie Nielsen with Will Ferrel (hey, they're both commedians!) It sucks rocks like The Day the Earth Stood Stuill and Hollywood is reminded that you just can't make money off SF. Yeah, that's about right.
I really don't care if they remake crap, it's just that they never do it well.
I really enjoyed B5 and Jeremiah and Crusade but knowing that he is now in Remake Films just makes me sad.Why of all films did they have to rape this one.This film is to scifi what Psycho is to Thriller.Sure JMS knows how to write and Hollywood has millions to make CGI effects but why don't they just go and die !!!
When will the youngsters growing up now ever learn of cool films when they are barraged by CGI and surround sound,etc.This film boasts the very first all-electronic soundtrack.This film had the best effects of its time.The writing was fun and we see Robbie the Robot.
I owned a Robbie The Robot to a a young child in the early 60's.I intend to boycoptt this film and never see it even if others enjoy it I will still not support his REMAKE.
JMS should be doing original films and original TV.He is good and can do it.Hollywood sucks.I won't even buy new movies now because of all the lobbying that greedbag industry is doing against freedom on the Internet.
I reallly hope that this and all reboots/remakes are fails so maybe they might finally go away.
@MonkeyT: huh? Forbidden planet is based on the Tempest so it's pretty much original source all the way.
It could be good I'll hold off the slagging until we know ALOT more.
@Wheema: Sarcasm labels make me sad: I don't take on extra labor for those people who can't get a joke without footnotes to help them.
I'm not slagging Forbidden Planet. It's a masterpiece, as is The Tempest. I'm slagging JMS (who has a much higher opinion of his work than I do) and anyone who would dare ride the coattails what has long been considered a perfectly executed sci-fi classic. There is no need for this project. They should be doing their own damn work instead of playing it safe by coasting on the reputation of somebody else's success.
@MonkeyT: sarcasm doesn't really work in text dude, and it would be more obvious if you had your facts right.
I do however agree that it would be nice for them to not always do remakes, but this one is a fertile ground for extending which could be interesting. If writers didn't bother with a story that had already been told we wouldn't have utter classics like "The Thing". Just because it's popular to slag off Hollywood for just doing remakes, at least this one doesn't have Keanu. I agree that JMS has an overinflated opinion of his own work, but he's not totally without talent.
If you're not passionate enough about what you're writing, you'll be writing crap, and won't get published.
On the other hand, if you're really passionate about what you're writing, you won't easily edit your work or allow others to edit your work, and you won't get published.
The really successful writers are those who have found the right balance between those two opposing forces, the middle ground that lets them get published.
Of course, identifying the extremes doesn't much help one find the middle ground, which is why JMS's advice isn't really all that helpful to aspiring writers.
@Roklimber:
"Straczynski noted that, while it can be frustrating to deal with those who simply want to place all stories inside the same box, there are really only two options: swim with the tide or against it. The best thing you can do is make all the changes you find unimportant while being prepared to stand up for those parts that really are too important to you to change. This give-and-take, while far from perfect, at least allows a more realistic chance of maintaining some measure of creative control."
the problem is that many JMS fans are the worst of the worst "I live in my basement and my sole human interaction is writing computer code over the internet" fanboys....so their "passions" tend to be...computer programming; I've literally seen some Babylon5 fans who had it pretty bad, writing "scifi short stories" in which the heroes were geeky computer programmers hired by the government to hunt terrorists.
Sorry to criticize their..."choice of lifestyle", but that's just lionizing being a computer-addict with little human interaction.
Then again, most of JMS' works tend to have long-winded pontificating speeches on the nature of truth, justice, etc. (his love relationship writing was particularly of the "written by and for Aspies who have no concept of human interaction beyond a comic-book level" lacking all nuance variety.
Watch "In the Perkining" that was a pretty good criticisim
Pretty good advice especially the part of editing. Too many writers go along the lines of "Each Sperm/word is sacred" when it comes to their work. It hurts, I know all too well when I tore apart an 800 page manuscript into 530 pages.
@ManchuCandidate: But it is so damn essential to get someone to edit your work, if not for content, then clarity. It's one thing to edit your own baby, it's another to chop down your buddy's baby, wildly hacking at their prose and monologues they jammed into the story. Hurt feelin's.
@gods-n-clods:
Preach it. My sister (another failed writer) did a lot of the outsider editing. Mix in familial ties... Lots of yelling and swearing, but it got done.
Yes, let's take the script away from a genius and give it to a hack.
By the time this comes out (if it ever does), even the general public is going to be totally over zombies and no one but a few die-hards (har!) will be watching.
From everything read on the script review, MJS script was supposedly a 'godsend' to the zombie movie genre with huge sweeping battle scenes and some 'awe inspiring' shots of zombie destruction.
As one guy I knew said. "Think Lord of the Rings big battles scenes but now put in zombies ripping crowds to pieces as they try to get on sinking rusted hulks to escape."
Another great scene was supposedly the protagonist in the middle of the Great Panic stuck on a freeway with his wife and child. He looks in his rear view mirror to see a wave of zombies literally engulfing every car behind him as it rolls toward where he is. If that idea doesn't cause the ass to clench in terror, I don't know what would.
Maybe MJS went too big in the industry eyes and now they are getting a second writer to tone down. If so, they are doing the supposed epic script a great disservice. MJS is the one person who I believe could put together a masterpiece for WWZ.
@Heath Doolin: Yeah, this saddens me greatly. JMS's script was apparently a thing of beauty, and the man knows how to rock thought-provoking sci-fi. As usual I think the execs couldn't appreciate what he was presenting or didn't want to pony up the cash for it.
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Also, I don't think any movie (especially SF, comic book, or otherwise io9-worthy) gets made these days without the foregoing intention to bilk a franchise out of it.
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So where is this going? let me guess...
They recast Walter Pidgeon with Shia TheBeef, Anne Francis with Jessica Simpson and Leslie Nielsen with Will Ferrel (hey, they're both commedians!) It sucks rocks like The Day the Earth Stood Stuill and Hollywood is reminded that you just can't make money off SF. Yeah, that's about right.
I really don't care if they remake crap, it's just that they never do it well.
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When will the youngsters growing up now ever learn of cool films when they are barraged by CGI and surround sound,etc.This film boasts the very first all-electronic soundtrack.This film had the best effects of its time.The writing was fun and we see Robbie the Robot.
I owned a Robbie The Robot to a a young child in the early 60's.I intend to boycoptt this film and never see it even if others enjoy it I will still not support his REMAKE.
JMS should be doing original films and original TV.He is good and can do it.Hollywood sucks.I won't even buy new movies now because of all the lobbying that greedbag industry is doing against freedom on the Internet.
I reallly hope that this and all reboots/remakes are fails so maybe they might finally go away.
Poor Poor Remake JMS must need a paycheck.
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Forbidden Captain Planet!
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As much as I dislike most remakes, I'll give JMS credit for going to the original source material.
Oh, and please cast Leslie Neilsen.
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It could be good I'll hold off the slagging until we know ALOT more.
BTW Tempest is actually a play...
03:53 PM
I'm not slagging Forbidden Planet. It's a masterpiece, as is The Tempest. I'm slagging JMS (who has a much higher opinion of his work than I do) and anyone who would dare ride the coattails what has long been considered a perfectly executed sci-fi classic. There is no need for this project. They should be doing their own damn work instead of playing it safe by coasting on the reputation of somebody else's success.
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I do however agree that it would be nice for them to not always do remakes, but this one is a fertile ground for extending which could be interesting. If writers didn't bother with a story that had already been told we wouldn't have utter classics like "The Thing". Just because it's popular to slag off Hollywood for just doing remakes, at least this one doesn't have Keanu. I agree that JMS has an overinflated opinion of his own work, but he's not totally without talent.
07/24/09
If you're not passionate enough about what you're writing, you'll be writing crap, and won't get published.
On the other hand, if you're really passionate about what you're writing, you won't easily edit your work or allow others to edit your work, and you won't get published.
The really successful writers are those who have found the right balance between those two opposing forces, the middle ground that lets them get published.
Of course, identifying the extremes doesn't much help one find the middle ground, which is why JMS's advice isn't really all that helpful to aspiring writers.
07/27/09
"Straczynski noted that, while it can be frustrating to deal with those who simply want to place all stories inside the same box, there are really only two options: swim with the tide or against it. The best thing you can do is make all the changes you find unimportant while being prepared to stand up for those parts that really are too important to you to change. This give-and-take, while far from perfect, at least allows a more realistic chance of maintaining some measure of creative control."
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07/24/09
"Stay true to your vision, unless it's getting in the way of making a sale."
07/24/09
Sorry to criticize their..."choice of lifestyle", but that's just lionizing being a computer-addict with little human interaction.
Then again, most of JMS' works tend to have long-winded pontificating speeches on the nature of truth, justice, etc. (his love relationship writing was particularly of the "written by and for Aspies who have no concept of human interaction beyond a comic-book level" lacking all nuance variety.
Watch "In the Perkining" that was a pretty good criticisim
07/24/09
Um, way to disprove your own "thesis" in one stunning and ironically long winded comment.
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07/24/09
Preach it. My sister (another failed writer) did a lot of the outsider editing. Mix in familial ties... Lots of yelling and swearing, but it got done.
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07/17/09
Yes, let's take the script away from a genius and give it to a hack.
By the time this comes out (if it ever does), even the general public is going to be totally over zombies and no one but a few die-hards (har!) will be watching.
07/17/09
As one guy I knew said. "Think Lord of the Rings big battles scenes but now put in zombies ripping crowds to pieces as they try to get on sinking rusted hulks to escape."
Another great scene was supposedly the protagonist in the middle of the Great Panic stuck on a freeway with his wife and child. He looks in his rear view mirror to see a wave of zombies literally engulfing every car behind him as it rolls toward where he is. If that idea doesn't cause the ass to clench in terror, I don't know what would.
Maybe MJS went too big in the industry eyes and now they are getting a second writer to tone down. If so, they are doing the supposed epic script a great disservice. MJS is the one person who I believe could put together a masterpiece for WWZ.
07/17/09
Guy's the spiritual ancestor of Joss Whedon.
07/17/09