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    How Viggo Survived Cannibals, Starvation And Life On The Road

    What Cormac McCarthy Insisted On Keeping In The Road Movie

    The Road Trailer Plays Like Terrible Roland Emmerich Thrill Ride

    First Official Review Of The Road Calls It The Most Important Movie Of The Year
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    Image of gorehound gorehound
    11/24/09

    In reply to How Viggo Survived Cannibals, Starvation And Life On The Road
    i am just glad there is a new movie for scifi that is not a remake/reboot
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    Image of Dirk Anger Dirk Anger
    11/24/09

    In reply to How Viggo Survived Cannibals, Starvation And Life On The Road
    Are those spoilers also spoilers for those who have read the novel?
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    Image of RandomFrequentFlierDent RandomFrequentFlierDent
    11/24/09

    In reply to How Viggo Survived Cannibals, Starvation And Life On The Road
    I'm so excited! The Road is the kind of book where I won't mind if they make changes in adapting it to a movie.

    I pretty sure that it wasn't a nuclear disaster in the book, but I'm still going to spend a lot of the movie worrying about their exposure to radiations (No! Don't drink that! It's +10 rads/sec). I blame Fallout 3.
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    Image of Traveshamockery Traveshamockery
    11/24/09

    @RandomFrequentFlierDent: What else could it have been? Massive earthquake? Worldwide meteor shower?
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    RandomFrequentFlierDent promoted this comment Edited by Traveshamockery at 11/24/09 1:33 PM Traveshamockery was starred Traveshamockery was unstarred
    Image of RandomFrequentFlierDent RandomFrequentFlierDent
    11/24/09

    @Traveshamockery: It doesn't really specify in the book. I've always assumed multiple meteor impacts worldwide. It's the explanation that makes the most sense given the available information.
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    Image of Dirk Anger Dirk Anger
    11/24/09

    @RandomFrequentFlierDent: Why do you think it wasn't nuclear in the book? It doesn't specify it, but it seems clearly a nuclear-winter scenario (yeah, meteorites would do that as well), and well... they wouldn't talk about radiation because there's nothing they can do about it. Also, It doesn't need to be radioactive everywhere for there to be a nuclear winter, just several big explosions that release enough dust
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    Image of WLDaywalker WLDaywalker
    11/24/09

    @Dirk Anger: While reading the book I went back and forth between a nuclean conflict and massive volcanism. On the one hand you had the flashback of the power going out/glow on the horizon, which led me to think of a nuke stike/EMP. On the other, you have the idea that this unnamed cataclysm has wiped out civilization on the entire planet, with massive amounts of ash still blocking the sun and coating things years later.
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    Image of RandomFrequentFlierDent RandomFrequentFlierDent
    11/24/09

    @WLDaywalker: @Dirk Anger: The glow on the horizon is what made me think it wasn't nuclear - if they were close enough to see a nuclear strike of that size I figured they'd be pretty nuked. That's why I assumed meteor. Super volcano makes sense too.

    I guess my reading of it just gave me more of a "man destroyed by nature" vibe. McCarthy's never said what it was - I think we're supposed to be debating it.

    You win this time Cormac.
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    Edited by RandomFrequentFlierDent at 11/24/09 9:14 PM RandomFrequentFlierDent was starred RandomFrequentFlierDent was unstarred
    Image of cletar cletar
    11/24/09

    In reply to How Viggo Survived Cannibals, Starvation And Life On The Road
    The trailer kind of makes me weepy, so I'm not sure I could go see the entire thing.

    I never read the book, by the way. Should I? Should I read the book then see the movie, or vice versa?
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    Image of NerD: Blattella NerD: Blattella
    11/24/09

    @cletar: It's a good book, it's not great.
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    Image of RandomFrequentFlierDent RandomFrequentFlierDent
    11/24/09

    @cletar: I'd recommend it. It's a nice story and a fast read. If you like post-apocalypse settings (admittedly I'm a huge fan of the genre) you should enjoy it.
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    Image of tonilost tonilost
    11/24/09

    In reply to How Viggo Survived Cannibals, Starvation And Life On The Road
    Viggo can do no wrong in my eyes. He could have gone Hollywood after LOTR, he turned down scripts and continued on his own path instead.
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    Image of Driadon, A Post Nuclear Role Playing Commenter Driadon, A Post Nuclear Role Playing Commenter
    11/24/09

    @tonilost: After seeing a preview screening last night I can definitely say this is true. The acting in this, on all fronts, is astounding. To top it off, the script is a great adaptation of the novel, keeping the true feel of the source material and adding just a little more for that emotional impact.

    Great film, go see it.
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    cletar promoted this comment Driadon, A Post Nuclear Role Playing Commenter was starred Driadon, A Post Nuclear Role Playing Commenter was unstarred
    Image of tonilost tonilost
    11/24/09

    @Driadon: Clone number 5481: I will, and I'm bringing the kleenex along.
    [spin.com]
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    Image of RandomFrequentFlierDent RandomFrequentFlierDent
    11/24/09

    @tonilost: I'm constantly impressed by how much work he puts into his characters. His acting is obviously more than just a way to make money. I have to say that I really respect him, which isn't something that can be said about many actors.
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    Image of d_r_e d_r_e
    11/24/09

    @RandomFrequentFlierDent: Indeed! Viggo really gets into his roles, and you've got to respect that!
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    Edited by d_r_e at 11/24/09 12:04 PM d_r_e was starred d_r_e was unstarred
    Image of OW-Holmes:Bringer of Fear OW-Holmes:Bringer of Fear
    11/24/09

    @d_r_e: His devil was the most memorable part of The Prophecy.
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    Image of Dunny0 Dunny0
    11/24/09

    In reply to How Viggo Survived Cannibals, Starvation And Life On The Road
    Is the spoiler that it was really Earth the whole time?
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    Image of cletar cletar
    11/24/09

    @Dunny0:
    Omigod, I was wrong!
    It was earth, all along!
    Oh, you finally made a monkey...
    out of MEEEEEE!
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    Image of ragincajun67 ragincajun67
    11/24/09

    @cletar:
    "I hate them all,
    from Chimpan A
    to Chimpan Z!"
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    NerD: Blattella promoted this comment ragincajun67 was starred ragincajun67 was unstarred
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    11/24/09

    @cletar: I LOVE LEGITIMATE THEATER!!!!
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    Image of allium allium
    11/24/09

    @NerD: Blattella: That's "theyaytur".
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    Image of PostMarque PostMarque
    11/20/09

    In reply to What Cormac McCarthy Insisted On Keeping In The Road Movie
    i wish i could find 4 lines to write that would completely change the tone of everything.
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    Image of Dirk Anger Dirk Anger
    11/19/09

    In reply to What Cormac McCarthy Insisted On Keeping In The Road Movie
    Wanna bet the kiddy sex slaves are gone?
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    Image of topdolla825 topdolla825
    11/20/09

    @Dirk Anger: read the book a year ago, where did U read anything about kiddy sex slaves?? Maybe only in your wishlist
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    Dirk Anger promoted this comment topdolla825 was starred topdolla825 was unstarred
    Image of Starwatcher Starwatcher
    11/20/09

    @Dirk Anger: Um, yeah, wrong post-apocalypse novel.
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    Image of Dirk Anger Dirk Anger
    11/20/09

    @Starwatcher: The Road by Cormac McCarthy. Maybe it was a translation error because I got a translation, but they saw somebody who had several kids chained, and they were referred to as a weird word I had to look in a dictionary which said it which meant that.

    #calendar
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    Image of Dirk Anger Dirk Anger
    11/20/09

    @Starwatcher: @topdolla825:
    no translation error:
    "slaves in harness and piled with goods of war and after that the women, perhaps a dozen in number, some of them pregnant, and lastly a supplementary consort of catamites illclothed against the cold and fitted in dogcollars and yoked each to each. All passed on. They lay listening."

    "A catamite is the younger, passive (anal recipient) partner in a pederastic relationship between a man and a boy, which was a popular arrangement in many areas of the ancient world."

    #calendar
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    Image of Dirk Anger Dirk Anger
    11/20/09

    @topdolla825: A catamite is the younger, passive (anal recipient) partner in a pederastic relationship between a man and a boy, which was a popular arrangement in many areas of the ancient world.

    I read it in a dictionary
    #calendar
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    Image of Starwatcher Starwatcher
    11/20/09

    @Dirk Anger: Ah, okay. Yeah, I know what a catamite is but somehow that escaped me. Well, I stand corrected. But I don't think it'll be a problem on screen--even if they depict the kids in chains the idea that they might be sex slaves will probably escape most people.
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    Image of skippy skippy
    11/18/09

    In reply to What Cormac McCarthy Insisted On Keeping In The Road Movie
    i don't know, based on the director, this looks like "no country for children of men" to me.
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    Image of Dr Emilio Lizardo Dr Emilio Lizardo
    11/18/09

    @skippy: You say that like it's a bad thing.
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    Image of Arvedui Arvedui
    11/18/09

    In reply to What Cormac McCarthy Insisted On Keeping In The Road Movie
    Out of the cannibal scenes, the one thing I really, really hope they have in the movie is the cellar full of humans. Does anyone know if it's been revealed that the scene was taken out or is it still in?
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    tande04 promoted this comment Arvedui was starred Arvedui was unstarred
    Image of tande04 tande04
    11/18/09

    @Arvedui: I know it was shot. I have a hard time believing they would take it out. As gripping as the book is the cellar scene is certainly a centerpiece. I'd imagine for a movie it would be even more so.
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    Image of Cenobite Cenobite
    11/18/09

    @Arvedui: Yes. It's in. The BBQ scene is out. If you read the book... you know what I'm talking about.
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    Image of 5AMfrenchtoast 5AMfrenchtoast
    11/18/09

    @Arvedui: It's totally in. You can see a flash of it in one of the trailers.
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    Image of Adah Adah
    11/19/09

    @Cenobite: Man, I was hoping the BBQ scene was still in. I am a sick, sick person.
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    Daveinva promoted this comment Edited by Adah at 11/19/09 4:13 AM Adah was starred Adah was unstarred
    Image of Daveinva Daveinva
    11/19/09

    @Adah: You're not alone. The shock value of that, the mental image... sticks in your head, that's for sure.
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    Image of JRD_2 JRD_2
    11/18/09

    In reply to What Cormac McCarthy Insisted On Keeping In The Road Movie
    Wait, so the cannibal stuff is not in the movie? I was so looking forward to baby barbecue.
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    Julius Seizure - Canuck promoted this comment JRD_2 was starred JRD_2 was unstarred
    Image of Julius Seizure - Canuck Julius Seizure - Canuck
    11/18/09

    @JRD_2: According to the trailer, it's in there. And quite a bit of the mother apparently.
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    Image of Dr Emilio Lizardo Dr Emilio Lizardo
    11/18/09

    @Julius Seizure - Canuck: She appears to have excellet taste.
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    Image of omgwtflolbbqbye omgwtflolbbqbye
    11/18/09

    In reply to What Cormac McCarthy Insisted On Keeping In The Road Movie
    I'm surprised they considered cutting something like that out in the first place...
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    Image of John Harmsworth Nelson John Harmsworth Nelson
    11/18/09

    @omgwtflolbbqbye: Get out. Surprised?
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    tetracycloide promoted this comment John Harmsworth Nelson was starred John Harmsworth Nelson was unstarred
    Image of tetracycloide tetracycloide
    11/18/09

    @John Harmsworth Nelson: he can't help it, the permanent state of shock comes with the name.
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    Image of phoghat phoghat
    11/18/09

    @omgwtflolbbqbye:
    of course they considered it, but the Cormac slapped him up side the head.
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    Image of omgwtflolbbqbye omgwtflolbbqbye
    11/18/09

    @phoghat: Yea, but that dialog was one of those 'nutshell' moments of the book.

    So I would of thought someone like Hillcoat would have recognized it as an untouchable moment that shouldn't be left out.
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    Edited by omgwtflolbbqbye at 11/18/09 8:22 PM omgwtflolbbqbye was starred omgwtflolbbqbye was unstarred
    Image of RandomDigression RandomDigression
    11/18/09

    @phoghat: Well, I'm glad he was there to do the slapping, then. That one line is the the heart of the book. I'm with omgwtflolbbqbye at being somewhat flabbergasted that they would attempt to remove it.
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    Image of InfiniteMonkey InfiniteMonkey
    11/18/09

    @John Harmsworth Nelson: Seriously huh. LOL! Where has he been the past centuries of movie making? LOL!
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    Image of omgwtflolbbqbye omgwtflolbbqbye
    11/18/09

    @InfiniteMonkey: Lol! Lol! Lol! yea I musta been living under a rock! Lol! Lol! Lol! Lol! Lol! Lol! Lol! Lol! Lol! Lol! Lol! Lol! Lol! Lol! Lol! Lol! Lol! Lol! Lol! Lol! Lol! Lol! Lol! Lol!
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    Image of akacrash akacrash
    11/18/09

    In reply to What Cormac McCarthy Insisted On Keeping In The Road Movie
    Well, the entire basis of the book was that they each stayed alive for each other. Take that out (and replace it with more cannibal), and you lose the entire premise.
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    Meredith Woerner promoted this comment akacrash was starred akacrash was unstarred
    Image of tande04 tande04
    11/18/09

    @akacrash: Was it?

    I don't know if thats what I took out of it. I don't know if the boy was ever staying alive per se for the father. The boy stayed alive because thats what he did. He was all the things that a child is (albeit with some sobering adult lessons) the naivety, the wonder, the hope and the father was all those things that you lose when you start growing up. He had to sluff some of it off the kid (the whole suicide thing was especially sobering though I guess that the kid didn't do what he was supposed to in the end was why you have as close to a happy ending as you could) but he took steps to make sure it was never completely lost (we're the "good guys" "I carry the light").

    The father certainly stayed alive for the son but I always thought there were much more selfish motivations there. He loved his wife. I have no question about that. The whole thing with the kid just seemed like he was trying to hold on to that though. He was so dedicated to the child because he was also doing what he was supposed to do and it kept him going. He would have died long ago in his own pity but the idea that he had to take care of the kid and keep that hope alive was his motivation. I just always wondered if in the end it was really for the kid or if he knew on some level it was all for him and the kid was just the manifestation of the things he didn't want to lose. I guess I think that way about any parent child relationship though. Are all of the things done out of the idea of "unconditional love" or is it the idea that you love how you makes you feel and what you get out of it in the end. Thats probably just the cynic in me though.

    BTW, not knocking your interpretation. Just throwing out my own.
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    Edited by tande04 at 11/18/09 8:45 PM tande04 was starred tande04 was unstarred
    Image of lightninglouie lightninglouie
    05/15/09

    In reply to The Road Trailer Plays Like Terrible Roland Emmerich Thrill Ride
    Oh, fuck you, Harvey.
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    Image of Son of Tezby Son of Tezby
    05/14/09

    In reply to The Road Trailer Plays Like Terrible Roland Emmerich Thrill Ride
    That was the worse book I have eva read, it was terrble. I liked good books like The Stand an other post apocalipse books like Bleak House. This was a sht book and its gonna be a sht film.
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    Image of Corby Kennard Corby Kennard
    05/14/09

    @I&I: Good to meet you. I thought I was like the cheese, standing alone. Good to know other's have not been taken in by the Oprah Book Club Hype.
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    Image of Son of Tezby Son of Tezby
    05/14/09

    @Corby Kennard: Joke.
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    Son of Tezby was starred Son of Tezby was unstarred
    Image of Corby Kennard Corby Kennard
    05/15/09

    @I&I: Which part?
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    Corby Kennard was starred Corby Kennard was unstarred
    Image of Son of Tezby Son of Tezby
    05/15/09

    @Corby Kennard: The whole damn thing. The Road is a masterpiece, you doofus.
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    Image of lightninglouie lightninglouie
    05/15/09

    @I&I: PWNED!!!
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