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    Mysterious Infrared Aurora Glows at Saturn's North Pole

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    Image of RAHfanboy RAHfanboy
    11/15/08

    In reply to Mysterious Infrared Aurora Glows at Saturn's North Pole
    If any of us actually get to space and see some of the things we've seen pictures of, we'll be most likely disappointed that everything is not colorized like the photos we've seen. Not that I wouldn't take my chances...
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    Image of Meirelle Meirelle
    11/14/08

    In reply to Mysterious Infrared Aurora Glows at Saturn's North Pole
    Saturn has their own LHC, and they just activated it.
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    Image of NotChoinski NotChoinski
    11/14/08

    In reply to Mysterious Infrared Aurora Glows at Saturn's North Pole
    I see the hexagon is still there.


    [en.wikipedia.org]

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    Image of Dug Dug
    11/14/08

    In reply to Mysterious Infrared Aurora Glows at Saturn's North Pole
    Its those damn Dwellers.
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    Image of Grey_Area Grey_Area
    11/14/08

    @Dug: My money is on a waepons test by the Affront. I love those wacky gasbags!
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    Image of evildead1971 evildead1971
    11/14/08

    In reply to Mysterious Infrared Aurora Glows at Saturn's North Pole
    when i first read the title i saw aurora snow; what does a porn star have to do with sci-fi?
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    Image of RAHfanboy RAHfanboy
    11/15/08

    @evildead1971: If we put our minds to it, we should be able to think of something.
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    Image of Gearhead_42 - Nibbles ate my garage! Gearhead_42 - Nibbles ate my garage!
    11/14/08

    In reply to Mysterious Infrared Aurora Glows at Saturn's North Pole
    "will no doubt lead us to physics which uniquely operates in the environment of Saturn"


    I so want to throw this statement in the face of those who insist that physics is universal...

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    Image of Gann Gann
    11/14/08

    @Gearhead_42: So you credit the variation to non-universal laws of physics, instead of the mundane possibility that each planet has unique conditions that lead to different results but follow the same universal rules?
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    Image of Gearhead_42 - Nibbles ate my garage! Gearhead_42 - Nibbles ate my garage!
    11/14/08

    @Gann: Define universal rule, then revisit your comment. I'll wait ;-)
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    Image of Gann Gann
    11/14/08

    @Gearhead_42: I suppose I meant universal law. Look it up yourself, it's a pretty common concept.
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    Image of Xerloq, we are all made of stars. Xerloq, we are all made of stars.
    11/14/08

    @Gann: Still, the burden of proof lies with the prosecution.


    I think it's the EM shroud for an alien base. Screw physics! (not really).

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    Image of Gann Gann
    11/14/08

    @Xerloq: The original comment is attacking the concept of universal laws, so your 'burden of proof' lies with Gearhead.
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    Image of Gearhead_42 - Nibbles ate my garage! Gearhead_42 - Nibbles ate my garage!
    11/14/08

    @Gearhead_42: Nothing more depressing than a joke you have to explain...


    A Universal Law (of physics, in this case) is one that, regardless of the position in the universe at which it is applied, has a similar (if not identical) effect. Yes?


    To apply the term to a Law of Physics implies that the physics in question are universal and therefore unaffected by location or conditions.


    If, then, you (meaning the scientist quoted above) state that the physics of a situation are unique to that location in space they can not, by definition, be universal.


    Or is my logic hopelessly flawed?

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    Image of Gann Gann
    11/14/08

    @Gearhead_42: You are correct in saying that scientist's statement implies non-universal physics. I wouldn't though, "throw the statement in the face of those who insist that physics is universal". You are also correct in that a universal law has the same effect regardless of position, but you are confusing effect with result. The law of gravity has the same effect everywhere in the universe we have observed, but will have a drastically different result depending on if you are standing in chicago, or a black hole.
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    11/14/08

    @Gann: Sigh. I honestly never meant to imply that this guy was right, just that his statement was quite flawed and, well... hell with it.


    I resign.

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    Image of Gann Gann
    11/14/08

    @Gearhead_42: Ah, I must have missed the [sarcasm][/sarcasm]. I love accidentally arguing with people I agree with.
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    Image of RAHfanboy RAHfanboy
    11/15/08

    @Gearhead_42: It was a p[oorly worded statement by the scientist and really isn't worth the brouhaha (brouhaha? Ha ha hahahah!) it's causing.
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