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    Image of Jrsy Devil's Advocate® Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
    10/26/09

    In reply to Will New Dredd Film Be As Bad As The Old One? - Updated
    I'm hoping the new Dredd film will be bad ASS! #judgedredd
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    Image of Communist Pope Communist Pope
    10/26/09

    In reply to Will New Dredd Film Be As Bad As The Old One? - Updated
    I hope they get Jason Statham to play Dredd, assuming he can pull off an American accent (I'm sure he can, all British actors seem to be able to do it). Put him in Dredd's uniform and he'll look exactly like the character did in the original early stories: all sinewy and mean. #judgedredd
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    Image of Trystero Trystero
    10/27/09

    @Communist Pope: But would Statham submit to leaving the helmet on? #judgedredd
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    Image of BlueBeard BlueBeard
    10/26/09

    In reply to Will New Dredd Film Be As Bad As The Old One? - Updated
    Judge Dredd was a decent movie, otherwise why would Lucas rip it off point by point for attack of the clones?

    In actuality, I do think Judge Dredd was a good movie, because no matter how bad you think it was, you still watch it every time it comes on TV. Don't lie, we know you watch it. Did Stallone break the rules by insisting on showing his face? Yes, yes he did, but we also got Max Von Sydow. The scene where he dons his cloak and mask, ventures out into the bad lands with his book of law and a monstrous gun and embarks on his Long Walk is just awesome.

    In this post Dark Knight age, the "gritty" hero movie is a reality in a way it has never really been before. It means there will be trendy late-comers trying to horn in on the action, but for the most part I view it as a huge opportunity for movies to be made as they should have been made. Gritty Judge Dredd is obvious, but it is also right, and now we have a real chance at seeing the movie done properly. #judgedredd
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    Image of Communist Pope Communist Pope
    10/26/09

    @BlueBeard: I wouldn't say it was a *good* movie, but I don't think it was nearly as bad as most people seem to. Take away the helmet removal and the goofy sidekick, and it stayed very true to the Dredd/2000 AD universe. As I've pointed out before on this site, it even had an ABC Robot in it.

    If only all comics adaptations would stay as true to their source material. To put it in perspective, imagine if the people behind the Hellblazer movie had made Judge Dredd. It probably would've been set in, I dunno, Miami instead of Mega-City One and Dredd would've been Chinese. Given that there was no way a studio would've greenlit a Sylvester Stallone flick in which Stallone never reveals his face (same applies to any major star), and no studio would've approved the Dredd budget without a major star, they did alright.
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    Edited by Communist Pope at 10/26/09 11:43 AM Communist Pope was starred Communist Pope was unstarred
    Image of BlueBeard BlueBeard
    10/26/09

    @Communist Pope: By Hellblazer, you mean Constantine, right? I never read that book, but I really like the movie- it's another one I'll watch any time it is on. I don't know if it was accurate to the character in any way, and I didn't even know it was based on a comic until later on, but I thought it was a well laid out story, and I like Keanu. He isn't a "great actor" at all, but I'm not watching him in Merchant of Venice, am I? I don't know why so many people dislike Constantine, but I'd bet it is mostly anti-Keanu knee-jerk hate

    Yeah, Dredd wasn't great, but as you say, not nearly as bad as people make it out to be. As serious and gritty as I want my action movies to be, people need to realize these things are based on comics and are often going to be full of ridiculousness. #judgedredd
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    Image of Jrsy Devil's Advocate® Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
    10/26/09

    @BlueBeard: Being a long time Dredd fan I wasn't entirely thrilled with the film but like you, I do still watch it every time I see it on TV. They got some stuff wrong and some stuff right. Given Hollywood's usual treatment of things they did at least have enough respect for the source material not to completely butcher it.
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    Edited by Jrsy Devil's Advocate® at 10/26/09 12:41 PM Jrsy Devil's Advocate® was starred Jrsy Devil's Advocate® was unstarred
    Image of Communist Pope Communist Pope
    10/26/09

    @BlueBeard: Right, Constantine -- forgot that they even changed the name of the property. Going back to my previous example, I guess they would've called their hypothetical Judge Dredd movie "Mean Mr. Joe" or something.

    I didn't think Constantine was completely horrible by any means, just giving an example of how much some filmmakers like to ignore/mess with the source material.
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    Edited by Communist Pope at 10/26/09 1:03 PM Communist Pope was starred Communist Pope was unstarred
    Image of Xerendian Xerendian
    10/26/09

    In reply to Will New Dredd Film Be As Bad As The Old One? - Updated
    I don't know why people are so bothered about Dredd showing his face in the films. He might have kept covered up in the comics but that is something achievable in that medium without looking weird, and seemingly something they kept going mainly as a running in-joke - there's no actual point to it, it's just something quirky the readers know to expect.

    So for a film, especially with a big star, it's not feasible or desirable to have Dredd's face hidden. He must take his helmet off sometimes, even in the comics, yet he is just never seen doing so in order to preserve that part of the character. So the only way of doing it properly in the film would be to write it so that Dredd is never in a situation where he would remove his helmet, therefore legitimising the fact that his face is never seen, or come up with a good reason why he wants to hide his face that can be explained simply. Otherwise there's little point to it. #judgedredd
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    Discodave: R.O.A.C.H. M.O.T.E.L. promoted this comment Xerendian was starred Xerendian was unstarred
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    10/26/09

    @Xerendian: There are a few reasons why he'd never remove his helmet, namely: He's a clone, been beaten to a pulp on several occasions and has artificial eyes.

    Plus, there really should be no reason for him to take off his helmet - he's the ultimate cop archetype of "never off duty". #judgedredd
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    Image of CarrerCrytharis CarrerCrytharis
    10/26/09

    In reply to Will New Dredd Film Be As Bad As The Old One? - Updated
    Never gets old. #judgedredd
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    Harrison_Bergeron promoted this comment CarrerCrytharis was starred CarrerCrytharis was unstarred
    Image of Indigen Indigen
    10/26/09

    @CarrerCrytharis:
    [dreddlawextended.ytmnd.com]

    [dredlawwww.ytmnd.com] #judgedredd
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    Dr Emilio Lizardo promoted this comment Indigen was starred Indigen was unstarred
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    10/26/09

    @Indigen: I was going to say that if it didn't have Stallone slurring "I EM DE LE" it would be better, bet a video is worth a thousand phonetic typings. #judgedredd
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    Image of FrankenPC FrankenPC
    10/26/09

    In reply to Will New Dredd Film Be As Bad As The Old One? - Updated
    2000AD was so awesome. There were many great stories, why just focus on Dredd? #judgedredd
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    Image of theblazeuk theblazeuk
    10/27/09

    @FrankenPC: ButtonMan should definitely be a movie. Zenith would make an excellent addition to the superhero trend with a little updating to shake the 80's/early 90's off.

    Most of the other thrills would be better off as animated specials I think, as Sinister Dexter live action would be a little too ironic for me.

    Though Strontium Dog could be a good 'un actually. Other thrils just seem to ask for so much budget that I think its too unrealistic to expect it these days without a lot of sacrifice of the source material.

    (And 2000AD is still going strong btw. They replaced Hershey as Chief Judge! They exiled Dredd to be a cursed earth township sheriff! Dredd has a niece and another two clone brothers! Muties were allowed in the city after Dredd took a stand against an injust law! It's big days in the big meg.) #judgedredd
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    FrankenPC promoted this comment theblazeuk was starred theblazeuk was unstarred
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    10/28/09

    @theblazeuk: <3 Strontium Dog!! I stopped reading after 1985. But, I've still got em! Good to hear they continue on. #judgedredd
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    Image of OlavRokne OlavRokne
    10/26/09

    In reply to Will New Dredd Film Be As Bad As The Old One? - Updated
    I enjoyed the old movie -- it was a good cast with dumb action and odd special effects.

    Plus Max Von Sydow is awesome. #judgedredd
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    Image of GreyHammer GreyHammer
    10/26/09

    @OlavRokne: the old one is so bad its good. i cant ever turn it off when it comes on tv #judgedredd
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    Image of The Curse of Millhaven The Curse of Millhaven
    10/26/09

    @OlavRokne: Actually, by now the summer blockbuster has dropped down to the level of the original or below. Michael Bay wishes he could have as compelling a film as the original. #judgedredd
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    Image of hhaller hhaller
    10/26/09

    In reply to Will New Dredd Film Be As Bad As The Old One? - Updated
    Diane Lane was kind of hot in the first one, and...come to think of it, that's the only compliment I can lavish upon that film. #judgedredd
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    The Curse of Millhaven promoted this comment hhaller was starred hhaller was unstarred
    Image of The Curse of Millhaven The Curse of Millhaven
    10/26/09

    @hhaller: Joan Chen for me. That movie did not deserve her. #judgedredd
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    Image of AngriestGeek AngriestGeek
    10/26/09

    In reply to Will New Dredd Film Be As Bad As The Old One? - Updated
    Well, that means it'll at least look good...just like the old one. #judgedredd
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    Image of GreyHammer GreyHammer
    10/26/09

    In reply to Will New Dredd Film Be As Bad As The Old One? - Updated
    you'll never get a star to not show his face so get ready for that fan boys. #judgedredd
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    Image of grimdeath9740 grimdeath9740
    10/26/09

    @GreyHammer: Hmm as if this never happens with any other voice overs? Try every animated movie and plenty of car commercials :P Plus a voice is a voice...hire someone that will. #judgedredd
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    ThisDudeRufus promoted this comment grimdeath9740 was starred grimdeath9740 was unstarred
    Image of ThisDudeRufus ThisDudeRufus
    10/26/09

    @grimdeath9740: Hugo Weaving didn't in V for Vendetta, so there's always hope... #judgedredd
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    Image of CmdrHunt (aka Clarence Colton) CmdrHunt (aka Clarence Colton)
    10/26/09

    @ThisDudeRufus: Hugo Weaving is a good actor.

    Don't know who else could lend just their voice to a leading role. Unless you got with a Hollywood unknown... #judgedredd
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    Image of AngriestGeek AngriestGeek
    10/18/09

    In reply to THEY ARE THE LAW!
    Aren't the Linear Men of DC time cops?
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    Edited by AngriestGeek at 10/18/09 11:21 AM AngriestGeek was starred AngriestGeek was unstarred
    Image of CmdrHunt (aka Clarence Colton) CmdrHunt (aka Clarence Colton)
    10/17/09

    In reply to THEY ARE THE LAW!
    Robocop will always have a special place in my geek heart - Peter Weller at his best.

    Robo enforced the law the only way a cyborg from the 1980's could - which is by killing off half of Old Detroit's criminal population.

    Judge Dredd - favorite future lawman. Robo a close second. #judgedredd
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    Image of ceti ceti
    10/17/09

    @CmdrHunt (aka Clarence Colton): Robocop was awesome more for its statement on Reagan-era corporatism extrapolated into the near future. This theme was retained through all three movies with diminishing returns, but with the same basic premise of privatization of the police force and even entire cities. Oppressive Capitalist Pigs (OCP) was even seen spray painted in Robocop 3where a urban guerrilla movement rose up against Blackwater-style mercenaries. #judgedredd
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    Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. promoted this comment ceti was starred ceti was unstarred
    Image of Communist Pope Communist Pope
    10/17/09

    In reply to THEY ARE THE LAW!
    Take away Dredd removing his helmet and Rob Schneider Sidekick and Judge Dredd was actually a very faithful adaptation of the 2000 AD series. Heck, it even had an ABC robot. But yeah, removing the helmet (for most of the movie no less) was wa-a-a-a-ay out of character. #judgedredd
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    Communist Pope was starred Communist Pope was unstarred
    Image of Starlionblue Starlionblue
    10/17/09

    @Communist Pope: I actually liked the movie. It was a fun American blockbuster.

    As a Brit commented said about Terminator: Salivation (I paraphrase): "When you go and see the latest American blockbuster you go and see the latest American blockbuster. If it's great, then great. If it's pants, you weren't expecting Merchant Ivory. #judgedredd
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    franklinshepard promoted this comment Starlionblue was starred Starlionblue was unstarred
    Image of franklinshepard franklinshepard
    10/18/09

    @Starlionblue: The movie was ok, but I don't think it holds up as well as Demolition Man. #judgedredd
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    Image of Starlionblue Starlionblue
    10/18/09

    @franklinshepard: Agreed. #judgedredd
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    Image of Bootknife-Jackson Bootknife-Jackson
    10/17/09

    In reply to THEY ARE THE LAW!
    i have three old issues i got in a grab bag years ago, of Marvel UK's Strip Magazine, an anthology that ran, among other features, Marshal Law! a great predecesor to things like Warren Ellis's Transmetroplotin. also a good look at some of the early work of Kevin O'Neil (who would go on to illustrate Alan Moore's League Of Extrodinary Gentlemen ) #judgedredd
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    Image of Bill-Lee Bill-Lee
    10/17/09

    In reply to THEY ARE THE LAW!
    I've read that Judge Dredd was one of the inspirations for RoboCop. It's like Dredd gets on the list twice. He is the lawww! #judgedredd
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    Image of Bootknife-Jackson Bootknife-Jackson
    10/17/09

    @Bill-Lee: IAMABOVETHELAW! #judgedredd
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