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    How Isaac Asimov's Non-Deadly Robots Got Lethal

    Countdown Science Fiction's 10 Most Murderous Robots

    Could'a Been Contenders...

    #1: The Manhunters

    #2: Unicron

    #3: The Cylons

    #4: Separatist Battle Droids

    #5: Skynet/The Terminators

    #6: Sentinels (The Matrix)

    #7: Sentinels (Marvel Comics)
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    Image of cash907 cash907
    05/24/09

    In reply to How Isaac Asimov's Non-Deadly Robots Got Lethal
    Dors didn't deactivate due to her actions resulting in the death of a human being, she deactivated because the human being she killed had figured out she was a robot, and used a device to scramble her positronic pathways beyond repair about a millisecond before she bashed his head in, literally. She had harmed humans numerous times before this, serving as Seldon's bodyguard, which shouldn't have been able to happen unless the Zeroeth law was sufficiently strong enough to override the First law. The only reason she was able to do something that Giskard and his kind could not, was because her brain was designed with the Zeroeth law hardwired in, instead of as a philosophical concept as it was for him, as well as her creator R. Daneel Olivaw.


    You need to go back and reread Asimov's books Alasdair... your memory is slipping a bit.

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    Image of Alasdair Wilkins Alasdair Wilkins
    05/24/09

    @cash907: I'm going to have to disagree with you somewhat. I actually looked over the relevant passages from Forward the Foundation in writing this post, and although I glossed over the role of the Electro-Clarifier (something I've now corrected) I'm still pretty sure she had some problems with so completely violating the First Law. Specifically, she says: "I finally killed a human being. --First time. --Makes it worse." That's clearly ascribing at least a portion of her pain to the killing itself, not her poisoning. Either way, she's pretty deadly, and that's my real point.
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    Image of Grey_Area Grey_Area
    05/24/09

    In reply to How Isaac Asimov's Non-Deadly Robots Got Lethal
    It's a shame everyone forgets Asimov's role on the long-running TV comedy the Goodies.

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    Image of Anekanta - former space marine Anekanta - former space marine
    05/24/09

    @Grey_Area: He seems so young!
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    Image of Grey_Area Grey_Area
    05/24/09

    @Atnakena: Time travel, duh.
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    Image of Meirelle Meirelle
    05/20/09

    In reply to Countdown Science Fiction's 10 Most Murderous Robots
    Unicron eats planets. Unicron wins.
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    Image of Ellusion Ellusion
    05/20/09

    In reply to #9: ABC Warriors
    The robot pictured had a cameo in Judge Dredd as Armand Assantes sidekick.
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    Image of KhaiJB KhaiJB
    05/20/09

    @Ellusion: that wasn't Hammerstein tho.. just an 'ABC Robot'... and made by Ford not Rover like ol' Red Eye's.
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    Image of icy_one icy_one
    05/20/09

    In reply to Countdown Science Fiction's 10 Most Murderous Robots
    Yay, one per page for maximum ad views! My favorite format. Please do more of these, I absolutely love waiting to view content in the format of 2 paragraph per page.
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    Image of corpore-metal corpore-metal
    05/19/09

    In reply to Countdown Science Fiction's 10 Most Murderous Robots
    There was an episode of Doctor Who, where robot judges, called Justice Machines, declared an entire galaxy in contempt of court and then carried a sentence of death on it. I can't remember that episode title or all the details too well.


    Maybe the Justice Machines didn't kill an entire galaxy. Maybe they just fined all the inhabitants or something.

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    Image of Grey_Area Grey_Area
    05/19/09

    @corpore-metal: Community Service
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    Image of EBone EBone
    05/19/09

    In reply to #3: The Cylons
    150,000 years ago, not millions.
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    Image of Pope John Peeps II Pope John Peeps II
    05/19/09

    In reply to Countdown Science Fiction's 10 Most Murderous Robots
    the Matrid drone arms from Lexx which eat an entire universe?
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    Image of Commander Shepard Commander Shepard
    05/19/09

    In reply to #9: ABC Warriors
    I always wanted to get into 2000AD but I would have no clue where to start. I like the British take on comics but not they way they publish them.
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    Image of KhaiJB KhaiJB
    05/19/09

    @rosscobtex: what once a week?
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    Image of NotChoinski NotChoinski
    05/19/09

    In reply to Could'a Been Contenders...
    GORT (2009 version)
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    Image of TrueCrime TrueCrime
    05/19/09

    In reply to Countdown Science Fiction's 10 Most Murderous Robots
    I would love to have seen a shout-out to the Killbots from Chopping Mall.


    [www.syracuse.com]

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    Image of TrueCrime TrueCrime
    05/19/09

    @TrueCrime: Wow, that was a wrong link...
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    Image of jajbowler jajbowler
    05/19/09

    In reply to Countdown Science Fiction's 10 Most Murderous Robots
    Do the reapers from Mass Effect count? Wiping out all sentient life every 50 thousand years seems pretty murderous.
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    Image of Andrew Liptak Andrew Liptak
    05/19/09

    In reply to #4: Separatist Battle Droids
    Just not the ones from the TV show. They're all idiots. Although the stealth ones are decent.
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    Image of NefariousNewt NefariousNewt
    05/19/09

    In reply to Countdown Science Fiction's 10 Most Murderous Robots
    What, no Berserkers?
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    Image of Sukigod Sukigod
    05/19/09

    In reply to Could'a Been Contenders...
    Berzerkers from Saberhagen?


    Badlife anyone?

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    Image of Grey_Area Grey_Area
    05/19/09

    @Sukigod: Just what I was thinking! They might have been ignored here because the Beserkers eschewed taking filthy anthropomorphic forms (usually).


    As cool as a Boris Vallejo image of a huge planet-killing ship would be, it goes against Graeme's meatbag prejudices.

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