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    Have You Read The Best Books Of 2009 According To Amazon.Com?

    Science Fiction Vs. The Literary Establishment, Round One Million

    The Science Fiction Writer Who Received Fan Mail From Virginia Woolf

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    Image of Golem100 Golem100
    11/03/09

    In reply to Have You Read The Best Books Of 2009 According To Amazon.Com?
    I haven't read any of those books. I'll have to add them to my increasingly long "to read" list. #books
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    11/03/09

    In reply to Have You Read The Best Books Of 2009 According To Amazon.Com?
    Looking at the editors' vs customers' lists (i.e., on the customers' list, we got glenn beck, dan brown, michele malkin, palin, etc.), I wonder - do Republicans and idiots read more books than we do, or do they all just read the same book, while we read a wider variety? #books
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    11/03/09

    @psybab: Conservative think tanks drop a ton of cash to buy up copies, raising the amazon rankings. Then they send out emails to the wingnut bloggers, offering them and their readers Palin points to write positive reviews. Occasionally an actual review slips in but mostly it's astroturf. #books
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    Image of Spaceknight Spaceknight
    11/03/09

    In reply to Have You Read The Best Books Of 2009 According To Amazon.Com?
    must really suck to have a publication date in November or December, Amazon won't even consider you for best of 2009! #books
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    Image of SnehalMarten SnehalMarten
    11/03/09

    In reply to Have You Read The Best Books Of 2009 According To Amazon.Com?
    Is anyone here willing to vouch for
    "Yellow Blue Tibia" (from Russia with Lurv) by Adam Roberts? Are there any great reveals? I don't mind if you submit a few spoilers.
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    11/03/09

    @SnehalMarten: there was one on this site a while back but it might take some searching. i think grey area wrote it, if that helps at all. #books
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    Image of CColdsmoke CColdsmoke
    11/03/09

    In reply to Have You Read The Best Books Of 2009 According To Amazon.Com?
    Man, I've been trying to read Palimpsest for months now. All I can think of when I pick it up is Grimace wrestling Barney in a field of violets beneath a purple haze. It's so damn flowery. Love the concept, hate the execution.

    All of these lists (best of 2009 in every category) make me realize I just did not read enough this year.
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    Image of crashedpc - Haifisch crashedpc - Haifisch
    11/03/09

    @CColdsmoke: So... you're saying it's kinda purpley? #books
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    Image of CColdsmoke CColdsmoke
    11/03/09

    @crashedpc - Haifisch: Where would you get that notion?

    I forgot to mention plums, eggplants, grapes, and amethyst. #books
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    11/03/09

    @CColdsmoke: Damn, I don't want a book that bleak, grimy, and post-apocalyptic. #books
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    11/03/09

    In reply to Have You Read The Best Books Of 2009 According To Amazon.Com?
    Mieville's "The City and The City" trumped everyone and made it to the top 10 books of 2009 #books
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    Image of acrobatic rabbit acrobatic rabbit
    11/03/09

    In reply to Have You Read The Best Books Of 2009 According To Amazon.Com?
    I for one, would just like to impose my opinion that George R. R. Martin needs to really finish his Ice & Fire series. Like he said he would. Two years ago. #books
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    11/03/09

    @acrobatic rabbit: Thanks for reminding me that that series exists, and that at this point I have already completely forgotten everything about that series, except for the nasty secret re: the twins. #books
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    11/03/09

    @acrobatic rabbit:
    Still waiting here as well. Hurry it up Mr. Martin. #books
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    11/03/09

    @crashedpc - Haifisch: still unable to scrub that hideous piece of bothersome information from my brain. #books
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    Image of enderwiggin13 enderwiggin13
    11/03/09

    @acrobatic rabbit: Bloody hell...I forgot all about it. Wasn't October 2009 considered the publish date for the longest time? Finish the series before you die G.R.R.M. #books
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    11/03/09

    @enderwiggin13: @JRD_2: Heh... GRRRRRRRM! I'm going to say that IRL whenever I refer to Martin from now on.

    As you were. #books
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    11/03/09

    @crashedpc - Haifisch: It just rolls off the tongue and fingers nicely doesn't it? GRRRRRRRM! like germies. #books
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    Image of DisturbingClown DisturbingClown
    11/03/09

    @acrobatic rabbit: And yet he has plenty of time to go to conventions and hang out on the set of the HBO adaption of the books, it seems.

    I remember him saying how quickly the next book would be out since it was mostly written. That was like four years ago. Not that I'm a bitter nerd or anything. #books
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    11/03/09

    @DisturbingClown: no not at all. i read his updates on his website....i think the latest update is over a year old. talk about writer's block. #books
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    11/03/09

    @acrobatic rabbit: I heard in August(?) he had just finished re-writing three chapters and was tinkering with the ending.
    He. Will. Never. Finish this. #books
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    Image of MrFlake MrFlake
    11/04/09

    @Grey_Area: He WILL finish it, even if it involves threats, kidnappings etc.

    I have spoken. #books
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    11/04/09

    @MrFlake: We could just take away his paints and lead miniatures. #books
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    Image of Starwatcher Starwatcher
    11/03/09

    In reply to Have You Read The Best Books Of 2009 According To Amazon.Com?
    Love Caitlin Kiernan. Glad she made the list. Read her short story Persephone and you'll be hooked.
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    Image of acrobatic rabbit acrobatic rabbit
    11/03/09

    @Starwatcher: wow! what a great story. thanks for posting that. i'll definitely have to check her out. #books
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    Image of Iamthe5thcylon Iamthe5thcylon
    11/03/09

    In reply to Have You Read The Best Books Of 2009 According To Amazon.Com?
    David Anthony Durham is brilliant and you should ABSOLUTELY read the first book - Acacia. #books
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    Image of Ruthless, If you let me Ruthless, If you let me
    11/03/09

    In reply to Have You Read The Best Books Of 2009 According To Amazon.Com?
    No The Translated Man? I heartily enjoyed that. #books
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    11/03/09

    @Ruthless, If you let me: We need braak to work a few more street corners to get the word out. #books
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    Image of burlybax burlybax
    11/03/09

    In reply to Have You Read The Best Books Of 2009 According To Amazon.Com?
    I love Amazon, that has to be the only site where I don't mind them mulling through my data and search results, because they come up with some really good suggested products personalized to my taste.. #books
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    Image of Chip Overclock Chip Overclock
    11/03/09

    @burlybax: Ditto on the Amazon love. But their suggestion engine has some weird Wisdom-of-Crowds moments:

    [coverclock.blogspot.com] #books
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    Image of Allen_Richards Allen_Richards
    11/03/09

    In reply to Have You Read The Best Books Of 2009 According To Amazon.Com?
    Alrighty, IO9-ers, give me some feedback on what's the pick of the liter here. Based on general consensus, I'll head up to Borders and pick up what you guys suggest. #books
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    11/03/09

    @Allen_Richards: Get Iain M. Banks's Transition and China Mieville's The City and The City. Not on the list, as Charlie Jane mentioned above, but those books are awesome. #books
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    11/03/09

    @Allen_Richards: I've not read any on the list yet, but I do have Boneshaker waiting at home for when I finish one of the two I'm reading now - The Scar by China Mieville and The Quiet War by Paul McAuley. Both are very much worth reading. I've heard good things about crashedpc's recommendations though and they are on my list. #books
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    11/03/09

    @Allen_Richards: If you want something specifically on this list, I am mid-way through Boneshaker, and it is pretty good. You might be better with crashedpc's suggestions though, which are as he states: awesome. #books
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    11/03/09

    @Ruthless, If you let me: @enderwiggin13:

    *twiddles frequency on brainwasher device* Hmm... need to increase the range on this baby. #books
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    11/03/09

    @Allen_Richards:
    Gone Away World is worth picking up if you haven't already done so as well. #books
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    Image of enderwiggin13 enderwiggin13
    11/03/09

    @crashedpc - Haifisch: Is this why I've been having nightmares of the Korean War? #books
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    11/03/09

    @enderwiggin13: I could give you flashbacks to the Civil War if you want that, instead.

    Or I could tell you to go read Devices and Desires, book one in the Engineer Trilogy by K J Parker. I liked its dry humor/character building. #books
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    11/03/09

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    I wish people would make a distinction between science fiction and fantasy. this amalgam of the two does not sit well with me. #books
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    11/03/09

    @froggy: Taxonomy is not destiny. #books
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    11/03/09

    @froggy: Although to be fair, the genres are overlapping more and more these days. I think speculative fiction is being bandied about as the overarching genre. Gone are the days when sci-fi meant Flash Gordon clones and fantasy was orcs and elves and swords and arrows. There are still plenty of books distinctly in one camp or the other but the lines are becoming very blurry in others. #books
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    09/25/09

    In reply to Science Fiction Vs. The Literary Establishment, Round One Million
    I’m new to science fiction, so I’m starting with people like Clarke, Asimov, Bradbury, and Niven (who is by far the most hit and miss of these authors). I’ve also read some McDevitt, LeGuinn, and smatterings of other authors here and there, and I know there are many, many more (sometimes I feel a little overwhelmed by the choices). I didn’t read much until college, at which time I discovered and then devoured with relish the works of Garcia Marquez, Camus, Dickens, Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Melville, Conrad, Faulkner, Steinbeck, and Hemmingway. I eventually moved on to some of the contemporary heirs to these literary giants, including Cormac McCarthy and Arundhati Roy (when will she write another novel!?), so I’m the first to admit that my literary elitism kept me from reading science fiction for a long time.

    But now that I’ve finally shed that snobbery, I’m loving sci-fi. One thing I would say about what I’ve read so far is that I miss the poetical allusions and rich language found in classic literature. Science fiction writers (at least that ones I’ve read so far), tend to be very practical in their use of language. Maybe this has to do with the fact that science fiction is a genre that often deals with the realities of the physical universe rather than with the matters of the human soul. You can’t be all that poetically circumspect about the Bussard ramjet, after all.

    I also think that classic writers (literary writers, if we want to use the term as a gentle pejorative) were both spiritual AND humanist philosophers, whereas it seems to be no longer in vogue for science-fiction writers to explore spiritual ideas concurrently with scientific and humanist ones. (I’m thinking of all the bashing BSG gets in talkbacks around here for having the temerity to suggest there might be more in the universe than can be comprehended by our feeble brains. I notice a lot of this bashing spills over into similar complaints about prose science fiction that tries to do the same thing. Please forgive any ham-fisted generalities inferred by this observation. And please feel free to correct me if you think I’m mistaken.)

    Of course, this is not to say that science-fiction writers don’t deal eloquently with the vicissitudes of the human condition, but in writing fiction that is in many ways primarily about "Ideas" concerning technology and the future sociological conditions of the human race, rather than explicating the "Experiences" of man as a spiritual being, the narrowed scope of the themes appear to limit the richness of the language employed in the prose itself. Meaning, heavy with metaphorical possibilities, gives way to facts, which are interesting, but are usually treated with a kind of sterile formality.

    Now that I’m reading and enjoying science fiction, I’m on the prowl for a writer or writers who explore the time-tested themes of the genre, but who also employ a richness of language in their writing. Naturally, any suggestions would be welcome. I’d also love to read some thoughtful counterpoints arguing against my assumptions about science fiction. Come on, io9-ers. Dazzle me!
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    09/24/09

    In reply to Science Fiction Vs. The Literary Establishment, Round One Million
    I have never in my life thought "Hmmm...that looks like an interesting book. But WAIT! What do a bunch of English people think about it? I must allow them to inform my value judgement!"

    I just don't care. But maybe that's because I'm not a joiner.
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    09/25/09

    @moofie: I agree with you in terms of what decisions we make as readers, but fact is, awards like this increase circulation and sales.
    The book with the recent award will be on the end-caps and display tables at the bookstores or on the front page of websites, inviting more people to read them who may never have come across it otherwise.
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