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I am in favor of no Heinlein or Farmer on this list. I've found their version of sex to be about the least sexy thing on this planet or any other.
Not only that, from what I've read of Heinlein (a lot of the earlier stuff, admittedly) Heinlein strikes me as an incredibly ham-fisted sexist.
I personally find that lately Peter Hamilton's books seem to sex it up quite a bit, and some of it has been rather good. Probably a bit subjective, I guess, but trying to find good sex in Sci-fi is questionable anyhow. Despite the complaint above, I think Fantasy has always done a better job as a genre - until recently, maybe.
Lastly, Barker's sex scenes in IMAJICA were some of the best I'd ever read, especially his bits on anal sex, to be rather explicit.
@Golem100: I haven't read these books by Farmer - only the first couple of Riverworld books. Are they actually intended to be sexy, or do they just contain sex? There is a difference. :)
@hitmouse: @hitmouse: How can this be, for the man who brought Jeanne D'Arc back to life as an alien skank with Gilles de Rais as a snake nested in her hoochy? Surely Farmer deserves honor for that alone.
That, and the pig boy whose unit lit up.
No, I am not kidding. The Image of the Beast turns folks queer and kinky on contact, I tell you what.
@cash907: When we didn't cover fantasy, everybody yelled at us. Now that we officially DO cover fantasy, everybody yells at us. We must be doing something right!
@Annalee Newitz: MY GOD! I missed the memo -- last I heard, you were just adding "urban fantasy," and I've been all confused about the things showing up as topics lately.
That book by Octavia Butler that you described is not Lilith's Brood, it's the three novels in the Xenogenesis series: Dawn, Adulthood Rites, and Imago.
The Oankali = my favorite aliens EVER in sci-fi. Even though they rely too much on messy wetware.
C'mon, no Heinlein? Fondling your mother while you (younger version) are asleep in the back seat? TK foreplay? Polyamory of every conceivable form?
We won't even mention Piers Anthony. Sex with robots, aliens, unicorns, werewolves, incest, etc. I don't think there's anything his characters won't bone. Even zombie sex.
@vrey_oneida: Oh yeah I'm all about the Gaean trilogy . . . and I've written about it here before. But if I recall, there's not a lot of actual sex that happens on the page. Mostly it's sort of off-screen, or happens when one of the characters is in a crazy haze.
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Not only that, from what I've read of Heinlein (a lot of the earlier stuff, admittedly) Heinlein strikes me as an incredibly ham-fisted sexist.
I personally find that lately Peter Hamilton's books seem to sex it up quite a bit, and some of it has been rather good. Probably a bit subjective, I guess, but trying to find good sex in Sci-fi is questionable anyhow. Despite the complaint above, I think Fantasy has always done a better job as a genre - until recently, maybe.
Lastly, Barker's sex scenes in IMAJICA were some of the best I'd ever read, especially his bits on anal sex, to be rather explicit.
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the "Tarzan" character is ass raped, and "Jane" (the cousin of "Doc Savage") is raped by a giant ape (with a laughably small penis).
I highly recommend that you expand your "classical" horizons with some PJF. He is still absolutely fresh and at (or beyond) the edge of the envelope.
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11/26/08
There *was* a reason that he was one of the dedicatees of Heinlein's "Stranger in a Strange Land".
11/26/08
That, and the pig boy whose unit lit up.
No, I am not kidding. The Image of the Beast turns folks queer and kinky on contact, I tell you what.
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Stranger in a Strange Land = SciFi
Any Anne Rice book = fantasy bullsh*t
Ya dig?
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11/26/08
HOORAY!!!!!!! *throws confetti!*
YOU ARE TOTALLY DOING SOMETHING RIGHT :D
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I think it's less the fact that you're covering fantasy now, and more the fact that you just now lumped it under the sci-fi name.
11/27/08
Ah, but if you go back far enough, "fantasy" was just another sub-category of science fiction.
Or was that the other way around?
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The Oankali = my favorite aliens EVER in sci-fi. Even though they rely too much on messy wetware.
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We won't even mention Piers Anthony. Sex with robots, aliens, unicorns, werewolves, incest, etc. I don't think there's anything his characters won't bone. Even zombie sex.
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Hee hee hee.
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Did I say that out loud?
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11/28/08
Why is the philosophy "pseudo?"
These books have sexual concepts, but I'm not sure they qualify for this post (except maybe IWFNE). By that logic, so would The Bible.