Okay, maybe I just didn't eat enough at Thanksgiving, but has anyone checked out the cookies at GeekyCookies.com? They are so darn cool! They've got PacMan and Ghosts, Mario Mushrooms and Codex's Staff...I want some!!!
@ManchuCandidate: I now have to see that show. I hope they offer roasted turkey legs for everyone in the audience to much on and wave over their heads during the performance.
@ManchuCandidate: "You may be an undigested bit of targ, a blot of grapok sauce, a crumb of krada, a fragment of underdone gladst. There's more of bloodwine than of blood about you, whatever you are!"
Some of the original would follow. A Klingon that values money too much would definitely need a good kick in the pants.
Since the Na'vi have tails, I would think that the tails would possibly be integrated in to the language. Sort of a body language thing. Animals with tails often use them to communicate. But perhaps I am making things far to complicated.
"Why did she slap me? I said she had nice eyes"
"You said she had winged thighs. Nice eyes has a tail swish from left to right, not a twirl"
I think they should stop saying this is going to be the enxt big thing, and wait to see if it actually happens before celebrating. Honestly, it doesn't look groundbreaking.
"It may be too early to start translating Hamlet into the language of Pandora's blue aliens, but it's fascinating to read about Frommer's process and the detail that went into creating Na'vi."
Look, here's an idea. Work on America speaking better English first. I'm not talking about the immigrants either. I'm talking about born in the States, English is my native language, I'll sue first and ask later, I'd rather complain then do anything about it Americans.
When foreigners butcher our language, it can come out as cute (keyword is CAN).
When the "natives" do it, another meme on the internet gets famous.
@SuperTuna: And don't get me started on written English. And not just the horrible English I see on the internet, I've seen college students turn in English papers written in internet shorthand thinking that it was a perfectly acceptable way to write the language.
It's only a matter of time before "ur" becomes the accepted spelling of "your". That will be the day I move to the moon.
@SuperTuna: Usually, with fictional languages, they make sense. That is appealing. Their structure, their rules, their grammar - everything is made up at one time by a handful (or less) people who have a clearly stated goal of creating a language that makes sense. English is the most bastardized, contradictory mishmash of linguistic rules anyone could have possibly assemble over a half-dozen centuries. That's why it works as well as it does, and why it's incredibly hard to teach - it always has been and remains a moving target. Considering how much English has stolen from other languages, I get really tickled at people who want others to treat English as an immobile, stagnate set of linguistic rules. In a few hundred rules, they'll still be calling it English, and we'll barely recognize it.
@korybing: Languages evolve. This is a constant factor. Do you think people sounded like we do 100 years ago. Hell, 20 years ago people sounded nothing like we do. Language evolves over time. That's totally radical to the max!
But, yeah, people who type "ur" instead of "your" or "you're" are fucking retarded. Just look at it as something you can bitch to your grand kids about in the future.
@Rtrain: I don't normally have a problem with the idea of languages evolving, but seeing people type 'lol g2g l8r!' and think it is a completely acceptable form of the language and not just shorthand boggles my mind.
Although I guess I'm not the one to dictate how the language should evolve. I'm sure people like me hated contractions when they first started showing up in the language. It just looks stupid as hell to see someone ask a serious question but write it as "can ne1 help me i need ur help" or "Ur needed ova their! ^_^;;!"
@SuperTuna:Missing comma after "immigrants"; missing word before "born" (probably "people"); commas after "States," "language," and "later" should be semicolons; "then" should be spelled "than"; comma or missing word needed before "Americans"; "Internet" is usually capitalized.
@korybing: It's a weird place to be in. Knowing the logical progression of a thing but still holding onto some idealized precept you still have. I know that language will change, but when it does all the rules i know will be thrown out. I guess it's just a fear response.
Are there any good scifi books that deal with language? I always hate it when someone goes into the future and everyone speaks English the same way they did in the past. Likewise when Germans speak perfect English with German accents in WW2 movies. #socalmeetup
. I'm talking about "born in the States, English is my native language, I'll sue first and ask later, I'd rather complain than do anything about it" Americans.
Sorry - quotes should have been added for clarity. Pretty sure that listings of adjectives should have commas, but it doesn't really matter to me since English isn't my first language and we're on the Internet ;)
@Rtrain: That video is awesome.
As for language, Anne McCaffery dealt with language shift in her pern books briefly, Stargate the movie had a bit in the movie where Daniel couldn't communicate with the Egyptians, and CJ Cherryh has a series in which humans end up on a planet with a species with a language based on math. (That is a awkward sentence). Other then that I can't think of any that deal with the linguistic shift of our language, which is a constant argument in my household. Both parents can't handle linguistic shifts. To finish it off insert preferred joke about Germans speaking English .
@korybing: most of the language on the net, or at the very least a great majority, is in formal and colloquial in nature and the writing reflects that. while i would never use gonna or pro'bly in a formal paper i see no issue using it on the net. what we than have is an issue of dgrees and ppl deciding how far is too far for other people.
What if, one day, we find an alien race(s) that speaks all the made up languages humans have created? It would be just as mind blowing to find one that speaks English though....
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Somewhere the whole theme of helping others in A Christmas Carol might be lost in a Klingon Translation.
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If I had the means, I would fly all the way from Los Angeles just to see this.
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Some of the original would follow. A Klingon that values money too much would definitely need a good kick in the pants.
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"Why did she slap me? I said she had nice eyes"
"You said she had winged thighs. Nice eyes has a tail swish from left to right, not a twirl"
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Wasn't Hamlet originally done in Klingon?
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When foreigners butcher our language, it can come out as cute (keyword is CAN).
When the "natives" do it, another meme on the internet gets famous.
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That's sad on so many levels.
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It's only a matter of time before "ur" becomes the accepted spelling of "your". That will be the day I move to the moon.
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But, yeah, people who type "ur" instead of "your" or "you're" are fucking retarded. Just look at it as something you can bitch to your grand kids about in the future.
#socalmeetup
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Although I guess I'm not the one to dictate how the language should evolve. I'm sure people like me hated contractions when they first started showing up in the language. It just looks stupid as hell to see someone ask a serious question but write it as "can ne1 help me i need ur help" or "Ur needed ova their! ^_^;;!"
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Are there any good scifi books that deal with language? I always hate it when someone goes into the future and everyone speaks English the same way they did in the past. Likewise when Germans speak perfect English with German accents in WW2 movies.
#socalmeetup
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. I'm talking about "born in the States, English is my native language, I'll sue first and ask later, I'd rather complain than do anything about it" Americans.
Sorry - quotes should have been added for clarity. Pretty sure that listings of adjectives should have commas, but it doesn't really matter to me since English isn't my first language and we're on the Internet ;)
Thanks <3
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As for language, Anne McCaffery dealt with language shift in her pern books briefly, Stargate the movie had a bit in the movie where Daniel couldn't communicate with the Egyptians, and CJ Cherryh has a series in which humans end up on a planet with a species with a language based on math. (That is a awkward sentence). Other then that I can't think of any that deal with the linguistic shift of our language, which is a constant argument in my household. Both parents can't handle linguistic shifts. To finish it off insert preferred joke about Germans speaking English .
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