Also of interest is Their Majesties' Bucketeers by two-time Prometheus Award winner L. Neil Smith. It is an adventure of a very alien Holmesian detective. The only book of Smith's that I did not completely despise!
You missed one. Sorry I'm that guy. There was a cartoon in either the 90's or early 2000's that was Sherlock in the future. Watson's female descendant was a police officer who worked with him. Flying cars and stuff. I think he was part of a sherlock holmes museum piece that actually contained him. Holmes then went to work solving crimes that had all kinds of stuff like robots and computers.
@Kevin Howell: Are you sure that isn't Sherlock Holmes in the 22nd Century? Sure, it was a female Lestrade, not Watson, but pretty much everything else checks out.
@coren: I'm one of those ultra-nerdy types who don't consider the Doctor's adventures limited by the television screen. They've met, but only in the books (and there's a reference in an audio, for what that's worth).
"Oh, and Spock quotes one of Holmes's most famous lines in Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country when he says, "An ancestor of mine maintained that if you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains - however improbable - must be the truth", which totally implies Holmes is his great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather or something. You know, come to think of it, I can sort of see the resemblance."
Actually I think this implies Arthur Conan Doyle is one of Spock's ancestors since TNG establishes that Sherlock Holmes is fictional within the Trek universe, pretty sure those episodes of TNG predate ST 6, good try though.
@Cozmic: Yeah, I did realize that far more likely implies a Conan Doyle connection than a proper Holmes link. I just thought it was more amusing to think Spock was a direct descendant of Sherlock Holmes. I mean, there's always the literary agent hypothesis to drag both Holmes the person and Holmes the character into the Star Trek universe.
he's the very incarnation of Sherlock Holmes, no literary allusions needed. And the show is science fiction without the space travel, aliens, or robots.
This is great, but I'm a little appalled that you spoiled "Murders in the Rue Morgue" so casually. But then again, the Baker St. Tube station in London has a huge mural giving away the climax of "Hound of the Baskervilles," so I guess you're in good company.
I am shocked and appalled by the lack of mention of the great short-story collection Shadows Over Baker Street. Holmes and company encountering cosmic Lovecraftian terrors? It's absence is unacceptable, sir.
@Aidan_: I made a bit of a judgment call on Dracula and Cthulhu, two common Holmes opponents, as being somewhat distinct from science fiction and more in the horror category (with a pinch of fantasy, but that's really a different thing too). It's admittedly a gray area though.
OK gang--I believe I can break it down for you as to why Alan lives in a state of high piss-off. Alan Moore is a genius. I know, I know; it's a term bandied about to describe any half-assed purveyor of anything; from Adultery to Zoology (forgive me, Mr. Mencken). But by any measure of quality, Moore is certainly one of, if not the greatest, creators of comic literature in the history of the art. He's responsible, along with his illustrators, for the high-water marks of the form. Genius, as a rule, does not suffer fools gladly. He's living on a slightly different dimensional plane than the rest of us.
He cares deeply for the quality of his art, and when he sees the crapfest which have been every single one of his film adaptations, he becomes understandably incensed. He's also been screwed over by the big companies, little companies, colleagues, mouth-breather fanboys, high sheriffs, and the ever-present censorship christitard asswipe brigade. I'd be a little miffed myself.
@knyne: I agree with most of what you said but VfV was a good adaptation for this age and time despite the few artistic liberties they took. It wasn't really that much of a crapfest as much as The League and Constantine was. He's my favourite comic book writer but that doesn't mean that I'll bow down to every single BS line that comes out of his ass. Because a lot of the time he seems to talk exactly from there.
@Illyria: I understand your point. I tend to be very (sometimes overly) forgiving of the gifted. Moore has said unkind and outrageous things, but I believe it's part and parcel of the sublimely talented; however, I don't think you should toady. Your view is well taken.
My problem with V for Vendetta is manifold: Transforming Evey's character from a waifish semi-urchin to an far more self-satisfied career woman dilutes the character and removes some of the motivation required to drive her decisions; the loss of the Helen Meyer, Derek & Rosemary Almond subplot; the lack of the grand epic sweep needed to see the UK fall into anarchy; and the chopped up exposition of the Larkhill visit by Eric Finch. That said, Hugo Weaving was brilliant and I enjoyed the updated mass media manipulation presented in the film.
@knyne: Also, I thought Moore hadn't seen VfV, or any of the other adaptations. He took his name off of that one because Joel Silver had misrepresented his enthusiasm about it at a press conference, or something.
Alan Moore may be a genius, but he's also kind of a madman.
Which, I guess, lends credence to the proposition.
Why are you so offended about film adaptations of your work. Never in the history of cinema has a film trumped it's novel counterpart....if anything it peaks more interest in the book and makes them all realize how much better your writing is, and why are you so awesome?
Why are you so awesome? What is it like being so awesome? Do you eat Awesome Flakes for breakfast every day or only on days when fresh-baked Awesome Muffins are sold out?
i have a question for io9. where does "Alan Moore knows the score" come from? i first heard it referenced in a Pop Will Eat Itself song and intially thought he was a soccer announcer. time has not quelled my befuddlement.
@Andrew Beck: yeah, but the way they parroted pop culture throughout the song, i figured "Alan Moore knows the score" had to be a pre-existing meme. if it is, i'm too lazy to look it up.
@Mount_Prion: hell yeah bitch! my sister turned me onto them way back when. i can't hear "Def.Con.One." without thinking of her and giggling.
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Actually I think this implies Arthur Conan Doyle is one of Spock's ancestors since TNG establishes that Sherlock Holmes is fictional within the Trek universe, pretty sure those episodes of TNG predate ST 6, good try though.
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he's the very incarnation of Sherlock Holmes, no literary allusions needed. And the show is science fiction without the space travel, aliens, or robots.
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"Wait a minute, Sherlock Holmes is a fictional character. How can Batman meet him?"
It took me a little while to remember, that indeed Batman is also fictional.
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"It took me a little while to remember, that indeed Batman is also fictional."
Since when? Go to google maps and search for Gotham City. Batman's real, I'm telling you. :)
By the way, in 1994 I visited the Sherlock Holmes Museum, in London. It's located, where else, at 221B Baker Street. Awesome place.
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Most amusing part of the gift shop: the poor Sherlock Holmes snuff boxes and pipes that had to be emblazoned with huge SMOKING KILLS stickers.
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[www.gotham-city.com.au]
I really don't think that Bats is down with prostitution. But if I have to investigate I guess I will.
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He cares deeply for the quality of his art, and when he sees the crapfest which have been every single one of his film adaptations, he becomes understandably incensed. He's also been screwed over by the big companies, little companies, colleagues, mouth-breather fanboys, high sheriffs, and the ever-present censorship christitard asswipe brigade. I'd be a little miffed myself.
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My problem with V for Vendetta is manifold: Transforming Evey's character from a waifish semi-urchin to an far more self-satisfied career woman dilutes the character and removes some of the motivation required to drive her decisions; the loss of the Helen Meyer, Derek & Rosemary Almond subplot; the lack of the grand epic sweep needed to see the UK fall into anarchy; and the chopped up exposition of the Larkhill visit by Eric Finch. That said, Hugo Weaving was brilliant and I enjoyed the updated mass media manipulation presented in the film.
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Alan Moore may be a genius, but he's also kind of a madman.
Which, I guess, lends credence to the proposition.
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Also, would you please sign my beard?"
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The Godfather. But yeah, freak occurrence.
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I've yet to see any kind of concrete sourcing on that one.
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It comes from that Pop Will Eat Itself song (Can You Dig It?). The song just lists things from pop culture that they like. It has lines like:
"We dig Marvel and D.C"
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"We dig Optimus Prime and not Galvetron, We dig The Leader of the Pack and the Do-Run-Run, Spinderella and Bruce Lee, The Bad and the Ugly,
V for Vendetta, and Into the Groovy"
and finally
"Bruce Wayne auf weidersehn, Dirty Harry, Make my day,
Terminator, hit the north, Alan Moore knows the score"
I've just always thought of the song as a nerd anthem. Plus it has samples from The Warriors. You really can't go wrong with that.
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@Mount_Prion: hell yeah bitch! my sister turned me onto them way back when. i can't hear "Def.Con.One." without thinking of her and giggling.