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And yes Liev is a talented actor, but was horribly miscast in this....
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You know, what they don't have in fox or marvel films...
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A: You were the only good thing in that last Jack Ryan film which you kind of blew by doing...
B: The Manchurian Candidate remake which was awful and unecessary.
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C: There are scenes in Sphere with you and Dustin Hoffman that if you shut your eyes sounds like a monologue.
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E: Damn you for getting to Naomi Watts ahead of me.
01/20/09
It's not factory work or digging ditches, but quitting smoking and working out and eating boring shit like that probably wasn't a lot of fun.
And he's taking a comic book movie as seriously as all his other roles.
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I have learned one important thing from being on stage crew in high school. It is this: Actors are dicks. It's a selfish job with a ridiculous pay rate. If Liev is getting paid more than half a million to prance around with an open shirt and fake teeth, I'd be okay with him going through some pain for it. Hell, I'd demand it.
To quote The Producers: "Actors aren't animals! They're human beings!"
"They are? Have you ever eaten with one?"
01/20/09
Hear hear! As another former stage crew alum I have to agree. Actors suck. They're a lot of fun to hang out with, but when it comes to work, they have it damn easy and complain ten times as much as they should. So what he gains and loses weight? BFD. Bottom line, you get paid WAAAAAAAY too much for what you do. So effing deal.
01/20/09
Secret stage crew handshake! Everyone else look away!
01/20/09
Actors are perpetual children, make-believe is their life.
Hitchcock's "actors as cattle" becomes clear once you're a techie or director (I've been both).
"The Producers" and "My Favorite Year" are great for crew.
01/20/09
As a professional theatre technician, I really think people who've spent time in high school stage crew can't judge real professional stage actors. They work just as hard as everyone else in the theatre.
Screen actors though? Their job is way easier than the stage.
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Honestly I'm gonna make a blanket statement and say that none of us were really talking about professional stage actors. We might have referenced high school theater, but I was referring to film actors and yes they are dicks. Professional stage actors still have monstrous egos, but at least they work their asses off.
And for the record, my mom is a retired costume designer and yes, I remember the actors and they were nice, but spoiled. And my high school? It was a private school in Hollywood and most of the kids there were actually "real" actors. It made it *that* much more annoying as a production.
@ThisDudeRufus: I think it varies. I know people that pursued it in college and actually got a good gig after. I also know people that knew other people and worked their way up. A friend of mine does makeup for a lot of musicians and she basically went out to L.A. with nothing and made friends to get jobs. I wouldn't recommend that to anyone, but some people just *got* it.
12/22/08
So Tyler Mane can blame Liev for those awful career choices he's been making then.
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I don't think HUGH can pull off an origin story either.
Since they don't really age, what's the biggie here?
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The thing I hated most about the X-Men movies was Wolverine's lame fight scenes. They were too "choreographed", too pristine, too ... ordered. And the claws looked absurd on Jackman's tall frame and pathetic "air slashing" moves. (Can you say "ungainly?)
Wolverine, as depicted in the comic books, was always a tactician--always dodging and weaving--but he was also (especially in the early 90's) drawn with a brutality and animal-like ferocity that the movies just failed to capture. Wolverine isn't Captain America; he shouldn't fight like a martial artist. (The double 'claw flip' thing in X2, when the mansion gets invaded, was just lame, with a capital "L".) He's not Spiderman either, and shouldn't be dancing and doing backflips.
He should be getting in the enemy's face, and tearing through flesh with a bloodthirsty rage. Sure, show some doging, weaving, and leaping--but make sure it's movement that is always moving toward the enemy, with Wolverine showing no regard for the damage he might incur in doing so. He's supposed to be mean, brutal, and impossible to kill. Not "Lord of the Dance With Claws". Even the bathroom fight scene in Kindergarten Cop was more brutal than all of the X-movies combined.
Now, with Sabretooth and Wolverine "in the mix" together, this new movie should be the most brutual blood bath we've seen since Apocalypse Now. But, of course, that won't happen. All of this talk about "dancing" and other choreography just confirms the worst of my fears.
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Well, look. You don't train style to be a good fighter. You train it for a lot of reasons, many of which contribute to being a good fighter.
12/09/08
Schreiber's not saying that he and Jackman are going to actually be dancing. He's just saying that being good at dance choreography translates to being good at fight choreography, so, because Jackman knows how to dance, their fights are going to look awesome.
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Kevin Bacon kicks the crap out of those guys.
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I always thought that Wolverine would have a rather sloppy fighting style, since his healing factor gives him the option of taking a hit in order to get in one of his own. For example, his fight against the spike throwing guy in X3.
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