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    How Los Angeles Destroyed the City of Keeler

    What Will Today's Cities Look Like in the Future?

    Wear Your Hometown Monsters With Pride

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    Image of Wheema Wheema
    09/18/09

    In reply to How Los Angeles Destroyed the City of Keeler
    check out the "lake" on google earth (look at Owens Lake California 93545), thats one of the little townshpis that were founded there and the rest seem to be alive (not how they should be but who said that all of the USA is 100% habitable!)

    Los Angeles screwed over alot but Keeler wasn't anything to start with. Perspective a bit screwed guys.
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    Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. promoted this comment Wheema was starred Wheema was unstarred
    Image of Paul_Is_Drunk Paul_Is_Drunk
    09/18/09

    @Wheema: I did exactly what you said on Google Maps.

    Looked pretty good, actually. Nice, big lake with flowing rivers.

    Then I clicked on terrain. Still looking okay. Something must have been wrong.

    Clicked on satellite. Holy crap. They got screwed over, hard.

    Your argument doesn't fit your evidence.
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    Image of Garrison Dean: R.O.A.C.H. Garrison Dean: R.O.A.C.H.
    09/18/09

    In reply to How Los Angeles Destroyed the City of Keeler
    LA probably did it just to have a cool place to film apocolypse and Michael Bay movies.
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    Image of evildead1971 evildead1971
    09/18/09

    In reply to How Los Angeles Destroyed the City of Keeler
    i have to visit
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    Image of EBone EBone
    09/18/09

    In reply to How Los Angeles Destroyed the City of Keeler
    Forget it Jake, it's Chinatown.

    Try "Cadillac Desert" for those who like to read.
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    Image of Althestane Althestane
    09/18/09

    In reply to How Los Angeles Destroyed the City of Keeler
    This ruined landscape is beautiful in it's own way. Which begs me to ask, are there any photographs or images of this place BEFORE it became a dustbowl?

    AND, how did the lake sustain it's waters in the first place? is there absolutely no chance for the environment to recover its lost state on its own? (albeit, over time)
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    Image of EBone EBone
    09/18/09

    @Althestane: The runoff from the eastern side of the Sierra Nevada mountain range would have to be allowed to flow back into the valley, instead of being intercepted and sent via aqueduct to Los Angeles. Not likely going to happen, short of civilization collapsing, or the ability to spontaneously create water out of nothing for free.
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    Image of the_wiggle the_wiggle
    09/19/09

    @EBone: so destroying the aqueduct is a no go then?
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    Image of EBone EBone
    09/21/09

    @the_wiggle: I think the powers that be in LA would have an issue.
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    Image of Aaron Roberts Aaron Roberts
    09/18/09

    In reply to How Los Angeles Destroyed the City of Keeler
    "Today, Keeler ranks as the second dustiest place on Earth, after Kazakhstan's Aral Sea"

    As opposed to what - places like the Sahara desert? Where exactly did they come up with this statistic?

    In fact, a quick google search doesn't bring up either place as 'dustiest'. The Bodélé depression in the Djourab of northern Chad is listed as the dustiest place on earth by multiple sources - including the science journal Nature. Owens Lake is however listed as the dustiest place in North America by a few sources.

    Of course, being 'the dustiest' is a bit deceptive, because sand and sand storms are excluded from dust and dust storms. If one does not make such an exclusion, this former lake doesn't even come close to top ranking.

    So all this is quite a bit of hyperbole.
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    Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. promoted this comment Edited by Aaron Roberts at 09/18/09 11:59 AM Aaron Roberts was starred Aaron Roberts was unstarred
    Image of Aaron Roberts Aaron Roberts
    09/18/09

    In reply to How Los Angeles Destroyed the City of Keeler
    So now aqueducts and the resulting changes they bring are science fiction?!?!

    Wow - who knew that Roman engineering was Sci-fi!

    Back to the future indeed
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    Image of Cory Gross Cory Gross
    09/18/09

    @Aaron Roberts: Bronzepunk!!
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    Image of akacrash akacrash
    09/18/09

    @Aaron Roberts:
    This falls pretty squarely into 'Terraforming' for me.
    Beyond that, it was an interesting article that I'm glad io9 posted.
    In other words. stfu.
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    Image of gravit8 : just not cool enough for...jalopnik? gravit8 : just not cool enough for...jalopnik?
    09/18/09

    @Aaron Roberts: yeah I'd say transforming an entire region into something else entirely would merit as science fiction, considering some people still believe evolution is unproven and the earth is only X,ooo yrs old...
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    TheLostVikings R.O.A.C.H. promoted this comment gravit8 : just not cool enough for...jalopnik? was starred gravit8 : just not cool enough for...jalopnik? was unstarred
    Image of Aaron Roberts Aaron Roberts
    09/18/09

    @gravit8 : just not cool enough for...jalopnik?: "I'd say transforming an entire region into something else entirely would merit as science fiction"

    When activities which have been going on for thousands of years are called science fiction, it kind of makes the term meaningless. At that point ANYTHING could be considered science fiction.
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    Image of Ruthless, If you let me Ruthless, If you let me
    09/18/09

    In reply to How Los Angeles Destroyed the City of Keeler
    Anybody else aware that Owens Valley residents tried to sabotage the LA aqueduct by dynamite operations?

    I am sure LA water travels further by man-made means than any other water. Thanks Mulholland.
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    Image of EBone EBone
    09/18/09

    @Ruthless, If you let me: The famous Pinkerton Guards were hired to protect the pipeline after that, and were authorized to use deadly force.
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    Image of Life-Without-Buildings Life-Without-Buildings
    09/18/09

    In reply to How Los Angeles Destroyed the City of Keeler
    Check out David Maisel's amazing photographs of Owen's Lake. The colors and shapes are unbelievable. It almost looks like some sort of alien landscape.

    [davidmaisel.com]
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    Image of Ruthless, If you let me Ruthless, If you let me
    09/18/09

    @Life-Without-Buildings: Those reds really POP. Great pictures.
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    Image of ManchuCandidate ManchuCandidate
    09/18/09

    In reply to How Los Angeles Destroyed the City of Keeler
    Somewhere the ghost of Noah Cross is laughing.
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    Image of Dr.Quatermass Dr.Quatermass
    09/18/09

    @ManchuCandidate: Hey now. Leave Mr. Cross alone. He's a respectable and old man. Maybe, one day, you too will be respectable, allowing that you are either a politician an ugly building or a whore.

    Also, thank you for brightening my morning.
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    Image of Sunshineyness Sunshineyness
    09/18/09

    @ManchuCandidate: Heh, that was my first thought as well.
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    Image of phoghat phoghat
    09/18/09

    In reply to What Will Today's Cities Look Like in the Future?

    In a spooky voice, with a flashlight under my chin: "In The Year 2000"
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    Image of Chip Overclock Chip Overclock
    09/17/09

    In reply to What Will Today's Cities Look Like in the Future?
    I live near Golden and work (currently) around 120th and I-25. You and I and Mrs. Overclock (etc.) should get together for dinner sometime!
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    Image of Chip Overclock Chip Overclock
    09/17/09

    @Chip Overclock: (Sorry, fumble fingered that reply.)
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    Image of Boas_MC Boas_MC
    09/17/09

    In reply to What Will Today's Cities Look Like in the Future?
    I think the more interesting shots from Minority Report and I, Robot would have been those that show that much of those cities' current architecture is still very much intact, including brick buildings with exterior fire escapes, etc. Those shots give a much more organic sense of what happens to cities over time, rather than what the shots here imply, which is that somehow cities will be razed to the ground and built back up from scratch. I guess what I'm saying is that in envisioning urban futures, the filmmakers had a more nuanced vision than what these stills give them credit for.
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    Image of hamshank hamshank
    09/17/09

    In reply to What Will Today's Cities Look Like in the Future?
    excuse me: we seem to be lacking the ones where it's the cockroaches riding around on horses, crunching our bones under-hoof ...
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    Image of Ryozenzuzex Ryozenzuzex
    09/16/09

    In reply to What Will Today's Cities Look Like in the Future?

    What about New Chicago?
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