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    Subliminal Messaging Works Best When the Message is Negative

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    Image of Klebert L. Hall Klebert L. Hall
    09/29/09

    In reply to Subliminal Messaging Works Best When the Message is Negative
    The study doesn't actually show that, at all.

    What it shows is that people can respond emotionally to very short stimuli.

    This is only tangentially related to whether or not subliminal advertising is effective; the vast majority of studies show it is not.

    Besides, it's been illegal most places for 50 years.
    -Kle.
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    09/28/09

    In reply to Subliminal Messaging Works Best When the Message is Negative
    Politicians are going to snap this stuff up.
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    Image of NathanSt NathanSt
    09/28/09

    @comics0026: This technique has already been utilized by political advertising.

    [news.bbc.co.uk]
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    Image of Sunshineyness Sunshineyness
    09/28/09

    In reply to Subliminal Messaging Works Best When the Message is Negative
    It always cracks me up when I hear anyone tell me "Oh ads don't work! They never make me want to buy their stuff." It's usually when I roll my eyes and just think "You keep telling that to yourself when presented with a choice in the grocery store you still buy the Coke every time."
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    Image of Xsuit Xsuit
    09/28/09

    In reply to Subliminal Messaging Works Best When the Message is Negative
    That's kind of surprising cause when I see ads like the one's apple has become known for it makes me want one of their products less.
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    Image of Sunshineyness Sunshineyness
    09/28/09

    @Xsuit: They make me want to argue with the TV because PC's are completely what you make of them it's impossible to really claim one is "better" than the other aside from personal preference. And I think Mac gets away with competitor bashing because PC is not really a brand but a type of computer than many different companies make. It's not like they said "Dell" or "Hewlett Packard" and "PC" is not a copywrited term or a company in and of itself.

    And if memory serves in the 80's there was a bit of a scandal with Burger King actually mentioning McDonald's by name in their ads as opposed to just saying "leading competitor" or some such.
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    Image of NathanSt NathanSt
    09/28/09

    @Xsuit: Oh good, buy the Palm Pre: the smartphone for nonconformists.
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    Image of Anekanta - killed by a cacodemon Anekanta - killed by a cacodemon
    09/28/09

    In reply to Subliminal Messaging Works Best When the Message is Negative
    This isn't that surprising. The amygdala is wired to pick up threat and trigger an emotional response long before we're consciously able to control it. The system is evolved to make you run from the tiger springing out of the bushes without you stopping to think about it.

    You have about a quarter of a second for the reaction to take hold.

    This is why certain "news" outlets constantly report stuff designed to make you angry or afraid--to trigger that knee-jerk animal response, and shut off your higher reasoning functions.

    Incidentally, you can learn to widen that quarter of a second and catch your negative emotions before they take over by practising mindfulness meditation or something similar.
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    Image of Perhaps Not Perhaps Not
    09/28/09

    In reply to Subliminal Messaging Works Best When the Message is Negative
    BaGd newLs foEr advertiserNs oNr greaBt newEs foCr advertiserKs, dependinSg oUn hoCw yoKu looSk at it.
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    09/28/09

    @Perhaps Not: I have a sudden urge to watch Olbermann!
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    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    09/28/09

    @crashedpc - unrein: Same here.
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    Image of NathanSt NathanSt
    09/28/09

    @Perhaps Not: Too hard to comprehend, try asserting that this form of propaganda is exactly the sort of thing Fox news would utilize. Thank goodness we have brave heroes like Olbermann and MSNBC.

    And ofcourse ourselves. We're the real heroes in all of this.
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    09/29/09

    @nathanst: I know I am!
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    Image of Scamper Robinson Scamper Robinson
    09/28/09

    In reply to Subliminal Messaging Works Best When the Message is Negative
    Bad news for advertisers? You say this as if they don’t already know that negativity sells products. They’ve known if for a long time now, and I wouldn’t be surprised if someone in advertising didn’t pay for this particular study. Ad execs have known about the importance of psychology — no subliminal imagery required — in advertising since Freud's nephew Edward Bernays coined the term "Public Relations" (another form of advertising) in the late 1920s. They’ve only gotten better at it since then.

    Though we may be besieged by happy imagery in today’s ads, look closer and you’ll see the real intent: to make you feel like you’re missing out on something. It’s negativity at its shiniest.

    I highly recommend Douglas Rushkoff’s book "Coercion: Why We Listen to What ‘They’ Say," which delves into some of this stuff.
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    Image of Hamslicer Hamslicer
    09/28/09

    In reply to Subliminal Messaging Works Best When the Message is Negative
    hmmm, one of the ladies on the cover of the book is horizontal... hmmm.
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    Image of Dr Emilio Lizardo Dr Emilio Lizardo
    09/28/09

    @Hamslicer: I believe that book was being sold to men who thought they could use it to get women horizontal.
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    Image of Hamslicer Hamslicer
    09/28/09

    @Dr Emilio Lizardo: ooh, I get it now! Sneaky bastards.
    Where can get a copy?
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    09/28/09

    In reply to Subliminal Messaging Works Best When the Message is Negative
    Carl Rove and republicans know this strategy very well!
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    Image of SuperTuna SuperTuna
    09/28/09

    In reply to Subliminal Messaging Works Best When the Message is Negative
    I'd link the Super-liminal message from the Simpsons but I can't at work :(

    "Yvan eht nioj!"
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    Image of crashedpc - Haifisch crashedpc - Haifisch
    09/28/09

    In reply to Subliminal Messaging Works Best When the Message is Negative
    Snuggle Bear eats babies. Snuggle Bear eats babies. Snuggle Bear eats babies. Snuggle Bear eats babies.
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    Image of Motoki Motoki
    09/28/09

    @crashedpc - unrein: You know, I always did think that bear was creepy.
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    09/28/09

    ...
    @crashedpc - unrein: I don't know what you're talking about.
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    09/28/09

    @AngryEddy: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
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    Image of RandomFrequentFlierDent RandomFrequentFlierDent
    09/28/09

    @crashedpc - unrein: Well, they are low in cholesterol . . .
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    Image of Chip Overclock Chip Overclock
    09/28/09

    @RandomFrequentFlierDent: Actually, I think they are high fat but low carbohydrates, making them acceptable to the Atkins dieters in the book THE ROAD.
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    09/28/09

    @Chip Overclock: Being a post-apocalyptic cannibal is no excuse to let yourself go and the South Beach diet is hard to maintain after the collapse of human civilization.
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    09/28/09

    @crashedpc - unrein: When I was little, like, toddler age my mother told me that I apparently LOVED the Snuggle ads and thought they were a show and would get upset if someone turned the channel on it.
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    Image of Trai_Dep Trai_Dep
    08/30/09

    In reply to Scientist Writes the "Ideal" David Bowie Song
    So... An AI wrote a Bowie song about a scrum of boys pulling a train on a gaggle of pretties?
    I think the Turing Test finally has competition.
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    08/27/09

    In reply to Scientist Writes the "Ideal" David Bowie Song
    Listen to the song, folks. That IS a Bowie song. Totally believable. Nick Troop should sell them to the man immediately and Bowie should keep the musical arrangement more or less the same. With production values and, well, Bowie himself, this song would get tons of play.
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    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    08/27/09

    In reply to Scientist Writes the "Ideal" David Bowie Song
    The prof may be English, but the lyrics are Engrish. Seriously, they're like the slogans you see on the intarweb collections of foreign products and signs.
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    Image of Grey_Area Grey_Area
    08/27/09

    In reply to Scientist Writes the "Ideal" David Bowie Song
    Paging Dr. Candidate, Dr. The Manchu Candidate. We have a Code Blue in the Intensely Bad Lyrics ward...
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