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It's not just the one of the best animated films I've ever seen, it's one of the best films period.
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Give us Disney's Civil War!
Something that goes along the lines of the "Cheer and Joy registration act" All acts to bring cheer and joy to the public must be sanctioned and it splits Disney characters apart, pitting them against one another. The event culminates in the assassination of Mickey Mouse.
Yeah. Now I'd want to see that.
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A love triangle between Goofy, Donald and Daisy Duck leading to ruffled feathers as Goofy and Daisy fight it out for the affections of the pantless Duck.
Donald Duck is zapped with gamma radiation and morphs into the Incredible Duck.
Beauty and the Beast IX: The Last Stand...for Love
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs: Spidey, Hulky, Rocky (Thing), Stretchy (Reed Richards), Americany, Stabby (Wolverine) and Doc Ock
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I'm pretty sure you could fit the people who'd heard of Iron Man from 1970-1999 into one day's audience of people who went to see the movie.
Comic book fans: over-hyping their medium's popularity since 1960.
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So Disney is probably going by the success of Iron Man and the huge potential successes MS has already mapped out with their future film slate of self-produced movies.
Even before that though, Marvel movies weren't doing too bad financially; Spider-Man and the X-Men movie are crown jewel franchises for Sony and Fox respectively.
And the less popular movies (DD, Hulk, Ghost Rider) were still moderately successful by normal standards. The Blade and F4 movies probably fell somewhere between those 2 levels.
09/08/09
The only thing that immediately struck meas beneficial, and it's a stretch that it is, is Kingdom Hearts 3 having some Marvel Universe in it. That would be awesome, but also wouldn't.
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About you and 1,000,000 other people. I saw that comment so often it started to get annoying.
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Especially since they're most Mickey/Wolvie combos. *le sigh*
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Marvel hasn't put out a decent comic in 20 years? Huh?
I'll give you 10 from just the past few years:
Criminal
Daredevil
Secret Warriors
Powers
X-Factor
Immortal Iron Fist
The Punisher MAX
Annihilation (event)
Annihilation Conquest (event)
War of Kings (event)
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Daredevil: Really? Honestly?
The Punisher MAX: Repeat after me "The Punisher will never be a good character. The Punisher will never be a good character."
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Runaways
Morrisons' New X-Men
Yost's and Kyle's New X-Men
Astonishing X-Men
Brubaker's Captain America
Alias
The Pulse
Wolverine: Origin
Marvels
Target: X-23
Earth-X
NextWave
Incredible Hercules
The Initiative
The Order
Ultimate Spider-Man
The Ultimates vol 1+2
the entire 'Marvel Adventures' line
Fraction's Iron Man
Spider-Man: Tangled Web
Deadpool and Cable
Ellis's Thunderbolts
X-Men: First Class
Wolverine: First Class
and just like your list, those (with the exception of Marvels) are just from the last 10 years as well...
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We're looking at the 70s (at latest) for the last truly great Marvel innovation, I think. Unless we're saying that Darkhawk is in the same echelon as Cap or Spidey...
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Ms. Marvel
Ultimate Spider-Man
Astonishing X-Men v3 (I think? Whedon's Run)
Runaways
Agents of Atlas
Captain Britain and MI: 13
Ghost Rider (Jason Aaron's run)
Hellcat
Deadpool (the run that started with Joe Kelly)
Gail Simone's Agent X
Nextwave, Agents of H.A.T.E.
Super-Villain Team-Up: M.O.D.O.K's Eleven
Thunderbolts (Ellis's run)
PAD's Hulk was less than 20 years ago, wasn't it?
Grant Morrison's New X-Men run
Amazing Spider-Man post-BND has been phenomenal. It's too bad they couldn't think of anything more than OMD to make it what it is, but it's more interesting than any Spider-Man I've read in ages. I find that most of the people who don't like Spidey anymore dropped it with OMD and bitter feelings in their mouths.
...all this is really just post-2000.
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Also, sounds like you've written off the Punisher without ever really reading anything involving him lately.
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But that aside in both of their lists there are a few new ideas in from Marvel. Runaways and Alias always jump to the top of my mind as great new books/characters in last 20 years. The Order was really underrated. The Initiative added a lot of new characters. And of course the awesome Nextwave, but that was mostly made up of existing characters, but it give us the Captain.
I would also split hairs by separating innovation from new characters. The Ultimate line was an innovation at first, if just only consisting of modern retelling of older stories. But it helped bring a lot of people back to comics, myself included.
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Perhaps the discussion is more that the seminal characters in the Marvel universe are product(s) of their time. Or perhaps there isn't the proper impetus for writers to create new characters.
Either way, I have been underwhelmed by the Marvel brand (with a few notable Brubaker-ian (?) exceptions) as of late. This is why I'm not too worried about Disney (destroyer of all things creative) purchasing Marvel (rehasher of all things we did already).
09/08/09
High School Musical was intended as a TV movie with trhow-away actors. It become a much greater hit than Disney intended. Pirate of the Carrabeans was also a movie no one expected very much from it, and it delivered big time! I even happened to like the sequels.
Disney is not worse than any other company. Warner Bros made the friggin Loonatics, for pete's sake!
09/08/09
Even if we ignore, despite their objections, the dearth of interesting comics or good movies from Marvel, that still leaves us with Disney. Do any of these people actually look at any Disney stuff besides High School Musical and Hannah Montana? Y'know, something actually made for people closer to their own age and gender?
Marvel should be so lucky as to have Disney just reboot the whole company. The comics and movies certainly couldn't lose quality.
09/09/09
Well, maybe it would be fairer to say that they haven't come up with an original character in 20 years, except maybe Deadpool and Runaways.
09/09/09
I wouldn't say that they haven't put out anything decent (I liked Vaughn's Dr. Strange mini, the first Eternals mini, and Iron Fist), but I am personally sick of both Marvel and DC's reliance on the BIG EVENT to shore up sales. It seems like every year the Big 2 say "how can we get the fanboys to buy every single one of our titles this summer?"
It's not the lack of innovation that bothers me as much as the shameless cross-promotion.
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Like-em or not Disney is a machine and will squeeze every penny out of Marvel.
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Bishoof! (Bishop + Goofy)
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Seriously, if I owned tons of Marvel shares, I'd be happy with the Disney deal. Who else is willing to spend $4 billion on Marvel?
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