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    Forget The Shiny Toys — Urban Transit Will Go Low-Rent

    The Public Transit Projects that Should Have Been
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    Image of OldDog1 OldDog1
    01/22/09

    In reply to Forget The Shiny Toys — Urban Transit Will Go Low-Rent
    Casual carpooling as it's called has been going on in the East Bay for years. Just swing by certain corners in the morning, pick up two (no more, no less) passengers and drive across the Bay Bridge in the car pool lane. It saves at least 20 minutes on your commute and the bridge toal. I did it for years when I lived in Berkeley and I never had a problem. I never charged my riders a dime. The time and the money they saved me was more than enough compensation.
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    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    01/22/09

    @OldDog1: Yep. Everybody wins. Not having to sit in the toll booth lines saves gas and leads to less smog, so it benefits the whole community, plus savings for you.
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    Image of will will
    01/22/09

    In reply to Forget The Shiny Toys — Urban Transit Will Go Low-Rent
    the real way they get people to give rides in oakland is not, i think, splitting gas cost, but because you don't have to pay bridge toll if there's more than one passenger in the vehicle. american frugality saves the day again!
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    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    01/22/09

    @will: Yep. Carpool lane during rush hour. Faster and cheaper for all. Driver gets in the fast lane, saves time; rider saves bus fare and time.


    A lot of the regulars rideshare with the same people each time, "yep, see ya tomorrow, have a good one".

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    Image of acrobatic rabbit acrobatic rabbit
    01/22/09

    In reply to Forget The Shiny Toys — Urban Transit Will Go Low-Rent
    ...because in the future everyone will wear neon blue Neo-inspired clothing and strike kung fu poses upon entering and exiting their uber awesome new future car!
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    Image of Charlie Jane Anders Charlie Jane Anders
    01/22/09

    @acrobaticrabbit: It's really true! That's the FUTURE!!
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    Image of Moff Moff
    01/22/09

    In reply to Forget The Shiny Toys — Urban Transit Will Go Low-Rent
    No kidding about the injustice of urban transit regulations. Within the past year, if I remember right, New York's taxi commission was lobbying to stop pedicab drivers from putting little motors on their bikes to make it easier for them to go uphill.


    But man, maybe I'm just tipsy on leftover hope from Hope Day, but as the West becomes the East, posts like this one make me feel like we're becoming more willing to adopt solutions that work even if they're not organized in the linear fashion we adore so much.

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    Image of Jo Schmo Jo Schmo
    01/22/09

    In reply to Forget The Shiny Toys — Urban Transit Will Go Low-Rent
    I personally am waiting for teleportation to catch on in this country
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    Image of happysquid happysquid
    01/22/09

    @Jo Schmo *Now with more cholesterol: PLAYER! C-5 me to Cairo, Egypt!
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    Image of Rasselas Rasselas
    01/22/09

    In reply to Forget The Shiny Toys — Urban Transit Will Go Low-Rent
    For example, in Oakland, CA, you can wait near a supermarket parking lot, at a smart carpooling stop, and drivers will come looking for people who need rides into San Francisco.


    Decisions, decisions. Should I go with a Manson Family reference? A Five Easy Pieces reference? A George C. Scott-in-Paul Schrader's Hardcore reference?

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    Image of crashedpc - Haifisch crashedpc - Haifisch
    01/22/09

    In reply to Forget The Shiny Toys — Urban Transit Will Go Low-Rent
    I will NOT accept rides from strangers in Oakland. Freakin kidding me?


    One person vehicles require neon blue trench coats or else entry will be DENIED.

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    Image of Belabras ate my dingo! Belabras ate my dingo!
    01/22/09

    @crashedpc:

    We'll all be waring them in the future anyway, obviously.
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    Image of crashedpc - Haifisch crashedpc - Haifisch
    01/22/09

    @Belabras: But must we wear glowing belt buckles that apparently keep the coat closed halfway?
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    Image of scroggzilla raids again scroggzilla raids again
    01/22/09

    In reply to Forget The Shiny Toys — Urban Transit Will Go Low-Rent
    Personal Rapid Transit, you say?


    Meet the prototype
    [web.presby.edu]

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    Image of corpore-metal corpore-metal
    01/22/09

    @SCROGGZILLA RAIDS AGAIN!!: A good concept!


    But ideally we should just be able to retrofit current cars, streets and highways do this, right? I remember in Rainbow's End, that's how they did it in the end.

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    Image of scroggzilla raids again scroggzilla raids again
    01/23/09

    @corpore-metal: I attended WVU and used the PRT on occasion. The system works pretty well, execept when the power goes out, the windows/doors don't open, it's July and you're trapped with a couple of non-bathing exchange students.
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    01/22/09

    In reply to Forget The Shiny Toys — Urban Transit Will Go Low-Rent
    The reggae bus may not be as fast as the other buses, but they have a better time on the way there ;)
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    Image of crashedpc - Haifisch crashedpc - Haifisch
    01/22/09

    @Belabras: I heard of the miraculous healing powers of the Yanni bus.
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    Image of Mount_Prion Mount_Prion
    01/22/09

    @Belabras: The Disco Bus is faster, and also quite fun.
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