@Smeagol92055: R.O.A.C.H.: That just might put a damper on things, considering that he's a relatively innocent bystander in all of this and I am in my pleasure bunker in Dimension X.
I don't see how this is the only site that likes Transformers 2 over Terminator Salvation. Can someone explain this to me, I am dead serious.
I want to give this site more credit than to hype Transformers just because it has Megan Fox in it. But this is starting to be the only possible conclusion..
The scary thing is, at the end of the book are like ten pages of ads for more T4 related things... including the next book. I need to get my climbing gear; I'm off to the Mountains of Madness.
And why is saving Kyle Reese so important? So that John Connor can send him back in time so that he gets born? Is he going to disappear Back to the Future-style if Kyle dies?
Exactly! If the timeline is totally different, then it wasn't born from Kyle Reese being sent back in the first place. Who knows what would happen if Kyle didn't go back. Maybe Cyberdyne would never have found the Terminator's chip and created Skynet.
@twophrasebark: Hahaha, that would have been truly screwed up. Even though Connor knows damn well Reese is his daddy, he shoots him anyway. Sadistic. And perhaps worthy of a Turtledove-esque ALTERNATE HISTORY edition!
The thing that I found really odd about the Golden Gate Bridge scene was that the toll booths are on the wrong end of the bridge. Perhaps it was an homage to Dustin Hoffman's arrival into SF across the Bay Bridge (on the wrong deck) at the beginning of The Graduate.
@PlaidNinja: Charlie's review of ROTF took the steam out of any insult I could muster against the film. T4 still has at least another few weeks of hilarity.
@Grey_Area: Do you remember how excited we all were when we got our books? "Oh man, I can't wait to see how one of our most favoritest authors ever is going to make T4 one of the best novelizations we have ever read"? Remember that funny feeling inside when you realized that was the biggest pile of horseshit ever? Ah, memories.
@Grey_Area: I was thinking about reading that, as I recently discovered its existence after happening to acquire a copy of the Han Solo Adventures for free. That good, then?
@Belabras Voted 5: See, I read the book and fell in love with the universe, played the games and decided they were fun, but had nothing at all to do with the books. also, I was trying to figure out what anything I was doing had to do with any of the overarching plotness, and whether the Halos were deathstars or stargates.
@Pessimippopotamus is at 0% productivity: I get funny looks when I say it, but I totally agree. Even the tone and feel of the SF is spot on, and something somewhat rare for the form.
Wasn't it implied that the Forerunners were just humans a Long, Long time ago? They went through the ringworld to a new Floodless universe. Maybe? I only read the first book and played the games, none of them made any sense after the first.
@ggodo: They created the flood, built the rings to contain them, stored all the DNA to all life in the galaxy into said rings, built uber death laser into rings so when activated it would wipe all life (now flood infected), including themselves from the galaxy and seed it anew.
The one huge flaw is why bother to preserve the thing you're trying to kill?
@Finstern: The biggest flaw was that despite destroying all sentient life in the Galaxy, the Flood still survived, making the Halo event pointless. Maybe they could only be contained, and not destroyed?
I'm sure he'll delve into the origin of the Flood as well.
@Finstern: It's theorized they had the flood in containment while studying them, but ran out of time to eliminate the few they had locked up due to unforeseen reasons (maybe they had to activate the rings sooner than they anticipated?). This of course resulted in the flood escaping and running rampant on Delta Halo (from Halo 2) well before humans/Convenant landed there, though how a Gravemind formed and then sat waiting for thousands and thousands of years on that particular installation is something I still don't quite understand....
@TehLastTimeLord: I think gravemind probably started out as an infected sentient and then over the thousands of millennia he fed off plants (constantly regenerating) and stuff to survive. what is crazy is that he formed on delta halo and once you gets off it hes suddenly in command of all the flood in the galaxy.
If you read all the terminals in halo 3 you get a glimpse of an AI that seems to be infected by the gravemind, really interesting stuff.
@Finstern: I thought the Gravemind could only form after infecting a significant amount of sentient life? Also, it's not surprising that it's in command of all the Flood, I suppose - they basically went right on the warpath against the Covenant and then Earth as soon as they got off the Halo, never having time to really sit back in one spot/spots and create multiple creatures (unless I missed something, or I'm completely wrong).
I also thought the AI came to the conclusion itself to do what it did during the Forerunner's Great War, and then had 100,000 years to repent and feel remorse and stuff. Hm. I'll have to re-read those terminals.
@Finstern: Then what happened in Halo 3? where the hell did the Chief go? Where did you get that information? I don't recall it being anywhere in the games, but they really aren't known for they're storytelling.
@TehLastTimeLord: I think you definatly understand the gravemind more than I do lol but I'm definitely sure there were two A.Is in the game and one was going to the dark side.
@TehLastTimeLord: I don't know about the Gravemind issue, but there's at least a narrative logic to the Flood's survival. When there's a weapon meant to destroy all of life, probably the safest place you can hide is on the weapon itself.
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I want to give this site more credit than to hype Transformers just because it has Megan Fox in it. But this is starting to be the only possible conclusion..
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A rag-tag group of survivors from Judgement Day are huddled in the ruins eating rats saying things like, "I sure hope John Connor shows up soon."
"Yes, his soothing radio voice will inspire us all to fight for humanity's future."
"You there, boy! Have you knocked up John Connor's mom yet?"
What did the boy say?"
"He said not to expect Connor today, but that he would arrive the next day."
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"Oh my goodness, where DID you get those slacks?"
"Eh, I scrounged them from the ruins of Neiman Marcus off of the partially eaten body of a hobo."
"Oh, Kyle!"
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Exactly! If the timeline is totally different, then it wasn't born from Kyle Reese being sent back in the first place. Who knows what would happen if Kyle didn't go back. Maybe Cyberdyne would never have found the Terminator's chip and created Skynet.
Maybe Connor should have shot Reese on sight.
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I'm not touching that one at all.
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I read that Foster wrote the entire novel and then had to throw it out because the entire script changed. So maybe his heart wasn't in it?
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Now...I will watch the movie again because it has Terminators in it and because Sam Worthington is so darn cute!
Compared to Transformers, this movie was fantastic.
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Wow kid, you got a lot of moxie!
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As for the film being humorless... why is that such a bad thing?
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No worries, we all had a hard time reading it, silk pantaloons or no.
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Oh, it's a good read. Especially if you like a little brother/sister action.
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The one huge flaw is why bother to preserve the thing you're trying to kill?
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I'm sure he'll delve into the origin of the Flood as well.
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If you read all the terminals in halo 3 you get a glimpse of an AI that seems to be infected by the gravemind, really interesting stuff.
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I also thought the AI came to the conclusion itself to do what it did during the Forerunner's Great War, and then had 100,000 years to repent and feel remorse and stuff. Hm. I'll have to re-read those terminals.
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