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I thought Sarah's reasoning was faulty. She implied, and tried to convince Cameron, that John sent her from the future because he wanted her away from him (presumably because he stopped trusting her), but it might as well have been because he trusted her so much that he actually wanted her with him sooner, that is, from an earlier time in his life.
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weaver is not on the side of the humans at all, she has no regard for life as she's demonstrated over and over...my theory is that her war might be with Skynet in terms of a power struggle for control...skynet is a self aware machine, but T-1000's can evolve, which places them higher on the food chain...skynet is scared about the whole thing...john conner being a cleaver guy things he can play both ends against the middle...
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Wow. Good ideas.
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Good nylons aren't cheap, y'know.
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• I was wondering how the sub story could have played out had Jesse not intervened. If the answer was "No" what would that liquid metal terminator have done to Connor when they met? Was that a deliberate plan to kill Connor? Why would the reply be expected in the form of a package to be retrieved?
• I'm also thinking that liquid terminator was Weaver - no reason to expect it would not survive till that time frame.
• They have clearly indicated some divide in the Skynet world. This supports the idea that several commentors have posted that Weaver was developing her own alternate AI.
• But we also saw that clearly Weaver is not on the side of humanity - so if she is making an alternate AI it does not appear that it would be a beneficent one. That would bear out here being the liquid terminator replying "No" in Jesse's story.
• When Weaver converses with John Henry its just like a terminator speaking to a human. John Henry smiles and is hopeful, he emotes. Weaver is deadpan. Still not sure where that's going.
03/22/09
That's my 2 cents.
03/22/09
Hmm. Good thinking. I tend to agree with you on this.
Overall, best episode of the season to date.
And notice how the best episodes are the one that have Sarah in them the least?
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It's not like she was in any danger from them.
That's my two cents.
03/22/09
The tragedy is that everyone's actions throughout the sub sequence make sense. Even poor Queeg, who got caught in Hal's dilemma.
03/23/09
I guess that's what they were going for, but it seemed kind of "lite" to me on the your behavior gave me the answer I was looking for shtick.
I totally agree about the HAL dilemma Queeg got put into.
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I was wrong. With this ep, I'm a big fan of Green's and Dekker's work.
The writing is superb (I think what clinched it for me was the Terminator Hiding Since The Jazz Era episode onward). I'm heartily impressed that the writers cast so many clues about Conner having Riley doubts across so many episodes across the season without the need to point them out. I also like, as Charlie does, the themes covering what is human, what is not and what happens to humanity when it becomes so enmeshed with artificial intelligence.
Oh, and what a great way to open the episode:
"How long would you last in a room with Cameron if she wanted you dead?"
"Only as long as she liked."
...Then letting that exchange percolate until Conner, much later, revealed he know about Riley for quite a long time.
Quite the episode, and what's showing to be, quite the series!
03/22/09
And the metaphor of the sub's hothouse environment standing in for living in a John Conner future was inspired.
03/22/09
We saw a glimpse of the man and leader John Conner is supposed to become. In the end though, it's his mother's lap he cries on, not Cameron's.
Jesse knows Cameron, but would this Cameron have recognized Jesse since they're not from the same timeline?
Weaver is just preparing contingency plans. If Ellison or any other employee becomes a liability, she's ready with a "generous severance package".
Is Weaver (if that was her in the box) part of a future rogue machine faction? If it wasn't Weaver in the box is there another liquid metal terminator around somewhere?
03/23/09
Well, we know that Skynet tried to wipe out the human race (it's kinda the whole basis). We know that it didn't succeed, or it wouldn't be sending Terminators back after John. We can assume that it's eventually destroyed in most timelines, as it is very likely on the verge of losing each time it sends another Terminator back.
Now, Skynet (and by extension, John Connor) has been operating on a 1/0 basis, where 1=win and 0=lose. Each side is trying to destroy the other. Weaver, on the other hand, seems to be teaching John Henry to become human-in-spirit. While she, too, is doing the 1/0 thing (she's pretty lethal when any given plan goes south), there is evidence that she, or whoever she was sent by, has at least conceptualized 2=coexistence. If Skynet does come into existence with a humanized concept of right and wrong, then perhaps there won't be all-out war...or at least not in John Connor's lifetime.
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From what I have seen - it's either Cameron or another character stating Connor's orders. Connor has been off-camera.
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To my knowledge, this was the first episode to show us what kind of weapon power the humans have in the future, a plasma rifle that can take out a T-888 with one shot.
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Of course the 2027 Conner in this episode, heh, if he's even alive, is not exactly inspiring trust in his soldiers by trying to cut deals with un-reprogrammed cyborgs. I don't know if there's some sort of creative embargo with he new movie coming out, but I'd love to see the John from this show in the future.
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A show about John Henry would actually be a show about a a grown man playing and painting little toys. Would you really want that? Lol.
But seriously, he's great. He always keeps me interested in what he has to say.
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WEAVER: And what did you find?
JOHN HENRY: Beastwizard VII has had a significant increase in DVD sales since George Laszlo was believed to have killed 20 FBI agents.
WEAVER: That is interesting.
JOHN HENRY: Do you think I could be Beastwizard?
WEAVER: No. George Laszlo is dead.
JOHN HENRY: That is unfortunate. I enjoyed Beastwizard VII.
03/23/09
Oh great jeebus, you _nailed_ it.
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