The first time I saw a pitch for Project Entropia, it had casino gambling. In theory, you could convert your RL money to Entropia money and lose it all in an imaginary casino. You could also theoretically "make a living" with activities like mining... provided you could buy mining equipment with an investment of RL money.
I don't know whether those features are still in the final version, but a banking license to manage those transactions makes sense... and it's also rather scary. When you own a virtual casino, you can set the odds however you like....
@ShubNecktie: as opposed to brick and mortar casinos? there's no casino anywhere, real or virtual, where the odds in every game are not stacked in the house's favor. if the odds of winning aren't high enough no one will play but clearly there are takers even when the odds are stacked against them or there would be no casinos.
@tetracycloide: Do the laws that apply to the odds in brick & mortar casinos apply to virtual casinos?
The odds are always stacked in favor of the house, but it's easier to rig a game in a virtual world than in the physical world... isn't it? Who enforces the odds in a virtual casino?
@ShubNecktie: it may or may not be easier for a player to rig a game in the virtual world than the real world but i would think for the house that rigging a game is equally easy in the real and virtual worlds. getting away with it is another question and enforcing laws might be harder in the virtual world but most of the difficulty there usually stems from issues of jurisdiction.
somewhere? this macroeconomist right here is getting aroused by this.
so, in theory, the game company pays you to play by offering you the opportunity to withdraw currency from the game world after some kind of value additive action. i'm interested in seeing what kind of rates you can pull per hour.
opportunities for triage in other MMOs i've witnessed are quite rampant. i wonder if the assumption is that they will quickly fix themselves or if they will automatically fix them or if there is no allowance for addressing this issue.
does allowing a minor to play the game constitute child labor? does paying for sex with in game currency constitue prostitution? does scamming someone in game constitue fraud?
@tetracycloide: Virtual services, virtual money. (Kotaku had a story about this recently.) It's all virtual, until virtual money is converted into real money.
@ShubNecktie: i was thinking real services, virtual money. i'm inclined to belive it would be harder to prosecute under those circumstances, especially when you consider the bank records for transactions via this MMO in particular would be in sweden.
I remember signing petitions, and saying I would boycott the first Daniel Craig Bond film. Of course, I ended up watching it twice at the cinema in the first week - Don't believe the hype!!!
@MISS MERCY STREET: Rourke was going to be in IM2 for all of about 10 minutes. He would've been on set for a matter of days. His role was to have been bigger in IM3. The L&O guys you mention, work 10-14 days to film one episode, so that seems to be in line with Rourke's salary given the time he would've spent on the IM2 set.
Cancel all the future spinoffs and just do one big movie at a time. That'll straighten things up. Just rehire everyone from the first movie, that'll lessen the casting problem too.
Of course, this sounds obvious, but it seems like common sense has left Marvel long time ago. When you consider Elektra and the first Hulk, it makes perfect sense.
@Pessimippopotamus Parkingtonius: Marvel Studios only made 2 fims so far: Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk. The other movies were Marvel properties, but they were done independantly by other studios (Fox, Paramount, SOny, depending on the case.) Why do I always have to remind people of this??? Sigh;(
@collex: Did I say Marvel Studios? In the end, Marvel was the one who initiated the projects. If it couldn't correctly direct the studios it hired, isn't it still its fault?
I guessing this casting mess has more to do with the sky high costs of superhero/comic book movies in relation to the current economic disaster we are facing.
It cost $130-180 million (according to wiki.) Who the fuck has (probably) $150-200 mill required for the sequel? In the past they would have no problem because they knew they were guaranteed an audience. Now? I highly doubt that thanks to the rapid shuttering of the world economy so no finance guy worth his Ferrari is going to take that big a risk.
So, they must pare down the budget. The largest budget chunk of a Hollywood movie is the stars, producer and directors cuts. If you can replace the secondary characters with cheaper actors then you will because you're not going to cut the stars (even though they probably should) or the SFX.
Considering the ways things are going, I'm beginning to have doubts that this movie will even be made.
@ManchuCandidate: I'm tending to agree with you. A lot of these actor changes are for budget reasons. More than half of this movie is going to be special effects, and those are a expensive.
Cutting back on secondary actors is a smart choice. Terrence Howard is not a loss. I prefer Don Cheadle personally. Not sure how I feel about losing Samuel Jackson, as I think I've seen him enough, and he isn't much of a draw to me. Also, he's a bit of an ass IRL.
I just paid $15 for a ticket for Watchmen, so I'd personally like to see some cost cutting in these films.
I've argued the same thing about Dark Knight and Iron Man. I think DK was a better film, but Iron Man was a better comics adaptation. It's kind of a toss up though. Personal opinion.
Honestly, I'd rather see Jackson back than Rourke. Even if Crimson Dynamo is the main villain, Rourke isn't exactly A-list. Yeah, I know, the Wrestler is supposed to be amazing. So go do Brokeback Mountain 2 if you want to show off acting talent. This is an action movie. You don't need Sir Lawrence Olivier to deliver the lines.
03/19/09
I don't know whether those features are still in the final version, but a banking license to manage those transactions makes sense... and it's also rather scary. When you own a virtual casino, you can set the odds however you like....
03/19/09
03/19/09
The odds are always stacked in favor of the house, but it's easier to rig a game in a virtual world than in the physical world... isn't it? Who enforces the odds in a virtual casino?
03/19/09
03/19/09
so, in theory, the game company pays you to play by offering you the opportunity to withdraw currency from the game world after some kind of value additive action. i'm interested in seeing what kind of rates you can pull per hour.
opportunities for triage in other MMOs i've witnessed are quite rampant. i wonder if the assumption is that they will quickly fix themselves or if they will automatically fix them or if there is no allowance for addressing this issue.
does allowing a minor to play the game constitute child labor? does paying for sex with in game currency constitue prostitution? does scamming someone in game constitue fraud?
03/19/09
Do you mean arbitrage?
03/19/09
interestingly enough in most of the MMOs i've seen the opportunities for triage are also quite rampant.
@ShubNecktie: when you say 'virtual prostitution' do you mean paying for virtual services with virtual money or tactile servicies with virtual money?
03/19/09
03/20/09
03/19/09
Calyps-o, Cal-ah-lyps-o
Pay check come and me wan' go MMO
Calyps-o, Cal-ah-lyps-o
Pay check come and me wan' go MMO
Work all night on a drink of (Mountain) Dew
Pay check come and me wan' go MMO
Surf on Net till de Pay check come
Pay check come and me wan' go MMO
Come, Mister Banker man, Bank me entropia
Pay check come and me wan' go MMO
Come, Mister Banker man, Bank me entropia
Pay check come and me wan' go MMO
03/19/09
02/22/09
I remember signing petitions, and saying I would boycott the first Daniel Craig Bond film. Of course, I ended up watching it twice at the cinema in the first week - Don't believe the hype!!!
02/23/09
02/21/09
Low-balling Rourke is ridiculous.
02/21/09
02/21/09
02/21/09
Of course, this sounds obvious, but it seems like common sense has left Marvel long time ago. When you consider Elektra and the first Hulk, it makes perfect sense.
02/21/09
02/21/09
02/21/09
Marvel didn't "hire" them.
The studios paid Marvel to let them make movies based on their properties.
02/22/09
02/21/09
It cost $130-180 million (according to wiki.) Who the fuck has (probably) $150-200 mill required for the sequel? In the past they would have no problem because they knew they were guaranteed an audience. Now? I highly doubt that thanks to the rapid shuttering of the world economy so no finance guy worth his Ferrari is going to take that big a risk.
So, they must pare down the budget. The largest budget chunk of a Hollywood movie is the stars, producer and directors cuts. If you can replace the secondary characters with cheaper actors then you will because you're not going to cut the stars (even though they probably should) or the SFX.
Considering the ways things are going, I'm beginning to have doubts that this movie will even be made.
02/21/09
Cutting back on secondary actors is a smart choice. Terrence Howard is not a loss. I prefer Don Cheadle personally. Not sure how I feel about losing Samuel Jackson, as I think I've seen him enough, and he isn't much of a draw to me. Also, he's a bit of an ass IRL.
I just paid $15 for a ticket for Watchmen, so I'd personally like to see some cost cutting in these films.
02/21/09
Honestly, I'd rather see Jackson back than Rourke. Even if Crimson Dynamo is the main villain, Rourke isn't exactly A-list. Yeah, I know, the Wrestler is supposed to be amazing. So go do Brokeback Mountain 2 if you want to show off acting talent. This is an action movie. You don't need Sir Lawrence Olivier to deliver the lines.
02/21/09
Also Pick up a copy of "Once upon a time in Mexico" on your way out.
Come back when you have some perspective.