This just looks great. Yes its going to be like Marmite..either love it or hate it. But the technical skills behind this will be astounding. They've already hired the tech to Tron Legacy!
Personally, im a big fan of Cameron and I can kind of forgive True Lies (if only for the OTT wing walking scene). This will be fantastic, mesmerising and very enjoyable. Will I like it? Yes!! Will I care what the nay-sayers say? Balls no! Do I care enough to go mental and scream in forums about how much this will fail BEFORE ive even see the film.? Ahem* lets not be silly..of course not!
@Yamato: Nah!! I jest. True Lies was infact a very cool film for all the wrong reasons. Its a film that logic dictates I shouldnt like. But god-damn...I just cant help myself.
You know what I love about Avatar? I'll tell you what I love about Avatar. Avatar is the new Blu-Ray. Techies and gadget-philes raved about it for a while but the mainstream public couldn't care less. Finally, when people started to get interested in it, they would watch a Blu-Ray video on television and complain that it looked no different. I repeat, the Blu-Ray commercials they saw on their regular television set looked no different.
Of course Avatar isn't wowing us the way it is supposed to right now, we are watching clips of it on a computer screen -- a 2-D computer screen.
Who cares if the story is extremely derivative. We are in the science fiction business people. Derivatives are our bread and butter.
@Dr.Quatermass: Who cares if the story is derivative, lets watch pretty graphics? I'll admit that a lot of scifi is derivative, but I like scifi despite that and feel it's a huge flaw. I watch scifi for those brief moments when it's not. Those that are 100%, like warehouse 13, I don't. It's also why I read more scifi than I watch, certain authors can be counted on to have more original ideas in their stories.
Having both Shatner and Nimoy would have been too much. I think they had to make a choice and they chose correctly. Spock was connected to the plot and Nero's needlessly complicated revenge, Kirk was not. The Shatner monologue would have seemed tacked on, especially the way it was written as a holographic projection. Spock Prime traveled back in time by accident, why would he have such a trinket with him?
At the same time, maybe they should have had Shatner record the scene so they could have cut down on some of the grousing from his corner. At least he could say that yes they filmed a scene with him but cut it for time.
@Hunter2458: I actually read the scene on TrekMovie.com which has more of it, including the description of Shatner-Kirk's words being delivered by a holographic Kirk emitted by a holo-emitter. [trekmovie.com]
@NerD: Blattella: Well, since I didn't see either Transformer movie I can complain if the writing is lame. I'm not expecting Shakespeare but all these expensive effects should be in service of a decent story.
@NerD: Blattella: I saw both Transformers movies for three reasons:
- Optimus Prime
- Bay'splosions
- Giant Robots fighting
The story? Naw, not at all. But it didn't get in the way of my enjoyment of any of the three things mentioned (Ok, Megan Fox did, I don't need fanservice when two giant robots are gonna duke it out!).
What keeps me from wanting to see Avatar? Simple, it's Dances with Smurfs. It nags at me. I don't want to pay to see these scenes:
- where Joe main character(MC) starts to identify with the Smurfs.
- where some Military Brass starts yelling at Joe MC and tells him "It's us or them"
- where Joe MC tries to bring the Smurfs and humans together for a peace and it goes horribly wrong and the humans kill more smurfs, and wounds and possibly kills smurfette
- the inevitable final battle where Joe MC fights for smurfette.
Even if only half of those scenes appear in a mangled form, a voice in the back of my head will taunt me with "Dances with Smurfs, It's Dances with Smurfs, you paid to see Dances with Smurfs." endlessly while watching it.
Visuals can't make up that. All the great visuals didn't save Titantic from being an utter bore.
It doesn't matter how good the writing of the story is as long as it doesn't keep me from enjoying the rest of the movie.
I'm so excited! The Road is the kind of book where I won't mind if they make changes in adapting it to a movie.
I pretty sure that it wasn't a nuclear disaster in the book, but I'm still going to spend a lot of the movie worrying about their exposure to radiations (No! Don't drink that! It's +10 rads/sec). I blame Fallout 3.
@Traveshamockery: It doesn't really specify in the book. I've always assumed multiple meteor impacts worldwide. It's the explanation that makes the most sense given the available information.
@RandomFrequentFlierDent: Why do you think it wasn't nuclear in the book? It doesn't specify it, but it seems clearly a nuclear-winter scenario (yeah, meteorites would do that as well), and well... they wouldn't talk about radiation because there's nothing they can do about it. Also, It doesn't need to be radioactive everywhere for there to be a nuclear winter, just several big explosions that release enough dust
@cletar: I'd recommend it. It's a nice story and a fast read. If you like post-apocalypse settings (admittedly I'm a huge fan of the genre) you should enjoy it.
We cut to Spock Prime who is having a mochachino in the spacedock STARBUCKS. He is suddenly overcome by a feeling that his old friend has returned. He watches the Enterprise roar out of spacedock.
I think I want to see it less than ever, but I will still go if only to keep my geek cred. The whole scene was long and drawn out and still feels like they're trying so hard to impress that I think "Enough already! Story please?"
And as he was running with his tail flapping I kept wondering why he didn't tuck that tail in a bit so it wasn't like the cats in every cartoon that grab the mice by their tails. It also made me wonder how they get their pants on in the morning. I had a hard enough time getting my kids into clothes when they were babies. Can you imagine having to reach back and deal with an unmanageable tail every morning? So glad I'm not blue.
@TotalFanGirl: ... I was expecting something like the huge blue cat with very pointy teeth would grab the ugly ovegrown blue mouse by the tail, but then I remembered it's a Cameron movie. The man is very serious about himself.
I can see interest in the tail, though. You could grab things while both your hands are already occupied. It's just another appendage - if it's prehensile.
Or maybe I'm just mistaking the Na'avi with Nighstalker from X-Men.
@Heriloke: But if it were prehensile and you were fleeing a giant beastie..wouldn't you move it out of the way instead of letting if flap around behind you to tease the giant blue beastie? Or at least use it to snap said beastie in the snout and delay it a millisecond?
@TotalFanGirl: Remember he's a man wearing a blue cat body. He didn't grow up with a tail and his brain isn't used to the extra body part. If he doesn't consciously think "I've got a tail I can use" it probably would be flapping around.
@Ghost_in_the_Machine: Okay, I will concede he's a man in a blue cat suit. But, he's not -just- a man he's a Marine so shouldn't he be thinking outside the box (or human body in this case)?
@TotalFanGirl: When he's had more time in the body he might start thinking about his tail. I think he just forgets he has one. Maybe being around the natives and seeing them use their tails will help.
Besides, it's probably like using your non-dominant hand. It doesn't feel right, you don't do it naturally and it takes more attention to what you're doing.
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Personally, im a big fan of Cameron and I can kind of forgive True Lies (if only for the OTT wing walking scene). This will be fantastic, mesmerising and very enjoyable. Will I like it? Yes!! Will I care what the nay-sayers say? Balls no! Do I care enough to go mental and scream in forums about how much this will fail BEFORE ive even see the film.? Ahem* lets not be silly..of course not!
Lets give this film a chance.
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And Jamie Lee-Curtis is bloody hot HOT!!!
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Of course Avatar isn't wowing us the way it is supposed to right now, we are watching clips of it on a computer screen -- a 2-D computer screen.
Who cares if the story is extremely derivative. We are in the science fiction business people. Derivatives are our bread and butter.
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At the same time, maybe they should have had Shatner record the scene so they could have cut down on some of the grousing from his corner. At least he could say that yes they filmed a scene with him but cut it for time.
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I love the arguments I keep hearing on this site and others about this movie.
This movie will make bank. The question is: will it make New Moon money?
Oh, and all of you who are complaining about writing, and went to go see any Transformers movie can eat a big steaming bowl of STFU.
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I'm not expecting Shakespeare either. I'm expecting a lot of nice visuals and a moderate plot.
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- Optimus Prime
- Bay'splosions
- Giant Robots fighting
The story? Naw, not at all. But it didn't get in the way of my enjoyment of any of the three things mentioned (Ok, Megan Fox did, I don't need fanservice when two giant robots are gonna duke it out!).
What keeps me from wanting to see Avatar? Simple, it's Dances with Smurfs. It nags at me. I don't want to pay to see these scenes:
- where Joe main character(MC) starts to identify with the Smurfs.
- where some Military Brass starts yelling at Joe MC and tells him "It's us or them"
- where Joe MC tries to bring the Smurfs and humans together for a peace and it goes horribly wrong and the humans kill more smurfs, and wounds and possibly kills smurfette
- the inevitable final battle where Joe MC fights for smurfette.
Even if only half of those scenes appear in a mangled form, a voice in the back of my head will taunt me with "Dances with Smurfs, It's Dances with Smurfs, you paid to see Dances with Smurfs." endlessly while watching it.
Visuals can't make up that. All the great visuals didn't save Titantic from being an utter bore.
It doesn't matter how good the writing of the story is as long as it doesn't keep me from enjoying the rest of the movie.
And I hated the Smurfs.
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I pretty sure that it wasn't a nuclear disaster in the book, but I'm still going to spend a lot of the movie worrying about their exposure to radiations (No! Don't drink that! It's +10 rads/sec). I blame Fallout 3.
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I never read the book, by the way. Should I? Should I read the book then see the movie, or vice versa?
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FEDERATION COMMANDANT
Who are you?
SHATNER
It's me! Kirk. Give me the keys. We're going to the second to star to the right and straight on till morning.
FEDERATION COMMANDANT
You're not Kirk.
Shatner headbutts Tyler Perry.
SHATNER
I don't believe in the no-win scenario.
We cut to Chris Pine gagged and bound in a Starfleet bathroom making muffled noises. We again hear SABOTAGE and cut to the Enterprise warping away.
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SPOCK PRIME
Close enough.
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SPOCK PRIME turns around, and we see his face. He has a goatee.
SPOCK PRIME laughs. Fade out.
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Seriously, someone get these guys on the writing crew for the sequel.
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And as he was running with his tail flapping I kept wondering why he didn't tuck that tail in a bit so it wasn't like the cats in every cartoon that grab the mice by their tails. It also made me wonder how they get their pants on in the morning. I had a hard enough time getting my kids into clothes when they were babies. Can you imagine having to reach back and deal with an unmanageable tail every morning? So glad I'm not blue.
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I can see interest in the tail, though. You could grab things while both your hands are already occupied. It's just another appendage - if it's prehensile.
Or maybe I'm just mistaking the Na'avi with Nighstalker from X-Men.
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Besides, it's probably like using your non-dominant hand. It doesn't feel right, you don't do it naturally and it takes more attention to what you're doing.
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