@Annalee Newitz: It's actually illegal to not at least consult him on any production that has a musical number in it. Joss Whedon had him perform a blessing on the script for the Buffy musical episode before it was filmed.
Broadway sucks.Look at all their bright ideas...remind you of corporate YARM Hollywood.
what a bunch of losers making musicals of films instead of writing new original musicals. #carrie
The first Addams Family movie was really weak. Addams Family Values succeeded largely because of a brilliant script by Paul Rudnick (who also wrote "I Hate Hamlet" and the first draft of "Sister Act"). I don't know if he has a hand in this - he's done a lot of broadway work - but Rudnick's other productions have been niche successes at best ("Jeffrey"), historic flops at worst ("Isn't She Great" and "The Stepford Wives"). I hope he's involved because I want more fast witty Addams-worthy dialogue, but even if he is, this project scares me. #carrie
I approve of most of the casting - I really, really do, in the case of Bebe Neuwirth - but Nathan Lane has *got* to stop getting cast in wholly inappropriate roles in revivals. Seriously; the man destroyed the revival of _The Man Who Came To Dinner_ that screened on Great Performances a few years back, he was the second-worst thing about the _The Producers_ musical movie (the script was the worst - it's a shambling zombie, compared to the original) ... and now he's Gomez?
Lane is an accomplished actor, but he's found his star character, and *it bloody isn't* Gomez Addams ... either John Astin's Gomez or Charles Addams's original cartoon Gomez, which Raul Julia did an impressive job playing. Astin's Gomez is one of the great, great, great characters of sitcom history ... he goes from cheerful to lustful to enthusiastic to bizarre without changing gears or breaking character *at all* ... and since it's Astin's Gomez that, pretty much, established the concept as a viable property for stage and screen, you have to at least acknowledge that performance when you do it. Julia's Gomez did that, but played it darker, straighter, with more attention paid to the outright sadism of the Addams cartoons.
Lane, on the other hand, took the role of Sheridan Whiteside, one of the great, big, sadistic, gleeful, cheerful, whiny, demanding roles, a role that demands only the best in scene-stealing power from the actor portraying the character ... and turned him into a petulant child. Sheridan Whiteside is ... well, evil and manipulative, not because he IS evil and manipulative ... as _The Man Who Came To Dinner_ shows us at the end, he's decent at heart ... but because it's so damn much fun. Lane can have fun with a role, but it's not a *big* fun ... his schtick is a kind of timid I-can-be-big-but-I-don't-have-to-be-please-please-please-like-me thing.
Now, if he could get away from his traditional performance, and disappear into the character, as he did at times with Timon, he might be able to not hurt the performance ... but he's not just Nathan Lane, actor, now, he's Nathan Lane, STAR, and he *WILL* use his traditional star role, as he did in _The Man Who ..._ ... and this show will be the worse for it. #carrie
@capnrob: Is Lane's "go-to-guy" status because of better professional aptitude for stage, or is it because he is positioned in such a way (read: a good agent)? His ubiquity has stepped over the line of matching actor-to-role.
I imagine a harried theater production would try to court a "proven earner" and tailor their show to a Big Man like Lane versus gambling on a name that must prove stage-value (Mrs. Tom Cruise?), or an unknown who has stage-chops but doesn't carry star-power (eg. who is this delicious Susan Egan?) Either way, don't Broadway productions behave sort of entitled to themselves? More incestuous than Hollywood I imagine, and fiercely territorial.
One certainty: Bebe Neuwirth. Ohyes. #carrie
@gods-n-clods: I'd add a phrase there: "A proven earner _who's actually willing to do live theatre_." Many big name actors aren't interested in doing the seven shows a week (or whatever it is now) thing, I suspect. George S. Kaufman wrote a piece on the subject a few decades back, and even went so far to include a bit in _Hollywood Pinafore_ where the bad guy threatens a rising starlet with forcing her to appear on stage ... and that was written in a time when the relative power of Broadway was much, much higher in comparison to Hollywood than it is now.
I can only imagine that Lane is, indeed willing, and is probably the biggest name they can get. It is a pity, though, that, say, Alan Tudyk isn't a big enough name to headline this.
Er... not quite. Ranson, Foster, Mazzie and Damiano are in a reading of Carrie. Most readings are either for charity or for some producer's education about how the musical sounds and rarely make it to the stage. And in the rare instances when they do become full productions, those productions almost never have the same cast. So no, Carrie is not coming back to Broadway, where, as you note, it has already been, so it can hardly be amping up for its "debut" even if it was definitely going to be produced.
Thanks to Nathan Fillion. He's always good to let the fans know what's going on. And that's how I found Dr Horrible to begin with...on Nathan's MySpace page.
@Anekanta - Go Play!: I say we go the Buckaroo Banzai route and have a separated-at-birth twin named Peggy! Dr. Horrible vs The World Crime League anyone??? :-D #drhorrible
@MargaretMoony: damnit margaret, I said zombie felicia day and I didnt even see you mentioned it before me :( my thunder has been stolen... #drhorrible
As happy as this makes me, am I the only one that's kinda, well, fretful? One of the things i find so intriguing and amazing about "Dr. Horrible", is that it is this wonderful, encapsulated tale! It constructs itself, plays itself out, and resolves itself succinctly, leaving the audience with a great little story and a lot of things that they can mull over. It's a flash of awesome, and that naturally makes us want more awesome, but i wonder if fans confuse that with wanting more-of-the-same versus wanting similar quality but something different.
Bottom line: I don't want to see "Dr. Horrible" stretched thin. Joss is talented enough to maybe make a sequel a fresh, stand-alone work, but I'd be just as happy, if not more-so, with an entirely new sing-along-blog. #drhorrible
@Althestane: I kinda felt the same way about Futurama. they ended it on an awesome note, then they did the more episodes/movie thing? more Futurama is always good, right? but I think I could have lived without the movies... #drhorrible
Obviously the next Dr. Horrible will be a completely green screened story set in a hell dimension where Penny's soul unintentionally ended up because of the weird dimensional lenergy flux caused by the malfunctioning deathray . Both Dr. Horrible and Capt. Hammer (for very different reasons) will be in the hell dimension and will end up competing to see who can rescue her soul so she can finally rest in piece. It will be kind of like a mashup of "What Dreams May Come", the Buffy musical episode and one of those 1980's unexpected buddy road trip movies with Kurt Russell and Kid Rock. #drhorrible
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what a bunch of losers making musicals of films instead of writing new original musicals. #carrie
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Lane is an accomplished actor, but he's found his star character, and *it bloody isn't* Gomez Addams ... either John Astin's Gomez or Charles Addams's original cartoon Gomez, which Raul Julia did an impressive job playing. Astin's Gomez is one of the great, great, great characters of sitcom history ... he goes from cheerful to lustful to enthusiastic to bizarre without changing gears or breaking character *at all* ... and since it's Astin's Gomez that, pretty much, established the concept as a viable property for stage and screen, you have to at least acknowledge that performance when you do it. Julia's Gomez did that, but played it darker, straighter, with more attention paid to the outright sadism of the Addams cartoons.
Lane, on the other hand, took the role of Sheridan Whiteside, one of the great, big, sadistic, gleeful, cheerful, whiny, demanding roles, a role that demands only the best in scene-stealing power from the actor portraying the character ... and turned him into a petulant child. Sheridan Whiteside is ... well, evil and manipulative, not because he IS evil and manipulative ... as _The Man Who Came To Dinner_ shows us at the end, he's decent at heart ... but because it's so damn much fun. Lane can have fun with a role, but it's not a *big* fun ... his schtick is a kind of timid I-can-be-big-but-I-don't-have-to-be-please-please-please-like-me thing.
Now, if he could get away from his traditional performance, and disappear into the character, as he did at times with Timon, he might be able to not hurt the performance ... but he's not just Nathan Lane, actor, now, he's Nathan Lane, STAR, and he *WILL* use his traditional star role, as he did in _The Man Who ..._ ... and this show will be the worse for it. #carrie
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I imagine a harried theater production would try to court a "proven earner" and tailor their show to a Big Man like Lane versus gambling on a name that must prove stage-value (Mrs. Tom Cruise?), or an unknown who has stage-chops but doesn't carry star-power (eg. who is this delicious Susan Egan?) Either way, don't Broadway productions behave sort of entitled to themselves? More incestuous than Hollywood I imagine, and fiercely territorial.
One certainty: Bebe Neuwirth. Ohyes. #carrie
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I can only imagine that Lane is, indeed willing, and is probably the biggest name they can get. It is a pity, though, that, say, Alan Tudyk isn't a big enough name to headline this.
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wow...that's great casting...
Lilith FTW! #carrie
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Now we just need Neil Patrick Harris. #drhorrible
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Fangirl time...SQUEE! #drhorrible
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I really should be a co writer with Joss Whedon ;) #drhorrible
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Bottom line: I don't want to see "Dr. Horrible" stretched thin. Joss is talented enough to maybe make a sequel a fresh, stand-alone work, but I'd be just as happy, if not more-so, with an entirely new sing-along-blog. #drhorrible
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So consider this a rumor of a rumor. #drhorrible
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Obviously the next Dr. Horrible will be a completely green screened story set in a hell dimension where Penny's soul unintentionally ended up because of the weird dimensional lenergy flux caused by the malfunctioning deathray . Both Dr. Horrible and Capt. Hammer (for very different reasons) will be in the hell dimension and will end up competing to see who can rescue her soul so she can finally rest in piece. It will be kind of like a mashup of "What Dreams May Come", the Buffy musical episode and one of those 1980's unexpected buddy road trip movies with Kurt Russell and Kid Rock. #drhorrible