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    The Most Fantastical Cities On Earth, As Chosen By Ursula K. Le Guin And Michael Moorcock

    10 Movies That Would Make Awesome SF Novels
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    06/17/09

    In reply to The Most Fantastical Cities On Earth, As Chosen By Ursula K. Le Guin And Michael Moorcock
    I guess this list leans more towards fantasy-looking cities as opposed to science fiction-looking ones?
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    06/17/09

    In reply to The Most Fantastical Cities On Earth, As Chosen By Ursula K. Le Guin And Michael Moorcock
    China Miéville's pick seems totally unsurprising. New Crobozon is Dickensian London viewed through 5 hits of bad windowpane.
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    06/17/09

    In reply to The Most Fantastical Cities On Earth, As Chosen By Ursula K. Le Guin And Michael Moorcock
    Haha. Leguin is fun to speak to on the phone. She's super energetic and sweet and clearly has spoken to way too many interviewers in her time because she's got it down to a science.


    Also she loves Mieville's work. She nice!

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    06/17/09

    @Pope John Peeps II: Also, can someone explain why anyone ever liked Michael Moorcock's work?
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    06/17/09

    @Pope John Peeps II: Arioch!
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    06/17/09

    @Rasselas: Eh yeah. I know he's a big name in influence, and I know he set some fantasy standards, but I just never ever liked the quality of his prose fiction. Just always hit me as sort of.... well, childish I guess.
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    06/17/09

    @Pope John Peeps II: The prose in the Pyat books, Mother London and The Brothel in Rosenstrasse is substantially better than the speed-written Eternal Champion stuff and the more recent Elric books, I think, but de gustibus.


    Also: Everyone Loves Arioch! Tuesdays on Nickelodeon, after SpongeBob!

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    06/17/09

    In reply to The Most Fantastical Cities On Earth, As Chosen By Ursula K. Le Guin And Michael Moorcock
    I can get down with Marrakesh.
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    06/17/09

    In reply to The Most Fantastical Cities On Earth, As Chosen By Ursula K. Le Guin And Michael Moorcock
    I find the list rather dull. I can see the reasoning behind all of their choices- but it just seems rather "old school" in the way they came to their conclusions.


    I agree with you on HK, though, CJA.

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    06/17/09

    @Plague: What does that even mean? "Old school"?
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    06/17/09

    @Pope John Peeps II: @Pope John Peeps II: Just the Cornelius books alone should answer that question, aside from all the people he influenced.
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    06/17/09

    @Pope John Peeps II: It means what they hold in high regard and of worth seems rather dated.

    But I'm sure you knew that.
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    06/17/09

    @Plague: Yeah, but I don't understand. You're talking about cities. What's "not dated" about cities.


    There's no city that's like.... 35% cyborgs. I mean... You can only like certain things about cities. Are you really complaining? Or is this just a "I'm young, and old people SUCK! REVOLUTION!" kind of complaint.

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    06/17/09

    @Pope John Peeps II: Sorry, replied to the wrong post...


    As I'm not what you would consider young, that is certainly not it. As I said, I see the reasoning behind their choices, but they seem to lean to the scholarly and historical and less to the fantastical in my opinion. A city like HK, where you seem to be in a different world on each corner, is more to my way of thinking of a "fantastical city". That's all.

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    06/17/09

    @Plague: Okay. But you're just doing what they're doing, right? Projecting the times and themes that you consider to be "the future" and then writing that onto a city? I don't see a lot of difference between what Hopkinson and Mieville are saying about their choices, and what you're saying about yours.


    I guess it all comes down to what you consider the future to be. I mean, Leguin projects far far forward, looking at the degeneration of advanced societies, and their fight against sloughing down, so she'd obviously love Venice as a symbol.

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    06/17/09

    @Pope John Peeps II:

    Oh, yes. It's entirely a personal preference.
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    06/17/09

    In reply to The Most Fantastical Cities On Earth, As Chosen By Ursula K. Le Guin And Michael Moorcock
    I have been to only three of the five. I'd say that Hand overstates the alien qualities of Reyjavik; once you've been there a few hours, it starts to look pretty normal, albeit squat, but the minute-to-minute life in Venice is a pretty surprising contrast to the experience of anybody not from Venice.
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    06/17/09

    @Rasselas: I loooove Reykjavik. Love it. I completely understand why a large percentage of the population believe in fairies. It feels slightly temporary and a little too new, and with all of the gorgeous surroundings it's one of the only places I get the feeling that nature could easily reassert itself and just skitter human habitation right off the island.


    It just feels entirely different to me, and I've been to a lot of places -- Reykjavik is a place I return to a lot.

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    06/17/09

    @limber: The feeling of nature in abeyance only increases when you leave Reykjavik and see the rest of the landscape: blasted volcanic fields, endless mossy valleys, etc. It's pretty memorable.
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    06/17/09

    @Rasselas: It's one of my favourite places to drive, too, if you're mainly on primary roads. Very smooth.


    And to be utterly touristy, it's stunning to hang out in the Blue Lagoon, then climb that flight of stairs and look out on what appears to be a lunar landscape.


    Of course, that's leaving out the recent trend of exploding Range Rovers for insurance money and everyone owing fishermen-Viking-bankers millions of kroner (does the kroner even exist anymore?)

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    03/10/09

    In reply to 10 Movies That Would Make Awesome SF Novels
    "between Pygmalion and" ..and what?? For some reason, I HAVE to know.
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    03/10/09

    @scifiMD: Oh crap. The end of that sentence got eaten! Fixing it....
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    In reply to 10 Movies That Would Make Awesome SF Novels
    pft. im sorry, the fountain was not an underrated masterpiece, it was bloated, self-indulgent, and poorly executed. pi would be a far, far, far more interesting read.
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    03/09/09

    In reply to 10 Movies That Would Make Awesome SF Novels
    What a neat article idea. Thanks, Charlie!
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    03/09/09

    In reply to 10 Movies That Would Make Awesome SF Novels
    Unless I'm missing my guess...


    12 Monkeys was a written story before it became a movie. It wasn't an original idea of Gilliam, he just expended it a bit.

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    03/09/09

    @dOk:


    No, 12 Monkeys was NOT based on a short story. It was based on an earlier short film, "La Jetee."

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    @MinervaAlpaca: Which was based on an episode of The Flintstones.
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    03/09/09

    Okay, maybe not.
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    03/09/09

    In reply to 10 Movies That Would Make Awesome SF Novels
    One of the best novels I read was The Abyss by Orson Scott Card. It was pretty much the movie, but more. And more in substance, not things that could have been explained on screen.
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    03/09/09

    In reply to 10 Movies That Would Make Awesome SF Novels
    Oh, how about a novel set as a sequel to Blade Runner by K.W. Jeter?

    No, that actually happened and really sucked.
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    03/09/09

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    WHAT?! This is an OUTRAGE! How could a mere novel ever capture the filmaker's vision? How would they do the special effects, the soundtrack...ARRRGH! PEKING. DUCK...

    Hee, hee, hee.


    Hell, I dunno, Liquid Sky by John Shirley? Nah, too obvious.

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    03/09/09

    In reply to 10 Movies That Would Make Awesome SF Novels
    Cormac McCarthy's *Eraserhead*
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    03/09/09

    @4ndreVV: Wow, that would be something.
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    03/09/09

    In reply to 10 Movies That Would Make Awesome SF Novels
    Didn't Elizabeth Hand do 12 monkeys? What was that like?
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    03/09/09

    @zerofish: Really? I thought I searched to make sure none of these movies actually had a novelization.
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    03/09/09

    @zerofish: Oh man, you're right! I am crestfallen. [www.amazon.com]
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