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    Image of redqueen redqueen
    12/02/09

    In reply to Learn The Craft Of Novel-Writing From Walter Jon Williams And Nancy Kress
    Pretty sure that guy in the illustration likes adverbs. He's clearly smoldering intensely.
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    Image of PostMarque PostMarque
    12/02/09

    In reply to Learn The Craft Of Novel-Writing From Walter Jon Williams And Nancy Kress
    every freakin workshop in the world is scheduled at the worst possible time for my day job.

    please someone put a high quality workshop on during the second week of the months of spring.
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    Image of LittleDragon LittleDragon
    12/02/09

    In reply to Learn The Craft Of Novel-Writing From Walter Jon Williams And Nancy Kress
    This really depresses me. I wish that I could have been an author.

    (she said sadly)
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    Image of TotalFanGirl TotalFanGirl
    12/02/09

    In reply to Learn The Craft Of Novel-Writing From Walter Jon Williams And Nancy Kress
    I am happily sitting her, watching the trees blow furiously outside my window while my child plays noisily behind me and wonder why adverbs are treated so harshly?
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    12/02/09

    @TotalFanGirl: Yeah, stop sitting on your child. The poor thing.
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    12/02/09

    @Starwatcher: How else am I supposed to get her to sit still?!
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    12/03/09

    @TotalFanGirl: Xanax cookies?
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    12/03/09

    @Slatz_Grobnik: They make those? Excellent!
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    Image of Starwatcher Starwatcher
    12/03/09

    @TotalFanGirl: It's all relative. If you move faster than she does, it'll look like she's sitting still.
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    12/03/09

    @Starwatcher: Just like that Star Trek episode where they move so fast they're just a little buzzzzz...
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    Image of braak: You are, as usual, completely correct. braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.
    12/02/09

    In reply to Learn The Craft Of Novel-Writing From Walter Jon Williams And Nancy Kress
    Those guys can go to hell. I'm never giving up my adverbs.
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    Image of k386 k386
    12/02/09

    @braak: he said angrily
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    Image of braak: You are, as usual, completely correct. braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.
    12/02/09

    @k386: ::Shakes fist. Furiously.::
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    Image of Magicant Magicant
    12/02/09

    @braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.:

    How else would we write Tom Swifties?

    "I need a pencil sharpener," said Tom bluntly.
    "I only have diamonds, clubs and spades," said Tom heartlessly.
    "I manufacture tabletops for shops," said Tom counterproductively.
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    Image of braak: You are, as usual, completely correct. braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.
    12/02/09

    @Magicant: Oh, man, that last one is pretty good.
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    Image of Belabras Belabras
    12/02/09

    @braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.:
    He defied them... defiantly.
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    Image of goldfarb goldfarb
    12/02/09

    @braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.: yeah, what's with the adverb hate?
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    Image of braak: You are, as usual, completely correct. braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.
    12/02/09

    @goldfarb: Man, I don't know, but shit like that always makes me extremely suspicious. Agents do the same things. "Oops! We don't use that part of speech around here." It makes me feel like no one really knows what they're talking about.
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    Image of goldfarb goldfarb
    12/02/09

    @braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.: haha...especially when all you have to do is grab a copy of /insert great book here/ and flip to a random page and say "See? Adverbs!"
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    Image of queensowntalia queensowntalia
    12/02/09

    @goldfarb: I think the point is you should be able to tell how a character is feeling through his behavior or the manner of his speech, rather than the adverbs the author chooses to use. In my writing classes (alabeit poetry, but I think the rule extends some) it was often stated, "show, don't tell." If you say someone does something angrily, or hurredly, you're telling what they're doing rather than creating an image in the reader's mind.

    But maybe I'm wrong. What the heck do I know?
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    Image of goldfarb goldfarb
    12/02/09

    @queensowntalia: sure, that's a good point...but I think it's reasonable to say that most parts of speech, like adverbs, developed because they are useful...so to arbitrarily reject their use is a bit silly...but all things in moderation I guess...
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    Image of Moff Moff
    12/02/09

    @queensowntalia: That is exactly the point. But it's also more of an ideal one should aspire to than a hard-and-fast rule that should keep you from typing the letters l and y ever again.
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    Image of Dr Emilio Lizardo Dr Emilio Lizardo
    12/02/09

    @queensowntalia: Thank you for concisely explaining why zestfully using adverbs is bad.

    Do you have Stephanie Meyer's home phone number?
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    Image of braak: You are, as usual, completely correct. braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.
    12/02/09

    @queensowntalia: Yeah, but doing something "hurriedly" does create an image in the reader's mind. It is a word that implies a set of associated conditions, the way all of the words do.

    I hate "Show, don't tell," too, because it seems basically antithetical to the nature of writing a novel.

    Whatever, I don't care, I'm just tired of all these guys and their fucking rules, man.
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    Image of queensowntalia queensowntalia
    12/02/09

    @goldfarb: I think they work better in conversation than in storytelling, in general.

    But yeah, in the excerpt above they don't say you should NEVER use them. :)
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    12/02/09

    @braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.: Totally!
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    12/03/09

    @goldfarb: A hammer is a useful tool in general, but not so much for the specific task of cutting a wedding cake. Yeah, it can probably kind of get the job done if you use it enough, but it's messy and hardly the optimal solution. Unless, of course, you prefer sugary pulp.
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    Image of fungol fungol
    08/11/09

    In reply to Hugos 2009: The Fashion, The Fervor And The Suspense!
    Can we please get Ted Chiang to write awesome stuff full time already?
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    Image of jaylake jaylake
    08/11/09

    In reply to Hugos 2009: The Fashion, The Fervor And The Suspense!
    That was a fun party...
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    08/11/09

    @jaylake: It sure was! Despite the lack of free drinks... :)
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    Image of Alessar Alessar
    08/11/09

    In reply to Hugos 2009: The Fashion, The Fervor And The Suspense!
    Arggh. So that's where Cthulhu snuck off to the other day. And who is that woman he's hanging out with?
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    Image of ProgHead777 ProgHead777
    08/11/09

    In reply to Hugos 2009: The Fashion, The Fervor And The Suspense!
    Am I seeing things or is Neil Gaiman fellating his hugo in that one pic?
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    08/11/09

    @ProgHead777: They pointed that out in the article: "our gallery (including Neil Gaiman licking his Hugo rocket!) is below."
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    Image of PostMarque PostMarque
    08/10/09

    In reply to Hugos 2009: The Fashion, The Fervor And The Suspense!
    oh and Cory Doctorw = kind of hot
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    Image of Palmerlime Palmerlime
    08/11/09

    @PostMarque: Forget him... I'm all a tingle over CJA's dress, there. Mrrrrowwwwwrrrr, sister.
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    08/11/09

    @Palmerlime: if you go for the pretty/clever type done up in flattering colours and shapes... yes i can see the tingle sensation description being valid.
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    08/10/09

    In reply to Hugos 2009: The Fashion, The Fervor And The Suspense!
    i am so glad that no real magic exist, cause if just the tinest spark of magic was in that room - you know we would all be doomed a very terrifying, horridly long suffering death that would be very poignant sad and at times witty to the observer.
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    Image of Rasselas Rasselas
    08/10/09

    In reply to Hugos 2009: The Fashion, The Fervor And The Suspense!
    It's a rare writer, genre notwithstanding, who looks cool in candid photos.
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    Image of Grey_Area Grey_Area
    08/10/09

    @Rasselas: But they tend to look better than photographers. It's some sort of cosmic joke.
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    08/10/09

    In reply to Hugos 2009: The Fashion, The Fervor And The Suspense!
    Hurm.
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    Image of Perhaps Not Perhaps Not
    08/10/09

    In reply to Hugos 2009: The Fashion, The Fervor And The Suspense!
    Neil Gaiman has only one step to to before he truly achieves literary greatness, and that is being denounced by Harold Bloom. C'mon, Hal. "King John" is a shitty play. Cormac McCarthy is a hack. GET MAD, DAMMIT!
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    08/10/09

    @Perhaps Not: Hee, hee, hee!
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    08/10/09

    In reply to Hugos 2009: The Fashion, The Fervor And The Suspense!
    I would have preferred Neal over Neil for the Best Novel, oh well.
    Congratulations to Everybody!
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