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Star Trek’s Cheap-Looking Aliens May Be More Plausible Than You Think
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(Oh, biochem isn't boring, but it should be called chembio!)
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For shame! There is nothing more fascinating nor relevant than the study of tea and soup-making! Especially Primordial Soup.
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Not only is it unlikely, imho, that even the very mechcanism of evolution to work the same elsewhere (eg, dna, sex), its also highly unlikely conditions will be simerla to earth.
Higher gravity, less light, more like, more foggy atmosphere, a heck of a lot more water...a heck of a lot less water.
The potential combinations are endless, and it took a very specific set of combinations for form us.
The fact that simerla things evolved simerla traits on this planet isnt that astonishing when you think that we arnt a species in isolation.
Theres millions of species of earth, each one effects others.
If the majority of the enviroment is the same both chemicaly, atmosphericaly, and biologicaly...then yes, simerla things probably would evolve.
But thats a far flung thing from saying a completely different world where *everything* starts independantly from us would end up even remotely simerla.
Limited imagination I put it down too.
Personaly, I'm kinda sceptical we would even recognise alien life. For all we know it might have lifespans of a ten thousand years and move in such a slow way as to be unnoticable to us.
Or maybe the "life" exists as merely an arrangement of slow forming crystals in a cave, it can reflect light about to communicate, and forus light to help alter its enviroment and help grow itself....but it cant "move" at all.
Those are just off the top of my head.
Life...at least, self-replicating things with the potential to evolve...could be absolutely beyond what we have thought about. Maybe what we can think about.
We have a sample range of just 1 planet.
Not enough to make good conclusions.
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I type quick and clicked the wrong shortcut rather then spell check.
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Have you ever read Feersum Endjinn by Iain M. Banks?
You could be Bascule the Teller. Eds a gr8 buk. He iz mi heeraux.
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We evolved the upright stance when the forests of East Africa turned into savannas allowing us to see over the tall grasses and freeing our forelimbs with those kicky opposable thumbs to do more than grasp tree limbs and manipulate our genitalia. We started picking up rocks to throw at leopards and poking things with sticks.
After some very messy R&D with wildfire we learned to carry enough fuel to feed and keep our new glowy friend happy and useful. The next thing you know it's Superbowl Sunday and we're microwaving nachos to eat with our giant fyborg foam hands.
It may be a specious and speciest argument but the whole bilateral, two arms, two legs, with a sensory cluster/nutrition intake port on top seems the most reliable plan. But there's a lot of wiggle-room for the appearance of those structures. A dolphin and an icthyosaur may fit the same basic model but they still are very different looking creatures.
I always appreciated Babylon 5 for going the extra light-second to make all the different humanoid species more varied. I think LiC is right about Star Trek's make-up policy. Make 'em a bit different but preserve the T&A, pandering to sweaty fanboys.
Nose ridges blow.
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Tenticals.
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Also, evolution has resulted in much crazier designs than most people could imagine. Pistol Shrimp? You're also falling into an anthropocentric fallacy. The only kind of intelligence or civilization that counts is one that's similar to ours.
There is a parable about a man who had never met a woman. When he finally did, he was amazed at how similar they were and how capable the woman was. He was upset because he had thought he was the greatest kind of thing in the world. And then he realized something.
He went back to his friends and said to them: "Women are almost equal to us, but they can never something we can do: see their faces. Since we have an ability they lack, we are clearly superior." It never occured to him that he couldn't see his own face, and the woman could.
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Sure Evolution (Hallowed be thy Name, all praise Darwin!) has a dazzling range of possibilities. But which of them are most likely to make tools, build shelters, and threaten brave Earthian Star Commanders in malevolent Alien ion-powered Battleships?
Humanoids, that's who, hands (with opposable thumbs) down.
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As for intelligent life? The only conditions are tool building, ability to make fire (sadly no aquatic squid people), and an environment suitable to both farming and shelter building.
Fire isn't a big one, but it does remove the upper limit. Sea based life could become incredibly advanced and complex, but they'd never make computers.
It is entirely conceivable that life on other planets would evolve from their versions of dinosaurs. Many people forget that if not for that one cataclysmic event the history of our planet would be very different.
Oh, and no insect life. Gravity places pretty strict limitations on that.
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It's easy on TV to make everyone breathe the same mixture of N2, O2, Ar, & CO2. However, in biology form follows function, and that may necessitate different structure.
This is slightly off the point, but it's generally assumed that we'd all be able to communicate as well. Having learned 2 other languages, there is no way a "universal translator" would work. Language is as much history as obscure phrases that computers can't translate without knowing that language first. Even then it's never a 1 for 1 translation.
That is also ignoring different moving vocal parts to create sounds.
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