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As far as I know, some of the earliest instances of characters being pointedly identified as being Jewish were DC's Ragman and Golem. And the fact that none of you have probably read anything starring them (I actually own the 1991 Ragman miniseries, but I think that's it) should tell you how well that worked for them...
@ElijahDProphet: You do realize that the Vertigo line is technically part of the main DCU, right? So everything that happens in a Vertigo title could easily be witnessed by Batman or Superman, if they just happened to be wandering through. The only difference is that they use a different imprint to signify that they're not kid-friendly. And I'm not sure if they're CCA-approved like the regular DC titles.
But yeah, Ragman is definitely Vertigo-fare, based on the nature of his powers alone. However, the miniseries predates the Vertigo imprint, so but for a bit of timing it might have actually happened.
Of course Superman is Jewish, he been forever hording all those valuable crystals in his Fortress of Solitude doesn't he?
Zing!
Other notable Jewish superheroes:
Kitty Pryde, The Thing (yea, really!), Batwoman (the current lesbian one). The Atom (Palmer, not the Asian one obviously), Doc Samson, Wiccan, and Nite-Owl II (Watchmen)
Well, Clark Kent was raised in Kansas. According to [www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org] 0.7% of the population in Kansas is Jewish, and that's as of 2006 (if I had to guess), so I'm sure that it was lower when Superman was raised. Statistically speaking, Superman was probably not Jewish. In addition, since he's not human, he obviously can't be genetically related to the Chosen people.
I mean, just because Superman's creators were Jewish doesn't make him Jewish. I give you, it's possible, but there really isn't an indication (that I'm aware of) either way.
@Platypus Man: Dude, this has to be one of the stupidest arguments I've ever seen written out. What percentage of that population were aliens from frigging Krypton? My college roommate Mike was a Jew from Kansas. Or have you just convinced me that he wasn't? "Statistically speaking (Mike) was probably not Jewish." OK.
And the point isn't that Superman was actually a Jew- he isn't- he's a Kryptonian. Period. However, it is easy to conclude that his creators drew on their own Jewish-American experience in their conception of an outsider immigrant from a special race who assimilated and became a mighty American hero. And yes, these themes have been minimalized as other artists developed the character according to their visions.
@daviddonne: Man, it's a friggin' joke. I'm not actually trying to argue anything. Internet arguments are stupid enough, let alone arguments about Superman's religion on the Internet.
Here here, enough with the messiah analogies in comics and storytelling.
Superman is just a Jewish man, who was given to Earth by his father to be raised by a common couple who receive him under mysterious circumstances, who would grow up to have unbelievable powers that he would use to try and make the world a better place. Then he was killed by an evil power and came back to life a short time later. But he most certainly isn't Christ.
@Belabras: The X-Men was a mirror of what was happening with civil rights in the 60's. To me Professor X and Magneto represented MLK and Malcolm X, respectively. One pacifist, the other antagonistic, with both wanting the same equal rights for their people.
Who was this guy again? After seeing the pic, I thought the Haitian from Heroes was doing a guest spot or something. Must not have been that scary if I don't remember a character from a show I own every season to.
In a lot of ways, the Lost "writers" are just ultra-pretentious nerd idiots. Naming characters after philosophers and mythological beings for no other reason than to reference them and make the show seem smart.
@Pope John Peeps II: well, i do think they take into account the origins of the name in relation to roles the characters play... not saying they're NOT ultra-pretentious, but i wouldn't call them idiots... it's sort of a fun game for the trivia-happy, nerdy viewers out there (of which i might be part of... X])
@Susie Suh: That's the thing, it's just a novelty. The names have little to nothing to do with the characters. They're just thrown in so that you will THINK they do, and be amazed and enthralled by the unstoppable mental juggernaut that is lost.
This is obviously a spoiler, but I believe he won't be back until episode 7, titled "The life and death of Jeremy Bentham". See spoilerslost.blogspot.com if you want more details.
@stchoo: wow are you calling Abaddon a liar. Mr. Abaddon I in no way shape or form have anything to do with this comment. *backs away slowly* Aw, I'm kidding maybe it is the 7th.
@vurtscribe: Those things got reprinted often but there are many so-cool UG comix that are incredibly rare. I Used to have 2 long boxes filled with such gems as Greg Iron's Light, Tales of the Leather Nun, the complete run of Slow Death and Dr. Atomic, plus Harlan Ellison's Chocolate Alphabet. Grodd damnit, I had the original Fritz the Cat and Air Pirate Funnies!
My @!#$%&!! speedfreak roommate stole them all and lit out for Arizona in '96. Ah, well I would probably never have sold them anyways.
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You do realize that the Vertigo line is technically part of the main DCU, right? So everything that happens in a Vertigo title could easily be witnessed by Batman or Superman, if they just happened to be wandering through. The only difference is that they use a different imprint to signify that they're not kid-friendly. And I'm not sure if they're CCA-approved like the regular DC titles.
But yeah, Ragman is definitely Vertigo-fare, based on the nature of his powers alone. However, the miniseries predates the Vertigo imprint, so but for a bit of timing it might have actually happened.
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Take that border wall!
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Zing!
Other notable Jewish superheroes:
Kitty Pryde, The Thing (yea, really!), Batwoman (the current lesbian one). The Atom (Palmer, not the Asian one obviously), Doc Samson, Wiccan, and Nite-Owl II (Watchmen)
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You mean all that ice?
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I mean, just because Superman's creators were Jewish doesn't make him Jewish. I give you, it's possible, but there really isn't an indication (that I'm aware of) either way.
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Did you really just cite a census to prove Superman isn't Jewish?
Wow. I really hope you are joking.
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And the point isn't that Superman was actually a Jew- he isn't- he's a Kryptonian. Period. However, it is easy to conclude that his creators drew on their own Jewish-American experience in their conception of an outsider immigrant from a special race who assimilated and became a mighty American hero. And yes, these themes have been minimalized as other artists developed the character according to their visions.
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Here here, enough with the messiah analogies in comics and storytelling.
Superman is just a Jewish man, who was given to Earth by his father to be raised by a common couple who receive him under mysterious circumstances, who would grow up to have unbelievable powers that he would use to try and make the world a better place. Then he was killed by an evil power and came back to life a short time later. But he most certainly isn't Christ.
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1) The religion of super heroes.
2) Startrek v. Starwars.
3) Whether Lizzy Borden could beat Anne Frank in a fight.
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Honestly, it's part of what makes them good reading.
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In a lot of ways, the Lost "writers" are just ultra-pretentious nerd idiots. Naming characters after philosophers and mythological beings for no other reason than to reference them and make the show seem smart.
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See, even he doesn't know. He didn't even know he shot the scenes. Crazy looks?
No, no, he was just wondering why there were people following him with cameras.
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My @!#$%&!! speedfreak roommate stole them all and lit out for Arizona in '96. Ah, well I would probably never have sold them anyways.