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    Image of phoenix phoenix
    04/02/09

    In reply to First Look at the Spacecraft That Will Take Humans to Mars
    I'm so bummed I didn't make it downtown to see this when it was available!
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    03/31/09

    In reply to First Look at the Spacecraft That Will Take Humans to Mars
    I get first dibs on the bathroom!
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    Image of DeSota DeSota
    03/31/09

    In reply to First Look at the Spacecraft That Will Take Humans to Mars
    Is that some kind of fucking joke? An enlarged Apollo capsule is going to take people to Mars. Oh how far we have come......
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    Image of KhaiJB KhaiJB
    03/31/09

    @DeSota: no, this is going to take us to orbit and the moon. a larger ship will take us to mars.


    this has been posted over and over and over and over again.

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    Image of NefariousNewt NefariousNewt
    03/31/09

    In reply to First Look at the Spacecraft That Will Take Humans to Mars
    "What a piece of junk!"


    I couldn't resist.

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    Image of EBone EBone
    03/31/09

    In reply to First Look at the Spacecraft That Will Take Humans to Mars
    Seems odd to be designing a ship now for use over twenty years from now. I'd like to think that we'll make some technological advances in the next 15 years that will make that thing way obsolete by then.
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    03/31/09

    @EBone: The shuttle is based on 70s technology. NASA and "obsolete" are old friends.
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    04/02/09

    @cletar: one man's "obsolete" is another man's "reliable." Remember that when your life depends on the technology.
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    03/31/09

    In reply to First Look at the Spacecraft That Will Take Humans to Mars
    Fun fact - the orion logo was designed by Mike Okuda of Star Trek: TNG fame!


    I can't wait. I just hope they keep up the ambition and don't get sidetracked. The ambition of the space program drives the desire to work in science for the generations of kids under it. If we can start sending people to the moon with some regularity, many of our kids will want to work towards that kind of goal. Which is a great thing.

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    Image of EBone EBone
    03/31/09

    @Marcelo: The Constellation logo on the side of it has a modified Arrowhead in it. Looks treky to me.
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    03/31/09

    In reply to First Look at the Spacecraft That Will Take Humans to Mars
    Will the Orion capsule have green chicks on board? Hey, it's Space Porn, we have to get the hard facts.
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    03/31/09

    In reply to First Look at the Spacecraft That Will Take Humans to Mars
    looks pretty naff to me. It's all held together by rivets? Do they even read sci-fi or view sci-fi art?
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    Image of tetracycloide tetracycloide
    03/31/09

    @snowcrash: if you've got a more visually appealing alternative to rivets that's as cost effective and low mantinance i'm sure NASA would be more than willing to compensate you for the trouble of sending it to them.
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    Image of Daveinva Daveinva
    03/31/09

    In reply to First Look at the Spacecraft That Will Take Humans to Mars
    Reading the comments on this over at Gizmodo, it's a little sad how little people know about this program. While in part I blame NASA, I also think there are a boatload of fundamentally incurious folks out there (on the internet? Never!).


    Really, Wikipedia is there for everyone:


    [en.wikipedia.org]


    To recap:
    -- Yes, it's a capsule like Apollo. It's a proven design (it worked before, didn't it?) and safer: it can eject in the event of failure on liftoff (remember Challenger?) and the capsule design is safer on reentry (remember Columbia?).


    -- That said, it's larger than Apollo (bigger crew), reusable (not as many times as the Shuttle, but in practice they'll get several flights out of each Orion capsule), and high-tech (glass cockpit).


    -- For Moon missions, the Orion is just the command module. Just like the Apollo missions, there's a service module component, and the lunar lander (the Altair). It's just that all of them are scaled up from Apollo, using new technology.


    The difference from Apollo, however, is that the crew in Orion will be launched separately (on a smaller Ares I rocket) and then rendezvous with the Earth Departure Stage (launched into Earth orbit by the Ares V), then use the combined vehicle to go to the Moon and back.


    [en.wikipedia.org]


    -- Once on the Moon, there's a chance for other deliveries for a permanent outpost. The first few missions will probably live out of the Altair just like the Apollo astronauts did, but in a short time there will be permanent structures built, either above ground or below ground.


    -- For Mars missions, the Orion would just be single modular component of a *much* larger spacecraft, built in Earth orbit. Think ISS, but with engines. Crew isn't going to spend months (or years) cooped up in the command module, they'll have a larger living space available. And there will likely be supply missions sent to Mars-- stuff already waiting on the ground to help the crew when they land.


    But we're a long way away (in time AND budget) from all that.

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    Image of phoenix phoenix
    04/02/09

    @Daveinva: Well done. :)
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    Image of Andrew Freedman Andrew Freedman
    03/31/09

    In reply to First Look at the Spacecraft That Will Take Humans to Mars
    They should call it "Colbert."
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    Image of Krashblind Krashblind
    03/31/09

    In reply to First Look at the Spacecraft That Will Take Humans to Mars
    Such a shame when outside companies have been coming up with more efficient ways of getting to orbit using reusable craft (ie; SpaceShip One). When I look at this thing I can't help but think that we just took one giant step back for man kind.
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    Image of KhaiJB KhaiJB
    03/31/09

    @Krashblind: well SP1 is non-orbital and this capsule is also reusable...
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    04/02/09

    @Krashblind: SP1 is by no means orbital or efficient.
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    Image of TaintedBlood TaintedBlood
    03/31/09

    In reply to First Look at the Spacecraft That Will Take Humans to Mars
    if we want to go to mars, why are we going to the moon? as always post-apollo nasa is setting itself up for inevitable failure.
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    04/02/09

    @TaintedBlood: Uh - as a test bed for technology that will get us to mars? As an outpost that's close enough to earth that you don't have to wait 500+ days to get back if you have a problem? As a way to test out long term space travel and isolation far from earth?


    Are you serious?

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    03/31/09

    In reply to First Look at the Spacecraft That Will Take Humans to Mars
    They couldn't wash it first?
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    Image of GitEmSteveDave_HazEnvy GitEmSteveDave_HazEnvy
    03/31/09

    @that charlie sedarka: They wanted to give it the authentic "You're on Mars" feel.
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    03/31/09

    In reply to First Look at the Spacecraft That Will Take Humans to Mars
    Three years in an Apollo capsule.


    Three years in an Apollo capsule.


    Three years in an Apollo capsule.


    All work and no play make Jack a dull boy.

    All work and no play make Jack a dull boy.

    All work and no play make Jack a dull boy.

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    03/31/09

    @92BuickLeSabre: Beer?
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    03/31/09

    In reply to First Look at the Spacecraft That Will Take Humans to Mars
    Oh, gee... the Honda Civic of spacecraft. This is way better then a reusable orbital shuttle with actual cargo capacity.
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    Image of KhaiJB KhaiJB
    03/31/09

    @cash907: actually yes it is. you'll have the manned system and the unmanned cargo carrier. you can then optimise each to it's maximum potential. the main issue with the shuttle was it tried to do both and didn't actually do either that well.
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    04/02/09

    @KhaiJB: Wow - well said.
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