This is all great, and of course I've already voted, but surprised you guys haven't mentioned that Dead Snow is nominated for four Scream Awards! (not to mention Let the right one in).
Outlander was a real fun movie.It was not YARM !!! It has never been done before.It holds your intertest.I hope it wins over any of those big budget bloated hollywood films.
outlander was not meant to be a world shaking intelligent movie it was made for fun and it is fun.
Not going to discover anything new here, but, really, Outlander?... It was entertaining, but good? naming one of the vikings after one LOTR guy, like they could not just pick any name at random from an Icelandic phone book?, the movie where the aliens speak Old Norse but the vikings speak Ye Olde English (with different accents from one guy to the next, even when being from the same village)? Where that thing with the shields is pure Eureka writing (this doesn't fit or even make sense, so it'll have to be needed later)?
I mean, sure, there's nothing wrong with a hamburger, but I wouldn't choose it as "best meal I've had this year"
@collex: It probably wasn't released in time. I would look for it next year, where time will have eroded it's memory and it will lose to 9, Avatar, or possibly The Road if it gets in that category.
@Belabras ate my dingo!: Dude, I love these kinds of movies but I am going to have to go with Dash here. That movie was so rickety it was nuts. Great dragon, terrible plot, lackluster back story. It could have been great but let's be honest...Outlander was the result of some rich, studio executives nephew asking him who he liked more, Vikings or Spacemen.
@Dr.Quatermass: Um, no. I had dinner with the guys who made Outlander and they spent 10 years working on it as a labor of love. There was no rich executive in the picture.
I also think it had a much better plot than almost any other giant monster movie I've seen. It was an unexpected twist on dragon and alien movies; and it had character development. Plus great effects. I can't wait to see what these guys make next.
@Annalee Newitz: Me Too.Forget about what these others say.you and i know it was different and a fun thing to watch.i also hope they will make another cool independently made scifi.
Damn skippy!!! Outlander reminded me of Pitch Black in the way it hit the cinemas for about 2 days yet its become an underground hit on DVD and downloads!!!! I thought it was bloody awesome! Why is this such shoking news? And why the term scrappy? It was very solid, damn crazy..but solid!! TF2 AND Terminator couldnt lick Outlanders boots clean if they tried..even with all that cash and boom bang! Oulanders effects were awesome considering the budet. If anything deserves to pip it at the post...its Moon. But thats all. Trek was good for what its worth. But Outlander was good old Viking/Sci-Fi fun.
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In fact, any panspermia plot is pretty much going to be scientific nonsense, unless you put the panspermia back close to a billion years. The "Ark" theory, that humans and animals came to Earth in relatively recent (ie. last 100,000 and in fact far more years) is really, really, really debunked. Thanks to creationists it is perhaps the most debunked idea in the history of history.
I wrote an essay on these questions here, because so many people cling to the Battlestar Galactica plot of 1978.
Now, as to the question of Battlestar, it is not at all clear that the new series is a Panspermia story. Moore, the producer was asked this question after season 1, and he said it would not be such a story in his blog, but he was going to try to write a story to merge the ideas of the old show and the scientific non-reality of recent panspermia.
There are two possible options now, since the "Earth" they found is not our Earth (since I am pretty sure our real planet was not named by Cylon colonists.)
1) This "Earth" is given that name, to match the old show's quest, but is not at all our Earth in any meaningful way, not the same culture, no fossils in the ground, etc.
2) There is a real Earth out there, as shown at the end of season 3. One growing opinion is that we'll see it, since the stars in the scene of the Cylon civil war are exactly the Earth stars, and aside from a few related scenes, those stars are not seen anywhere else, including on "Earth" the 13th colony.
But we'll see. In the meantime check out the essay.
@bradtem: I felt it best to hedge my bets on the new series; for one thing, I'm still working through it (at quite the feverish pace, I might add). But the original series is an open-and-shut case.
I saw "Mission to Mars" on a plane, which is the only reason I did. Said plane was from Silicon Valley to Worldcon, and thus full of science and SF geeks. You could tell where the fans were sitting by the derisive snorts, annoyed whispering, and uproarious laughter in places the makers hadn't intended there to be a joke.
My guess is that BSG is set in the far-off future, and the Colonials and the Cylons are all descendants of a post-Singularity humanity that nearly wiped itself out millennia before.
In the not too distant future, of course, humans and robots will be united in struggle against cheesy movies -- the worst they can find.
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outlander was not meant to be a world shaking intelligent movie it was made for fun and it is fun.
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I mean, sure, there's nothing wrong with a hamburger, but I wouldn't choose it as "best meal I've had this year"
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That said, the years best Sci-Fi movie so far is District 9. I'm just saying.
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I also think it had a much better plot than almost any other giant monster movie I've seen. It was an unexpected twist on dragon and alien movies; and it had character development. Plus great effects. I can't wait to see what these guys make next.
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I wrote an essay on these questions here, because so many people cling to the Battlestar Galactica plot of 1978.
You can find it at: [ideas.4brad.com]
Now, as to the question of Battlestar, it is not at all clear that the new series is a Panspermia story. Moore, the producer was asked this question after season 1, and he said it would not be such a story in his blog, but he was going to try to write a story to merge the ideas of the old show and the scientific non-reality of recent panspermia.
There are two possible options now, since the "Earth" they found is not our Earth (since I am pretty sure our real planet was not named by Cylon colonists.)
1) This "Earth" is given that name, to match the old show's quest, but is not at all our Earth in any meaningful way, not the same culture, no fossils in the ground, etc.
2) There is a real Earth out there, as shown at the end of season 3. One growing opinion is that we'll see it, since the stars in the scene of the Cylon civil war are exactly the Earth stars, and aside from a few related scenes, those stars are not seen anywhere else, including on "Earth" the 13th colony.
But we'll see. In the meantime check out the essay.
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In the not too distant future, of course, humans and robots will be united in struggle against cheesy movies -- the worst they can find.
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