Well, I'm actually happy that his response to the film was good-natured humor rather than anger. Lets me know that he's not full of shit.
I've been studying the concepts of Buddhism recently (which is actually more of a philosophy rather than a religion,) and I've got to say, there's definite merit in his ideas, but, interestingly enough, there's no way we'd ever convince a group of soldiers that embraced those ideas fully to ever participate in any sort of warfare again. #firstearthbattalion
@Smeagol92055: It all depends on how you define religion, I guess.
If it's defined as worship of the supernatural, then Buddhism tends to be generally less religious than what we're familiar with from mainstream Christianity.
If you define religion as "re + ligare," "to reconnect," with reality as it is, then certain forms of Buddhism are very religious.
It all depends on which form of Buddhism you're talking about, though. There's a big difference between Theravada and Pure Land, for example.
The core concepts are the same, but the interpretations are wildly different.
Out of curiosity, what sort of Buddhism have you been studying? #firstearthbattalion
@Smeagol92055: That's true. Theravada is probably the most philosophical form, followed by Zen.
I started with Theravada as well, when I got into insight meditation.
The thing I love about it is that it's like a diagnosis. The Four Noble Truths identify the problem of suffering; and the Eightfold path is the prescription / remedy.
Whatever your interest in it, I wish you the best of luck, with metta! #firstearthbattalion
@Jrsy Devil's Advocate®: I never actually saw TGOC. It was yanked from everywhere before I could watch it. In retrospect, I understand that's a good thing. #firstearthbattalion
I read a fascinating book on the effect that killing ones fellow man (and being in a position where one must constantly be ready to kill) has on soldiers. If yoga and meditation can help eliminate that I'm all for it. #firstearthbattalion
@Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.: Yoga is the most relaxing thing I've ever done, so maybe.
Meditation also effects the brain according to brain scans on monks doing it, so the combination might actually work. #firstearthbattalion
@Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.: I was watching a documentary about ancient warfare in the Bible on the History channel. It pointed out that the Bible didn't allow soldiers returning from battle to return to their home villages until they had gone through something like a 7 day period to become "clean". I think the effect of war on the psyche was something that ancient societies understood but our society has somewhat forgotten. We tend to take our returning soldiers and dump back in home and act surprised when they have trouble returning to civilian life. #firstearthbattalion
@Bill-Lee: It gets even more complicated when 'going to war' means sitting in a warehouse down the street and piloting a UAV halfway around the world. Those remote kills can take a larger toll on your psyche than most other forms of combat.
Think about it. Instead of facing your enemy face to face in the battlefield - killing them when they're trying to kill you - you seek them out when they're on their smoke break using a video stream that's high def enough to make out their expressions, mannerisms, things that make them seem human. Then you push a button and kill them.
I imagine it would take more than a few days come back to reality after that. #firstearthbattalion
@Gann: Actually, the book I was reading refuted that idea. Navy soldiers have a markedly lower psychiatric casualty percentage because they can think of the people they are killing as "subjects" or "marks" rather than actual people.
Studies have shown that the closer one gets to one's victim the greater the trauma to the killer. #firstearthbattalion
@Illogic: The effects are different depending on the type of meditation, of course, but in general it allows a person to slow down their thoughts enough to have better control over their emotional reactions. Which could be extremely useful in dealing with PTSD and other psychological problems soldiers face.
The problem though is that meditation works much better as a preventative measure. You really have to be doing it regularly for several years to get the best benefit out of it. It's much harder to learn after the damage is done. #firstearthbattalion
@Bill-Lee: That makes a lot of sense actually. Although they didn't have war (or even a word for it), the Australian Aborigines of Groote Eylandt would isolate people in mourning.
If someone close to you died, for example, you and other close kin would be left alone for several days, while other members of the community would bring food and other necessities.
I don't know if people in mourning were considered "unclean" exactly, but were regarded as being connected to spiritual forces and death, and so were dangerous to be around until they'd had time to grieve. #firstearthbattalion
@Gann: There's also the fairly famous Milgram conformity experiment, which found that when people were instructed to harm strangers, they were a lot more likely to question those instructions when they could see and hear the victim; which suggests it was more stressful to do so.
Well, if actual mysterious fires do take place in the house, it's pretty clearly not a safe place to live in, any supernatural explanations be damned. The whole thing sounds more like random bursts of electromagnetism, though it would be interesting to know what causes it.
I wonder if some scientist would be interested enough, and not put off by the paranormal babble to put some sensors in the place, and see if there's anything unusual in the place, or if it's just a pyromaniac's hoax. #ghosts
In the US we would have Ty Pennington come out and build them a new house in the same spot in under a week. They could make it a two hour episode. #ghosts
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That's what happens when you build a house on an old American-Indian burial ground. Let that be a lessons to all those Czech who scoff at such warnings. #ghosts
There was an exorcism performed on a room in my dorm this year. Upside of Catholic university, we got supernatural badasses running around busting those ghosts. #ghosts
@ggodo, the man from R.O.A.C.H.: Please tell me they're a group of really cool almost priests or something like that and they solve paranormal mysteries on the side? And that one of them is a guy under thirty and really cute. :P #ghosts
@Sunshineyness: Well, one of them is just over thirty? and they're mostly just really cool priests. As far as the side work, they mostly pull crazy pranks on each other. These are the greatest priests ever. #ghosts
paranormal was an intreaguing look into what realtiy appears to be through the eyes of a complete idiot that thinks there's a ethereal cause to everything. the time would count down to o'dark'thiry in the morning and every time i'd think to myself 'is this what people who believe in the ethereal actually think is happening when they're woken up in the middle of the night by inocuous noises?' #paranormalactivity
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I've been studying the concepts of Buddhism recently (which is actually more of a philosophy rather than a religion,) and I've got to say, there's definite merit in his ideas, but, interestingly enough, there's no way we'd ever convince a group of soldiers that embraced those ideas fully to ever participate in any sort of warfare again. #firstearthbattalion
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If it's defined as worship of the supernatural, then Buddhism tends to be generally less religious than what we're familiar with from mainstream Christianity.
If you define religion as "re + ligare," "to reconnect," with reality as it is, then certain forms of Buddhism are very religious.
It all depends on which form of Buddhism you're talking about, though. There's a big difference between Theravada and Pure Land, for example.
The core concepts are the same, but the interpretations are wildly different.
Out of curiosity, what sort of Buddhism have you been studying? #firstearthbattalion
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I agree that it's a religion, but you can take away the religious aspects of it to reflect on the philosophy behind the message. #firstearthbattalion
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I started with Theravada as well, when I got into insight meditation.
The thing I love about it is that it's like a diagnosis. The Four Noble Truths identify the problem of suffering; and the Eightfold path is the prescription / remedy.
Whatever your interest in it, I wish you the best of luck, with metta! #firstearthbattalion
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Meditation also effects the brain according to brain scans on monks doing it, so the combination might actually work. #firstearthbattalion
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Think about it. Instead of facing your enemy face to face in the battlefield - killing them when they're trying to kill you - you seek them out when they're on their smoke break using a video stream that's high def enough to make out their expressions, mannerisms, things that make them seem human. Then you push a button and kill them.
I imagine it would take more than a few days come back to reality after that. #firstearthbattalion
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Studies have shown that the closer one gets to one's victim the greater the trauma to the killer. #firstearthbattalion
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The problem though is that meditation works much better as a preventative measure. You really have to be doing it regularly for several years to get the best benefit out of it. It's much harder to learn after the damage is done. #firstearthbattalion
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If someone close to you died, for example, you and other close kin would be left alone for several days, while other members of the community would bring food and other necessities.
I don't know if people in mourning were considered "unclean" exactly, but were regarded as being connected to spiritual forces and death, and so were dangerous to be around until they'd had time to grieve. #firstearthbattalion
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I wonder if some scientist would be interested enough, and not put off by the paranormal babble to put some sensors in the place, and see if there's anything unusual in the place, or if it's just a pyromaniac's hoax. #ghosts
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Anyhow, he has better things to do, like pick up the pieces of his failed gubernatorial campaign. #ghosts
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