This looks great. I especially like the three card monte they're playing with what's actually going on (Aliens?Time travel?Conspiracy?Alientimetraveconspiracywithaddedspies...?). Can't wait:)
I just finished the old show last month. It took me about three weeks to get all the way through it, and the whole time I was telling family & friends you have to watch this show.
And then I finished it. I cannot tell you how disappointed I was with the ending:
@alchemisto: This is one of the more notorious moments of "WTF?" in BBC history. The backstory is that series was cancelled a week before the last episode was to air (production times being tight in those days), and Patrick McGoohan stepped in and wrote the script himself as well as directing the episode.
After the episode aired, the BBC switchboard was flooded with calls from asking what they had just watched. McGoohan himself was forced into hiding for a short period of time because people kept showing up at his house asking him to explain what happened in that episode.
@alchemisto: Shows aren't liked they used to be. A lot of scifi/fantasy oriented shows nowadays (since Babylon 5, really) put a lot of thought and effort into where the show's going, where it will wind up, and what it will look like when it gets there. Shows like The Prisoner from the 60s were more like a series of musings on an idea, with no real end-point in mind. Doesn't mean the ride isn't fun.
He simply doesn't radiate the intellectual electricity that McGoohan did.
If I bother to watch this at all, it will be because of McKellen, who is easily the most compelling thing in this. I don't think he would have been out of place next to McGoohan in the original.
I'm glad to see they've brought back the big white ball. I saw the original series when it was first on. I was very young and forgot about it, but I remembered the white balloon. Later, it used to drive me crazy trying to remember where I'd seen it. Then I was a rebroadcast in the '90s and it all became clear.
I miss the pennyfarthing insignia and the Albertus typeface, but those would probably look rather silly today. Design geek nostalgia aside this looks like a very smart show.
Be seeing it.
I actually started watching the original Prisoner for the first time recently and I'm really loving it. I think that it's got some great themes regarding individuality that seem well discussed in the time the show was made.
In the last article on this remake, the writer said that he envisions his version as a "response" to the original Prisoner and I really like that idea. Obviously, that's the most important part of a "remake", is making sure that this new version has themes that are important to new audiences. I'm definitely gonna check out the remake.
But with that said, I think the new Rover is too big! Hopefully that's not its regular size.
I really liked the original series. I remember that it was one of the first DVD sets my local library got (the other really memorable one being Monty Python's Flying Circus) and being mesmerized by it.
This new one looks pretty good too. Looking forward to it.
The choice of the big white ball was a BUDGETARY decision in the original series. They had the idea for something else and the money people said no... the big white ball was a compromise.
We can sometimes forget that, in the past:
1. They really did try to bring these things in cheap.
2. Producers, by and large, took themselves much less seriously than they do now.
The original series was not logical. It was a cinematic poem, an inkblot test for the audience and it was FUN.
There is NO Meaning to the series or the final episode...the writers did not know what the show was really about and they REVELED in the fact.
Watch the final disc of the bx set and you will see what I mean.
I think this series is in danger of being far too earnest. We shall see.....
@Azogue: More an act of desperation than a budgetary decision per se. There was a mechanical contraption built that was supposed to be Rover, but it wasn`t very practical and sunk very early in filming. There are some photos out there of the original rover. I seem to be having trouble tracking any down right now, but I found this clip on Youtube that discusses it.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2CszP93ZuAWhat they went with was so much better than anything they could have built?
I'm a big fan of the original Prisoner, and while seeing that they're keeping Rover does me good, I'm still not convinced about this remake/response/reboot thing they're doing.
Part of what made Rover work so well in the original was that it was idiom-breaking and inexplicable. It was like a warning flare to alert both the views and Number 6 that there was some heavy-duty weird coming up.
I mean, watch the clip of Rover's first appearance in the first episode. No. 6 has this look on his face of total incomprehension. Rover completely breaks the paradigm of a spy show, and as it serenely bounces away after feasting/capturing/absorbing its target, it takes with it any sense of conventional safety, because the conventions of the genre are clearly already broken.
Gotta love that little smirk from No. 2 as Rover finishes its job.
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And then I finished it. I cannot tell you how disappointed I was with the ending:
Looping Beatles music? check
Anti-climatic over-simplistic success? check
Chilldhood programming? Check
Cultlike Courts? Check
I now have trouble recommending episodes. I mean, how can you recommend something that's got no payoff?
Watching (my wife for example) say: "OOO, I can't wait to see how this plays out"
Me: Errrr, actually the ending doesn't make any sense?
Her: Oh. I guess I don't need to watch it any more then.
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After the episode aired, the BBC switchboard was flooded with calls from asking what they had just watched. McGoohan himself was forced into hiding for a short period of time because people kept showing up at his house asking him to explain what happened in that episode.
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He simply doesn't radiate the intellectual electricity that McGoohan did.
If I bother to watch this at all, it will be because of McKellen, who is easily the most compelling thing in this. I don't think he would have been out of place next to McGoohan in the original.
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Be seeing it.
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In the last article on this remake, the writer said that he envisions his version as a "response" to the original Prisoner and I really like that idea. Obviously, that's the most important part of a "remake", is making sure that this new version has themes that are important to new audiences. I'm definitely gonna check out the remake.
But with that said, I think the new Rover is too big! Hopefully that's not its regular size.
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This new one looks pretty good too. Looking forward to it.
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We can sometimes forget that, in the past:
1. They really did try to bring these things in cheap.
2. Producers, by and large, took themselves much less seriously than they do now.
The original series was not logical. It was a cinematic poem, an inkblot test for the audience and it was FUN.
There is NO Meaning to the series or the final episode...the writers did not know what the show was really about and they REVELED in the fact.
Watch the final disc of the bx set and you will see what I mean.
I think this series is in danger of being far too earnest. We shall see.....
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Better clip with some footage of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSbCwYU_SZo
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Part of what made Rover work so well in the original was that it was idiom-breaking and inexplicable. It was like a warning flare to alert both the views and Number 6 that there was some heavy-duty weird coming up.
I mean, watch the clip of Rover's first appearance in the first episode. No. 6 has this look on his face of total incomprehension. Rover completely breaks the paradigm of a spy show, and as it serenely bounces away after feasting/capturing/absorbing its target, it takes with it any sense of conventional safety, because the conventions of the genre are clearly already broken.
Gotta love that little smirk from No. 2 as Rover finishes its job.