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    3-D Model Of Lee Harvey Oswald's Head: A Setback For Conspiracy Theorists

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    11/08/09

    In reply to 3-D Model Of Lee Harvey Oswald's Head: A Setback For Conspiracy Theorists
    Sadly, conspiracy nuts have the ultimate come back to any argument against their theories: "That's what THEY want you to think."

    Any evidence counter to the theory is just you being suckered in by the conspirators. #photos
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    11/08/09

    In reply to 3-D Model Of Lee Harvey Oswald's Head: A Setback For Conspiracy Theorists
    Ok, so I love starting an argument just for the hell of it..

    There were two shooters. Oswald and someone else. Oswald fires the first shot and misses. This must have confused him initially. Prior to this he fired the rifle, probably for the first and only time while trying to assassinate General Edwin Walker. How did he miss at 30' away during that attempt and yet be able to take out Kennedy at 80 plus yards later? It was concluded that the window frame must have blocked the kill shot intended for Walker. Oswald, no doubt reasoned to himself afterwards that he must have missed because he was nervous (I know I would be if I was sitting outside someone's house staring them down through a rifle-scope) and it affected his aim.

    The real reason for this is that the sights were off on the rifle. A fact Oswald could not have known since he did not have other opportunities to fire the weapon. In the book depository however he was steady in his resolve to complete his mission. He was not nervous and it was only then he must have realized the sights were off. No time to correct them so he aims lower and takes his next shot, striking Kennedy in the back. He reloads while the president begins to slump forward in his seat. The second shooter was already targeting Kennedy before the street sign obstructed his view. As soon as the president appears he shoots. Kennedy, now pitched forward is at an angle that causes the impact of the bullet to shatter his skull while fragments of it strike Connelly, causing his multiple wounds.

    Mystery solved. Now if you'll excuse me I need to make a new tinfoil hat. #photos
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    11/08/09

    In reply to 3-D Model Of Lee Harvey Oswald's Head: A Setback For Conspiracy Theorists
    I don't understand. Even if the photo WERE fake, what would that prove?
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    11/08/09

    @jeremydeananderson003:
    That the reverse vampires, Twilight Werewolves, the Saucer People, the Molemen, the CIA, the FBI, the Mafia, the KGB, Illinois Nazis, the KKK, M.A.S.K., the US Army, the Future People, Jerry Lewis, the Beatniks, and John Wayne were definitely involved. #photos
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    11/08/09

    @ManchuCandidate: You forgot "Paul McCartney". #photos
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    11/07/09

    In reply to 3-D Model Of Lee Harvey Oswald's Head: A Setback For Conspiracy Theorists
    It really doesn't matter what evidence you bring forward, conspiracy nuts are going to find ridiculous arguments to disregard it out of hand. If they found footage from a camera that recorded Lee Harvey Oswald clearly shooting Kennedy, they would still deny it as they are obsessed with their conspiracy. #photos
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    11/07/09

    In reply to 3-D Model Of Lee Harvey Oswald's Head: A Setback For Conspiracy Theorists
    This still doesn't answer the basic question of why someone would pose with a gun and Marxist paper as if prepping himself for damming evidence. #photos
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    11/07/09

    @Sunshineyness: why did the columbine kids pose with the guns before the school shootings? #photos
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    11/07/09

    @Sunshineyness: Think of suicide bombers having their pictures taken wearing the vest and patriotic headband. Or a redneck getting his picture taken with the "Confederate Flag" and their shotgun Betsie. #photos
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    11/08/09

    @Sunshineyness: what, that's not how you posed for your Senior Picture too? #photos
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    11/08/09

    @Sunshineyness: Oswald was an attention whore, egomaniac. He probably thought this photo would become important, historical and an inspiration to Soviets and American dessenters everywhere after he murdered JFK. Like that portrait photo of Che for revolutionists. #photos
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    11/08/09

    @Lincolnsbeard33: Those kids were pretty nuts and in love with images of violence, right? And perhaps inspired by pictures akin to this? And like Phiphax said- teenagers and stupidity go hand in hand. (Unfortunately in their case with psychopathy) #photos
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    11/08/09

    @Sevius: I guess that's true. I remember during the election picures surfaced online of that Palin daughter and her idiot boyfriend posing with their guns. Scared the crap out of me seeing pics of teens with rifles.

    Maybe it's my blue state east coast upbringing but I just can't grasp why people would do that. *Shrug* Maybe that's a good thing. #photos
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    11/08/09

    @mekki: It's scary but in a different way that's what happened. It's an infamous photo that is a part of history and for as long as people talk about the assassination that picture will always pop up.

    Also, according to Wikipedia (just looking up now) there were two taken and one as inscribed "to my daughter June."

    That just freaked the crap out of me.
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    11/07/09

    In reply to 3-D Model Of Lee Harvey Oswald's Head: A Setback For Conspiracy Theorists
    I just want to point out to all you naysayers here that as soon as this article when up I exposed the problem with it twDarkflame is the closest to the truth with his comment, but my comment was scrubbed. Coincidence? I think not.
    I've already said too much. As someone said in an earlier thread the first rule about time travel is you don't talk about time travel.
    Later, I'm off to make sure my parents meet at the big dance. #photos
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    11/07/09

    In reply to 3-D Model Of Lee Harvey Oswald's Head: A Setback For Conspiracy Theorists
    Clearly it was faked.

    By time-travelers. #photos
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    11/07/09

    In reply to 3-D Model Of Lee Harvey Oswald's Head: A Setback For Conspiracy Theorists
    This looks shopped. I can tell from some of the pixells and from seeing quite a few shops in my time #photos
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    11/07/09

    @cadrina:
    You mean they had Photoshop in 1963 when this photo was taken?

    Damn aliens. #photos
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    11/07/09

    @ManchuCandidate: Yeah, in the original, he was holding a cellphone. #photos
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    11/07/09


    Hmmm.... #photos
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    11/07/09

    @ManchuCandidate: 0f course, the military had photoshop since the 50's from the UFO of the roswell crash, and their computers used the software that would give origin to the windows, why do you think that they crashed in the first place? #photos
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    11/07/09

    In reply to 3-D Model Of Lee Harvey Oswald's Head: A Setback For Conspiracy Theorists
    Charlie Jane Anders is an anagram for Aliens Can Jeer Hard.

    Do you really need any more evidence than that??? #photos
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    11/07/09

    @twophrasebark: Well, I don't. Where's my pitchfork? Go get some torches and Frankenstein rakes! #photos
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    11/07/09

    @cletar: yes! yes! Just be sure to use the Frankenstein rakes near those torches! Not any other kind, ok? #photos
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    11/07/09

    @vinylrake: Yes! To the old windmill! #photos
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    11/07/09

    In reply to 3-D Model Of Lee Harvey Oswald's Head: A Setback For Conspiracy Theorists
    I'd never even heard someone deny the authenticity of this photo before.... #photos
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    11/07/09

    @Srynerson:
    There are a number of the Kennedy conspiracy theorists that say his head looks wrong & is a pasteup job on someone else's body. It does look a bit off kilter, but that appears to be the actual pose.
    There were people then that were excellent at that difficult & time consuming job before Photoshop. #photos
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    11/07/09

    In reply to 3-D Model Of Lee Harvey Oswald's Head: A Setback For Conspiracy Theorists
    Hany Farid is an anagram for Nay, Hid Far.

    I rest my case. #photos
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    11/07/09

    In reply to 3-D Model Of Lee Harvey Oswald's Head: A Setback For Conspiracy Theorists
    JFK conspiracy theorists will have the same reaction to this that moon landing conspiracy theorists have to evidence that moon landing was real. Any evidence that challenges the conspiracy theory is seen as just another part of the conspiracy. Personally I've always felt that their was more to the murder of JFK than a lone nut and that the truth of the event is somewhere in between the official reports and the crackpot theories. #photos
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    11/07/09

    @Bill-Lee:

    Bill Lee is an anagram for Bell Lie.

    I rest my case. #photos
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    11/07/09

    @twophrasebark:
    Warpaths Broke

    Refers to Cuba and the failed Bay of Pigs invasion. You're one of THEM!!!! #photos
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    11/07/09

    ManchuCandidate {== Hiding in plain sight??? #photos
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    11/07/09

    @92BuickLeSabre:
    Nope...

    Cicada Had Men Nut #photos
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    11/07/09

    @ManchuCandidate: О, нет! Я был пойман. Пора вернуться на родину.
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    11/07/09

    @twophrasebark:
    Da svedanya Komrade! #photos
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    11/07/09

    @ManchuCandidate: More Leitmotivs.

    Sure, a little Wagner, a little John Williams, fine by me. #photos
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    11/07/09

    @Bill-Lee: In all seriousness I've come to the same reasoning. There's too much amiss to just believe the official line. Too much pressure at the time to make it "just a lone gunman" so America could move on.

    I've been subscribing to the benign conspiracy theory that is basically: there was more to the murder but the police, FBI, government, and frankly the people in '63/'64 just wanted the case shut so any hope of really knowing what went down went with that. There was a conspiracy to cover it up but not out of any sort of evil plan.

    For me the biggest thing that confounds me was that Oswald proclaimed he was innocent to his last breath. Who shoots the president for extreme political reasons and then doesn't scream it from the rooftop? You shoot a president for extreme political reasons you TELL people those extreme political opinions.

    It always comes down to that for me. #photos
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    11/07/09

    @Sunshineyness: More than that, the near-pristine magic bullet has always had a thick coating of bulls--- all over it. But like many others, I tend to believe conspiracy by way of just wanting to get the case closed than some vast multiagency coup. #photos
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    08/26/09

    In reply to Where "Douchey" Scifi Writer Ronald Chevalier Found His Character Inspiration
    I was more annoyed that it's more or less ripped off from the awesome BBC comedy "Garth Marenghi's Darkplace."
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    08/26/09

    @bonniegrrl: That's what I've been thinking all along. Irony, eh wot?
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    08/26/09

    In reply to Where "Douchey" Scifi Writer Ronald Chevalier Found His Character Inspiration
    "Douchey" science fiction writers... so this is a movie about L. Ron Hubbard then, is it?
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    08/26/09

    In reply to Where "Douchey" Scifi Writer Ronald Chevalier Found His Character Inspiration
    ...isn't this movie, like, written by Jared Hess? why wouldn't it seem like Napoleon Dynamite? isn't that what's kinda cool about it? whatever.
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    08/26/09

    @schmid4brains: Jared Hess is a stripper hack.
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    08/26/09

    @Garrison Dean: R.O.A.C.H.: ha!
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    08/26/09

    @schmid4brains: yeah but everyone is all "wah i didn't like napoleon"
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    Image of Plague Plague
    08/26/09

    @Meredith Woerner: Considering it's one of the worst movies of this century...
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    08/26/09

    @Plague: Hated 'the big lebowski' too, did you?
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    08/26/09

    @thexpert: Sweet Jesus. In what effin' world is the Big Lebowski like that pile of hipster drivel?

    And NO, I don't approve that comment.
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    Edited by Plague at 08/26/09 9:43 AM Plague was starred Plague was unstarred
    Image of Meredith Woerner Meredith Woerner
    08/26/09

    @Plague: the century??? Really?
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    Image of Garrison Dean: R.O.A.C.H. Garrison Dean: R.O.A.C.H.
    08/26/09

    @Meredith Woerner: Well we are only 10 years in so there is room for a new winner, but yes, it is the worst.
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    Image of Meredith Woerner Meredith Woerner
    08/26/09

    @Garrison Dean: R.O.A.C.H.: Transformers 2. There was no robot heaven in ND.
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    08/26/09

    @Meredith Woerner: No, but only because they didn't think to spend 10 minutes talking about how he drew it in his stupid notebook.

    And for the record we are talking about the worst movie of the century not the Best Movie EVAH!!
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    08/26/09

    @Meredith Woerner: CRAPPY MOVIE SPOILER ALERT!

    Ah, Who'am I kidding. I am never gonna see it.
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    08/26/09

    @Garrison Dean: R.O.A.C.H.: Do we have comments of the day here? Cause we need to invent it for this man.
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    08/26/09

    @Garrison Dean: R.O.A.C.H.:

    BWAHAHAHA!
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    Image of tetracycloide tetracycloide
    08/26/09

    @Garrison Dean R.O.A.C.H.: & @Meredith Woerner: you're both black.
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    Image of Plague Plague
    08/26/09

    @tetracycloide: let me be the one to say it.
    HUH?
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    Image of tetracycloide tetracycloide
    08/26/09

    @Plague: pots and kettles
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    Image of Plague Plague
    08/26/09

    @tetracycloide: We call fail on that one, good chap.
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    Image of tetracycloide tetracycloide
    08/26/09

    @Plague: you're a collective? interesting. i'm sure someone got it, i'm sorry you didn't.
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    Image of Plague Plague
    08/26/09

    @tetracycloide: GD and I discussed. Neither of us got it. So, if our collective giant minds failed to grasp it, then it was a fail.
    But thanks for playing. Please collect your gift on the way out.
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    08/26/09

    @Alexis Brown: We used to have the weekly Ouroborous, but no more.

    But yes, GD's 10:35 and 8:28 comments are awesome.
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    08/27/09

    @Plague: i shall consider myself fortunate then that there are more here than the two of you.
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