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    Image of twophrasebark twophrasebark
    11:25 AM

    In reply to SGU Gets Another Season And Takes Responsibility For Sexism-Gate
    WWMRS?

    (What Would Mary Ratliff Say?)
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    Image of Darklighter Darklighter
    10:06 AM

    In reply to SGU Gets Another Season And Takes Responsibility For Sexism-Gate
    I'm looking for the "We'll see how the second half of season 1 goes" option. I'm not optimistic.
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    Image of Roklimber Roklimber
    10:30 AM

    @Darklighter: I'm looking for the same option, but I am optimistic.
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    Image of Motoki Motoki
    10:03 AM

    In reply to SGU Gets Another Season And Takes Responsibility For Sexism-Gate
    No reality television is NOT part of the language of television now. It's part of the language of reality television period.

    While the suits love the idea of injecting what is popular into every show, a scripted show needs to stay a scripted show.

    One of the biggest things that made Virtuality a big fat fail to me (well that and blah characters that I didn't give a damn about) was its over reliance on the reality show gimmick.

    I don't even like real reality shows, why the hell would I want to watch a fake one?

    The creators of this show have already said they have used the kinos to provide character development to characters they otherwise haven't gotten around to yet.

    It's a cheap shortcut and an unnecessary one when they had plenty of time that they wasted on the crisis of the week because they ran out of hand wringing, only to get that item in the nick of time, and then find something else they need.

    The fact is, they are never going to get the audiences that American Idol and Dancing with the Stars have and no amount of kino cam confessionals will change that or lure those people in.

    Instead they should focus on what they do have, what the strong points of the Stargate franchise are and how they can incorporate new dramatic elements into that are not gimmicks or shortcuts.
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    10:27 AM

    @Motoki: Great post.
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    Image of Lassus Lassus
    09:52 AM

    In reply to SGU Gets Another Season And Takes Responsibility For Sexism-Gate
    I really like Sanctuary, but I have to say I hope they use this vote of confidence to get better. The last couple of episodes have been kinda fun, but as they string together, especially this last one, they seem really really really dull lately.
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    Edited by Lassus at 12/14/09 9:52 AM Lassus was starred Lassus was unstarred
    Image of TheFu TheFu
    09:45 AM

    In reply to SGU Gets Another Season And Takes Responsibility For Sexism-Gate
    I'm happy for Rush to be gone. Many really, really smart people behave in annoying ways and his character is over developed in that way.

    Ming Na is the hottest woman on that show. I dislike her character since she is almost always a bitch. That isn't realistic for a political position.

    They have an ensemble cast and need to share some day-in-the-life episodes to develop a deeper understanding for what everyone is doing.

    Adding some practical jokes couldn't hurt either. Humans in stressful situations joke with each other. Kino as a ghost? OTOH, watching kino footage is like watching a tv show about watching golf on tv. Boring.

    Out of curiosity, if you send a kino through, how does it get back without a human to dial the gate? Is there an auto-dialer with a delay, since you can't dial out with an active WH.
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    09:55 AM

    @TheFu: Do you really think Rush won't be back? They left one of the top scientists on alien technologies on a planet next to an alien ship that he seemed to think given a little time he could get inside of. Plus it's Stargate.

    Hmm, gee I wonder if we will ever see him again.
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    Image of twophrasebark twophrasebark
    09:42 AM

    In reply to SGU Gets Another Season And Takes Responsibility For Sexism-Gate
    But that's the other big hot button — whether sex belongs in sci-fi.

    I think it's been pretty clearly addressed that this is not the issue. And Cooper is well aware of it.

    The issue is how they have used sex and sexuality. There were not complaints about the use of sex on BSG - because it was done intelligently. And contextually.

    Cooper's response to the issues is pretty much the same as the other writers, just slicker. How do you respond to something without actually responding? Why just change the terms of the conversation...

    First the other writers attack fans and critics and try to say they're "hurting the cast" even though they're the ones depicting them in demeaning ways. Manipulation 101. Then the boss says he's happy to talk about the issues and changes the discussion. Manipulation 201.

    Basically, in order to write a character like Rush you have to be a little bit like Rush. Look at the way the writers respond to the criticism of the show and compare it to other shows' writers. These guys are kind of creepy. I hope Meredith is right, but based on my experience, they're not going to change what they're doing. They'll just try to convince people to look at it differently. Or divide the fanbase. Or convince people they're being prudish. And so on...
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    Edited by twophrasebark at 12/14/09 9:58 AM twophrasebark was starred twophrasebark was unstarred
    Image of EBone EBone
    09:40 AM

    In reply to SGU Gets Another Season And Takes Responsibility For Sexism-Gate
    Can we have an option in the poll for "Yes, I'll watch another season, mostly because there is nothing better on right now"?
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    Image of daveNYC daveNYC
    09:13 AM

    In reply to SGU Gets Another Season And Takes Responsibility For Sexism-Gate
    Young, Rush, Eli, and either Lantern Jaw or Mr. Angry. Those are your main four characters, and Stargate has been all about having four core characters with everyone else revolving around them. Probably a variation on Monkey Sphere theory. Good luck building up the stature of the other characters.
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    Image of GreyHammer GreyHammer
    09:04 AM

    In reply to SGU Gets Another Season And Takes Responsibility For Sexism-Gate
    yes kino director we so need more reality tv in our sci fi. worked great for... wait... oh no it hasn't worked.
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    Image of mekki mekki
    09:00 AM

    In reply to SGU Gets Another Season And Takes Responsibility For Sexism-Gate
    Can we change that to: Yes! I want to see Young's Ass Kicked?

    Because there are a few of us who hate that schmuck.
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    Image of Makidian Makidian
    09:08 AM

    @mekki: I do like Young but I like Rush better even if he is kinda sociopathic. I can't wait to see him get back on the Destiny. Too bad the break between shows is ridiculously too long. If they were going to wait until April they should have been woring on getting Eureka season 4 up and running with Caprica.
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    10:23 AM

    @Makidian: The thing with Rush is that he makes no apologies for who he is. He knows he is a prick. Young tries to play up that he is a good guy who does what he does in the best interest of everyone when in reality it's what is in the best interest for himself.

    And, yeah, these gaps are insanely long.
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    Image of Makidian Makidian
    11:01 AM

    @mekki: Exactly, it just sucks that the only person who can see that is Rush. Young should reallly take a step back and look at how things are run when he isn't in charge because when Camille and TJ have been running things, they seem to go reasonably smooth. Except for that whole chair situation but that was bound to happen eventually anyway.
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    Image of AngriestGeek AngriestGeek
    08:44 AM

    In reply to SGU Gets Another Season And Takes Responsibility For Sexism-Gate
    Neutered Star Trek? What Star Trek was that, because from day one "going where no man has gone before" included more than a few alien bedrooms.
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    Image of KhaiJB KhaiJB
    08:18 AM

    In reply to SGU Gets Another Season And Takes Responsibility For Sexism-Gate
    no more Rush and thats it.. I'm off to watch something else... he's the only one of the crew I like..
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    Image of reddingofish reddingofish
    08:26 AM

    @KhaiJB: Oh, come on. This is Stargate. No one ever dies in Stargate.
    I was just sayin' the other day while we were watching Sanctuary, Michael Shanks can't be dead because he is a Stargate actor. He'll be back.
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    Image of comrade_leviathan comrade_leviathan
    08:46 AM

    @KhaiJB: Haha, nice try.

    The whole ship would have died by episode 3 without Rush. Not every genius in television can be warm and fuzzy.
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    Image of GreyHammer GreyHammer
    09:01 AM

    @reddingofish: there is always a sarcophigus. just ask daniel jackson
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    Image of KhaiJB KhaiJB
    09:19 AM

    @comrade_leviathan: "nice try"? I mean it!
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    Image of Allen_Richards Allen_Richards
    08:16 AM

    In reply to SGU Gets Another Season And Takes Responsibility For Sexism-Gate
    Yes, but not because "Young is a badass," but rather Scientist Begbie who I keep hoping will kick Young in the balls while tossing back a pint....
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    Image of Belabras Belabras
    08:15 AM

    In reply to SGU Gets Another Season And Takes Responsibility For Sexism-Gate
    I guess Sanctuary must be super cheap, because this last season has been total junk. I mean, I already had pretty low standards for this show, but it still managed to disappoint. It takes work to suck that hard.

    SGU - bring it on. Has, imho, been the best Stargate show yet.
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    Image of Ghost_in_the_Machine Ghost_in_the_Machine
    08:35 AM

    @Belabras: I have to agree about Sanctuary. I watch it but I'm not as into it as I could be. One week they're fighting a Bond villain organization (the Cabal) then it's vampire squid vs sea scorpion then they're fighting a minor league abnormal gangster. They need to figure out what kind of show they want to be and stick with it.

    I'll keep watching SGU. There's too much potential that I'm hoping will be tapped.
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    08:58 AM

    @Belabras: I'm not sure if it's the scripts or her limitations as an actress, but Amanda Tapping is no fun to watch in Sanctuary. A the couple of episodes I saw this season were awful.

    Loving SGU though, I like that someone over there has acknowledged BSG as a game changer rather than pretending it never happened, like V.
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    Image of The Curse of Millhaven The Curse of Millhaven
    08:12 AM

    In reply to SGU Gets Another Season And Takes Responsibility For Sexism-Gate
    Sweet! I can't wait to seem something actually happen in the next season!
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