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    Image of gallahad gallahad
    12/11/09

    In reply to Mysterious Cattle Mutilations In Denver - Again
    Obviously it's Glenn Beck recharging his life force.
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    12/11/09

    @gallahad: Did he rape them before he murdered them? And was this in 1990?

    The world wants to know, and Beck won't answer the question!
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    12/10/09

    In reply to Mysterious Cattle Mutilations In Denver - Again
    It's times like these I wish The Man Eating Cow would avenge their deaths.
    [www.thetick.ws]
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    12/10/09

    In reply to Mysterious Cattle Mutilations In Denver - Again
    The part that always cracks me up is that the popular explanation always leaps straight across all of the weird-but-still wantonly improbable solutions before arriving at aliens. Yes, we are essentially dead certain that these are cases of people not being familiar with what carrion feeding and decomp can look like, with plenty of media hype, slotting into predetermined myths, and maybe even a few creepy butchers. But hell, a laser-wielding hoaxster is *still* profoundly more likely than little graylings with a taste for headcheese.
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    12/11/09

    @Strakus: Dude, it's aliens. RTFA.
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    Image of cynopt cynopt
    12/10/09

    In reply to Mysterious Cattle Mutilations In Denver - Again
    Clearly this is the work of the French.
    Fetchez la vache!
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    Image of Hachiken Hachiken
    12/11/09

    @cynopt: "...and your mother smelled of elderberries!"
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    12/10/09

    In reply to Mysterious Cattle Mutilations In Denver - Again
    I thought UFO Hunters busted this myth a while back. Insects and larvae make amazingly straight, laser-like cuts in skin and muscle as they devour an animal's body. They showed it actually take place with time-lapse photography.
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    12/10/09

    In reply to Mysterious Cattle Mutilations In Denver - Again
    Most of the jokes have already been made, so I'll just say: poor cow.
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    12/10/09

    In reply to Mysterious Cattle Mutilations In Denver - Again
    Something inhuman is doing this. So it's probably just people.
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    12/10/09

    @Goodnightbabytron: *golf clap* Very good, sir. Very good.
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    Image of Eldritch Eldritch
    12/10/09

    In reply to Mysterious Cattle Mutilations In Denver - Again
    See, everyone? This is what happens when Magical Trevor's tricks go wrong!
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    12/10/09

    @Eldritch: it was Orko trying to make a milk shake
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    12/10/09

    In reply to Mysterious Cattle Mutilations In Denver - Again
    Ugh. I was eating when I clicked on this.

    Maybe I should put a caution before this part: people who find CSI gross should stop now.

    I'm going to provisionally say "not lasers" because lasers strong enough to cut through meat that quickly would also leave visible scoring on the bone, if not outright cut through it, which isn't being mentioned.

    From the photo, the legs are broken but the skin over them is intact, which rules out something with strong jaws biting down and breaking them - anything biting has teeth which would tear the skin severely over the bite area.

    The dislocated back hips could be the animal being dragged, not necessarily a fall. That might also account for the broken legs leaving the spine and ribcage intact - an animal being dragged will kick out and possibly get it's legs caught struggling without causing the skin damage that teeth would cause.

    As far as I know the general order of soft-tissue predation on a body goes eyes & face, guts, then major muscle groups. The skin is tough so the exposed soft bits go first, and when they do get into the guts & muscles the skin gets torn in a fairly jagged fashion from the predators ripping at it, not chewing or slicing.

    So what you want an explanation for are broken bones without surface damage and something that would cause clean slices which would damage or remove skin. You don't need an explanation for where the meat under the skin went, necessarily, because once the skin is gone natural predation will go for that part - it's exposed and easy to get to.

    And having gotten that far, I can't think of anything except good old boys on jeeps with lassoes and scalpels.
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    12/10/09

    @bookwench: The slices on the skin come from the gas caused by decomposition. The body swells, splitting the skin. After the gas vents, the skin appears to have been sliced. Alternatively, dehydration can cause the skin to contract and crack.
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    Image of Segador Segador
    12/10/09

    @odinbearded: But that's not exciting. Get with the program, buddy.
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    Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. promoted this comment Segador was starred Segador was unstarred
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    12/10/09

    @Segador: Damn. You're right. That explains why my ghost hunting show wasn't picked up.

    It Was Just The Wind, You Jackass probably wouldn't make good TV.
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    12/10/09

    @odinbearded: I would watch in a heartbeat. I would start a fan club. I would start up spinoffs, like IWJTWYJ: Miami.
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    12/11/09

    @odinbearded:

    Huh... I've never seen dehydration cause clean "slices" on the kangaroo corpses that are all over the sides of the road out here. Guessing maybe roos have thicker skin which won't tear the same way?

    Also, the cow is in a puddle in the pic. I'm thinking dehydration is possibly not the cause.
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    12/10/09

    In reply to Mysterious Cattle Mutilations In Denver - Again
    Yeah, it's always happening around the San Luis Valley... not so much Denver. The only conversation this time of year is if the ranchers are going to buy more hay or sell more cows. I would be surprised if it was just some weirdo farm hand that can't buy hay or move the cattle he can't feed. However, I've got some family land around there and my friend caught some weird Earth Lights (no, I'm not going to call it a UFO,) on film when he was staying in my cabin down there.

    Strangest thing I've ever run into down there would be a hill billy that had a growing operation down there and he thought he Alpaca got to his bud.
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    Image of Anekanta - Go Play! Anekanta - Go Play!
    12/10/09

    In reply to Mysterious Cattle Mutilations In Denver - Again
    These things are always bizarre--precise cuts, indicating intelligence. But if aliens are doing this--or even some government agency or something--then why don't they just raise their own cattle?

    This moostery is udderly baffling.
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    12/10/09

    @Anekanta - Go Play!: *beats Anakanta with a raw steak*
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    12/10/09

    @crashedpc - Haifisch: A rare retort! Well-done sir! Looks like I've been T-boned!
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    Image of crashedpc - Haifisch crashedpc - Haifisch
    12/10/09

    @Anekanta - Go Play!: *throws pork rinds* Counter THAT, SWINE!
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    12/10/09

    @crashedpc - Haifisch: Aw, no need for that... I'm just hamming it up!
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    12/11/09

    @Anekanta - Go Play!: oh, the moo-hammity!
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    Image of Eugenia Eugenia
    12/10/09

    In reply to Mysterious Cattle Mutilations In Denver - Again
    Either UFOs, or more likely, cosmetic or pharmaceutical companies that are trying to get some animal parts for free for their products, by stealing.
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    12/10/09

    In reply to Mysterious Cattle Mutilations In Denver - Again
    No one seems to consider that possibility of the ranchers doing this to their own cattle to gain a little notoriety, like many farmers have done with crop circles.

    They cut muh cattle with lazurs...
    Hey why is their blood on your pocket knife?
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    Image of bonniegrrl bonniegrrl
    12/10/09

    @burlybax: Trust me when I say the ranchers aren't doing this themselves for fame. Believe it or not, not everyone wants their own reality show or their photo in the paper next to a UFO headline.

    Considering how much a single cow costs in the first place that would be like wrecking a brand-new Porche for fun. Too expensive.

    There's a BIG difference between making a big crop circle in your field, and killing your own livestock.
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    12/10/09

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    Whenever you see something like that, a wizard did it.
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    12/10/09

    @Bill-Lee: I concur. Clearly wizards. With laser-beam eyes and Superman capes.
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    12/10/09

    @Perhaps Not: More than one cape? That's stylish.
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    12/11/09

    @bogulmon001: Who can know the minds of laser wizards?
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    12/10/09

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    Beef! Its what's for dinner.
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