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I'll say this: it better be about a guy in a top hat with a huge mustache riding around in a giant thimble and buying entire streets, whereupon he mugs people who happen to loiter and forces them to stay in his hotel.
As for why Halo fell through, the answer is simple: Movie execs see video game-based projects as low-budget affairs, designed to pack in the 18-34 male demo on weekends during the slow months between summer and Xmas blockbusters. Halo is exceptional in that it actually has an involving narrative (as opposed to a flimsy pretense to shoot up things), but the over-40s running the studios failed to understand what captivated Jackson and Blomkamp. The same is true for the BioShock movie. I'm not sure if the idea that video games can actually have real stories in them worth expending $100-$200M (as opposed to, say, fifty year old theme park rides or twenty year old toy lines) has sunk in at the executive level. Not many gamers there, I'd wager.
The verdict is probably Toy Movies for 2 years. Bigger and dumber. But in the videogame versus movie argument, it could be that games need to evolve while movie-making becomes more democratic before we have a revolutionary industry-changing product. The Epic Videogame Debates seemed to conclude that games are still too simplistic and the movie industry is "too big to fail".
IOW, good game + good movie = new genre?
I thought Silent Hill was the best game adaptation yet. Even though they shifted the story a bit, the first half of the movie is almost identical to the first game...sans the main character's gender.
@0kami: Silent Hill really nailed the tone of the game, but the story kind of fell apart as they went along. Which is too bad, since the game has a pretty strong and screenplay-friendly story line compared with a shooter like Doom.
"Uwe Boll would have to work overtime and weekends to make a film half as bad as Catwoman"
The data does not support your assertion. "Catwoman" got a 27 on metacritic and 10 on Rotten Tomatoes. Of all of Uwe Boll's movies, only one (Blackwoods) outscored it on either - and only narrowly. The rest got substantially worse scores. I think it's clear that Mr. Boll is the single most important reason why video game movies suck.
Why no mention of Blade? I'd say it was the start of the new comic movie wave. Definitely the first Marvel one and showed what was to come in the 2000s.
@EdificeComplex: Honestly, would you really want one of the greatest games of this generation - even one with as rich of history and backstory is this - tainted by a Hollywood producer who doesn't quite get it? I'd rather there be no movie, as opposed to a half-assed one.
@Gyaruson: I think if a movie were to be made...make it in the same universe, but don't use any of the original characters from the games. Pull a Knights of the Old Republic, if you will, but for a movie. I think it could work. Hell they could even have Shepard or any of the other characters mentioned in the peripheral...like a section of the news on an elevator.
@Gyaruson: why would it matter if they made a crappy movie? it could either be great or good or suck... if it sucks it doesn't take anything away from how good the game is, and if its good then you have something whole and new to be happy with
@einsteinsquandry:
Hmmm, now you're on to something. That would be an interesting approach, casting the main character as someone new to the series. Maybe something like a few hundred years into the future, you follow the trials of another human spectre hunting some other type of galactic emergency.
@Gyaruson: I agree that it would require the right combination of director, studio and producer. But if you get a studio like Newline that was willing to take a risk, like they did with Lord of the Rings, then a movie could do the story justice. Although, realistically, it will probably never happen. I'm sure it will get trapped in budgetary hell like the Halo adaptation.
@bibble3000:
You must understand, I hold an ungodly passion for that game. I've read the books, I've put more hours into the game than any other title in years, and I have personally explored every option available in the campaign.
A sucky movie wouldn't take away from the greatness of the game, but as an amateur filmmaker it would kill me to see such potential go to waste. It pains me to see crappy movies based of off video games.
@EdificeComplex:
My dream team for the Mass Effect movie:
Director: Guillermo Del Toro - he could perfect all the different creatures and races in the game, as well as bring a darker, and more epic feel to the story than other directors.
Producer: Peter Jackson - Weta Workshop would give Del Toro all the resources necessary, and seeing as how Jackson is producing Del Toro's upcoming Hobbit films, it seems like a natural fit.
Studio: Either Miramax or New Line. Miramax I think takes the most risks in the films it releases, but New Line has worked closely with Jackson (and will work with Del Toro for the Hobbits), so it seems like there is enough trust from New Line to let Jackson and Co. do what they want.
@Gyaruson: I do understand. Like they're making the Scott Pilgrim movie and if its not A-flipping-mazing I'll be crazy disappointed. But I'll still have the books. Which are the besterest ever. And I just became a girl apparently... so... yea...
First Class wasn't supposed to be an origin movie, it was always described as more of a New Mutants movie (regardless of what "First Class" implies).
There is no point in making an X-Men origins movie without the original 5 X-Men, and Singer himself has made that an impossibility by casting Iceman and Angel as children to Cyclops and Jean Grey's adults, with Hank McCoy being a generation older than them, but that part can be ignored (truly, Kelsey Grammar as Beast is the most inspired casting ever in a comic book movie, and the only great part of X3. You may argue Stewart as Xavier, but while undeniably awesome, it isn't really inspired, but obvious and necessary)
The First Class name could mean the first class of young mutants specifically trained as warriors(Which is how I interpreted it after learning it didn't mean the actual first first class), and could focus on the younger students from the movie- Iceman, Angel, Colossus, Shadowcat, Jubilee, Siren, whoever else was in there.
Save the "Origins" titles for the older characters from the movies like Magneto and Storm(after you recast her) and a good Wolverine origins movie, like the Japan story Hugh Jackman was pitching a while back. If he gets that made I'll forgive him for being over 6' tall. (nah, I let that go after how good he was in the first one and how brutally awesome he was in the second one)
As a person of "color", I think that this and other white written articles tend to over analize these themes and get more annoyed than they should...
I liked avatar, it's not original, and it is preachy, but it's also kinda fun.
I too, however think you touch very valid points about the recurrence of white people becoming the most awesome native. Would I like it more if they used more original ways of dealing with "issues"? yup.
I just don't think this is one of those movies you should go to see expecting anything more than a pretty flick with fun action scenes.
The film is not racist, but the humans are. If racism can be defined as the belief that race is a primary determinant of human(or humanoid) traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race, the humans exhibit their racism by believing their technoligical superiority proves their racial superiority, and is justification to remove the Na'vi from their home because the resource beneath it is more important to the humans than the well-being of those they deem the inferior race.
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12/21/09
I'll say this: it better be about a guy in a top hat with a huge mustache riding around in a giant thimble and buying entire streets, whereupon he mugs people who happen to loiter and forces them to stay in his hotel.
I'd watch that.
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IOW, good game + good movie = new genre?
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The data does not support your assertion. "Catwoman" got a 27 on metacritic and 10 on Rotten Tomatoes. Of all of Uwe Boll's movies, only one (Blackwoods) outscored it on either - and only narrowly. The rest got substantially worse scores. I think it's clear that Mr. Boll is the single most important reason why video game movies suck.
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Hmmm, now you're on to something. That would be an interesting approach, casting the main character as someone new to the series. Maybe something like a few hundred years into the future, you follow the trials of another human spectre hunting some other type of galactic emergency.
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You must understand, I hold an ungodly passion for that game. I've read the books, I've put more hours into the game than any other title in years, and I have personally explored every option available in the campaign.
A sucky movie wouldn't take away from the greatness of the game, but as an amateur filmmaker it would kill me to see such potential go to waste. It pains me to see crappy movies based of off video games.
12/21/09
My dream team for the Mass Effect movie:
Director: Guillermo Del Toro - he could perfect all the different creatures and races in the game, as well as bring a darker, and more epic feel to the story than other directors.
Producer: Peter Jackson - Weta Workshop would give Del Toro all the resources necessary, and seeing as how Jackson is producing Del Toro's upcoming Hobbit films, it seems like a natural fit.
Studio: Either Miramax or New Line. Miramax I think takes the most risks in the films it releases, but New Line has worked closely with Jackson (and will work with Del Toro for the Hobbits), so it seems like there is enough trust from New Line to let Jackson and Co. do what they want.
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Dude, I'll get a boner for Commander Shepard in Mass Effect 2, so you can be a girl, I'll be gay and we can all go shopping together.
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A game like Wasteland/Fallout would be a better project to do. At least it has a workable plot and interesting characters.
12/21/09
There is no point in making an X-Men origins movie without the original 5 X-Men, and Singer himself has made that an impossibility by casting Iceman and Angel as children to Cyclops and Jean Grey's adults, with Hank McCoy being a generation older than them, but that part can be ignored (truly, Kelsey Grammar as Beast is the most inspired casting ever in a comic book movie, and the only great part of X3. You may argue Stewart as Xavier, but while undeniably awesome, it isn't really inspired, but obvious and necessary)
The First Class name could mean the first class of young mutants specifically trained as warriors(Which is how I interpreted it after learning it didn't mean the actual first first class), and could focus on the younger students from the movie- Iceman, Angel, Colossus, Shadowcat, Jubilee, Siren, whoever else was in there.
Save the "Origins" titles for the older characters from the movies like Magneto and Storm(after you recast her) and a good Wolverine origins movie, like the Japan story Hugh Jackman was pitching a while back. If he gets that made I'll forgive him for being over 6' tall. (nah, I let that go after how good he was in the first one and how brutally awesome he was in the second one)
12/21/09
WTF has she been reading?
12/20/09
I liked avatar, it's not original, and it is preachy, but it's also kinda fun.
I too, however think you touch very valid points about the recurrence of white people becoming the most awesome native. Would I like it more if they used more original ways of dealing with "issues"? yup.
I just don't think this is one of those movies you should go to see expecting anything more than a pretty flick with fun action scenes.
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