@rek: But there's strong fan resistance to Rogers coming back as Cap, so I suspect Barnes will stay on. Rogers can go off and sit on a beach in the Caribbean or something.
Let's be honest: The superhero genre has been going for so long that original stories are difficult to pull off month after month (and Cap has been around for over 60 years). Killing Rogers with the planned intention of bringing him back is better than the half-assed way DC killed Superman and brought him back (or how they recently killed Batman, or broke his back, or the rather sloppy way they are bringing Barry Allen back, etc.).
Since it seems there is an actual plan to how the story is unfolding then does it really matter that Rogers is coming back? Especially if it all comes down to a well-told story?
@Geoffrey Sperl: Wasn't the death and return of Superman planned out? Ditto for Batman's back-breaking?
I think the real problem here, and the problem with legacy characters in comics, is that they're ageless. The "original stories are difficult" criticism is valid, certainly, but it would seem much less so if these old characters aged and died naturally.
The part that bothers me about all this is the disingenuous press; story-wise, you can pretty well guess it's going to happen. But when the companies putting out the stories make such a loud point to say "no, no, really, he's actually really totally dead this time!" it feels like a scam to get press.
Steve Rogers is the one and only Captain America. He doesn't even need his own book to be the biggest player in the Marvel U. Everytime Steve Rgoers shows up on panel you knew where things stood.
Sure, I like intrigue and plot twists as much as the next guy but I also like the good guys to win in the end. Steve Rgoers was the ultimate good guy. To have him be beaten by the jer-wad Tony Stark and then gunned down while in irons was disgusting (and made me cancel my subscription to his mag). This guy deserves better.
You like Bucky? Cool. Give him is own mag and make him the USAgent. Put Steve in the Avengers and get those books back on track. Marvel is missing its heart since Steve died.
@Michael Daniels: I think that was the point of his death. The man deserved so much better, but he gets killed from afar while bound in handcuffs because he's doing the right thing. If you remember the end of Civil War neither side really had the upper hand. Cap had his "Oh, shit, look at what we've done" moment and decide that it wasn't worth the collateral damage to punch each other more. He chooses to fight it in open court where people are less likely to be hurt. His reward was his inglorious death.
Actually Counterglow and Dry-Roasted bring up some good points.
If Marvel can have divine beings like Thor and Heracles running around, why not ancient superheroes like Moses, Buddha or Jesus?
Too controversial? Why? Are they afraid kids might dismiss Jesus as being wimpier than Thor? (I'd personally find that enormously funny but I'm already damn in some eyes.)
@corpore-metal: The Marvel universe has always been kind of weirdly Judeo-Christian Neutral. The gods that do appear--mostly the Norse or Greek Pantheons, and also Mephisto--are actually usually portrayed as science gods (Mephisto especially, which a lot of modern interpretations seem to forget about).
07/01/09
07/01/09
"Here's. Another. Marvel. Made. Eventual. Retcon."
07/02/09
06/28/09
That right there is why I stopped reading superhero comics by Marvel and DC. Nothing means anything.
06/28/09
Let's be honest: The superhero genre has been going for so long that original stories are difficult to pull off month after month (and Cap has been around for over 60 years). Killing Rogers with the planned intention of bringing him back is better than the half-assed way DC killed Superman and brought him back (or how they recently killed Batman, or broke his back, or the rather sloppy way they are bringing Barry Allen back, etc.).
Since it seems there is an actual plan to how the story is unfolding then does it really matter that Rogers is coming back? Especially if it all comes down to a well-told story?
06/28/09
06/29/09
I think the real problem here, and the problem with legacy characters in comics, is that they're ageless. The "original stories are difficult" criticism is valid, certainly, but it would seem much less so if these old characters aged and died naturally.
The part that bothers me about all this is the disingenuous press; story-wise, you can pretty well guess it's going to happen. But when the companies putting out the stories make such a loud point to say "no, no, really, he's actually really totally dead this time!" it feels like a scam to get press.
06/15/09
I hope this answers your questions.
06/15/09
Sure, I like intrigue and plot twists as much as the next guy but I also like the good guys to win in the end. Steve Rgoers was the ultimate good guy. To have him be beaten by the jer-wad Tony Stark and then gunned down while in irons was disgusting (and made me cancel my subscription to his mag). This guy deserves better.
You like Bucky? Cool. Give him is own mag and make him the USAgent. Put Steve in the Avengers and get those books back on track. Marvel is missing its heart since Steve died.
06/15/09
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06/15/09
06/15/09
Yes, I'm looking at you, Rob Liefeld
04/21/09
If Marvel can have divine beings like Thor and Heracles running around, why not ancient superheroes like Moses, Buddha or Jesus?
Too controversial? Why? Are they afraid kids might dismiss Jesus as being wimpier than Thor? (I'd personally find that enormously funny but I'm already damn in some eyes.)
04/21/09
So, I don't know.
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