When Brandon the MD lab rat was explaining the Observers experience of time with his blue-water analogy, was anybody else thinking, "chrono-synclastic infundibulum"?
And: I don't think that September saved Walter and Peter from the lake. The creepy way that story keeps popping up, and especially considering this week's episode, I think September saved Walter... and not Peter. Walter is telling us the story of Peter's death.
For a second, I really, truly thought that the kidnapped chick (Christine?) and August the Observer were going to make-out or something. Kinda of freaked me out but then I thought, "Well, at least it's not Edward and Bella..." Long story short, thanks Twilight for making me semi-okay with creepy romances on Fringe.
I didn't buy for a minute that the Big Guy was dead so I suspected someone was setting her up. I just didn't guess it was Magnus herself. I thought Declan was still running the London Sanctuary so why is he spending so much time in Magnus' Sanctuary?
Looks like next episode is the James Bond/Die Hard cool one.
@geesejuggler:
I liked season 1, but I couldn't get through 20 minutes of season 2. I already get plenty of light and fun from Eureka and Warehouse 13.
i enjoyed the episode.i liked hearing the observers have been on our planet for at least 1,000's of years and they showed up in historical art & photos (that was funny).
When the MD guy was talking about Observers' view of time with the tube and blue water, my first thought was a) "is this a feminine hygine ad?" and b) "Eh, I liked the Quantum Leap explanation with the string crumpled up much better."
@Evil Tortie's Mom: Yeah, that seemed like quite a reach for an observation that could have been about as easily explained with "Wow -- male pattern baldness has really been with the human race for a long time, hasn't it?"
I had no idea Peter was from an alternate universe. When did this happen? I've only started on Season 2.
One thing I'd like to note is that I don't think so many sightings of Observers means the most important moment in human history is coming (though that is certainly one interpretation) but that our culture is actually speeding up. More people and an information superhighway means that any single event could prove much more important. Long ago, genocide or some other major event in another part of the world may not have concerned humanity as a whole because we were easily separated by cultural and physical boundaries and thus it was not Observed. Now that we are becoming so interconnected, however, I think the Observers are seeing that what may have once been minor is now very important.
Or maybe I'm stuck in sociology mode from studying for my exam. I'm just saying.
Also, I'm kind of wondering how August will be replaced, if at all.
EDIT: The more I read this post, the less sense I feel I make. Is anybody getting this or am I having a Walter Moment?
There are most likely 12 active Observers at any given time considering that they are named after months however, there may be more scattered through out the planet. (We have seen what is most likely a child Observer in "Inner Child".)
There are most likely Observers in the alternative universe since they were able to bring Peter over as well as give Walter a coin from the other side. Meaning that they are neutral in the war.
The color pattern green, green, green, green and red means something to them since that pattern has appeared hidden throughout past episodes as well as on their technology.
They do not kill, nor do they travel randomly. No side trips for a Slush-O. They have their assignments and stick to those places until it is over. Which is why they "hire" other people to be assassins and couriers.
They are not "The Strangers". Richard O'Brien in not an Observer.
Not only do they have a dull sense of taste, they also don't feel like we do. In the hottest day and the coldest ones, they only wear their suits. No coats. No shorts. Just the suit.
@mekki: Wasn't green, green, green, red the pattern used in that episode with the hypnosis? I noticed that, although I don't remember seeing it anywhere else in the series.
Some quick thoughts...
1)I think they are extra terrestrials.
2) I don't think the writing is taken from other civilations- if they have 1200 characters without repeating one, then eventually there would have to be a coincidental squggle of lines that looks like something we already have on earth- there are only so many ways to mark a piece of paper with ink.
2a) not impossible that one of their alphabetic characters got picked up by an ancient civilaztion and was borrowed.
3) They have very insensitive taste buds and need serious heat to taste anything.
4) I don't think there ever was a frozen lake- Walter made up a story to explain who this strange man was. September is responsible for Walter crossing to the other side to steal Peter, making Walter's story tangentially true- the observer is responsible for Walter not losing his son, just not in the way Walter says... OR, he was responsible for peter's death and the correction was getting other peter for Walter here.
@BlueBeard: You are correct in your answer to 2a. The references to cuneiform writing and the Iron Pillar of Delhi were meant to establish the Observers as having been around and lurking on the periphery of human civilization for thousands of years.
@BlueBeard: They made mention that it was similar to a nitrogen atom, so I wonder if all their writings have to do with the periodic table. This wouldn't be the first time a sci-fi show went in this direction. There was an episode of Stargate that had a similar "language." Don't recall the name of the episode, but they found the really old guy who went through the gate in the 40's...
@BlueBeard: I've been thinking number 1 as well. I complained a few weeks ago around here about the stand alone ep "Earthling", and that I didn't like that Fringe was bringing aliens on board the show... but maybe the aliens have been here all along.
I tried, but couldn't identify the song playing in the car after Olivia's phone call. Anyone else have better luck?
As for the Observers, I'm wondering if the one we've seen up until this point is assigned (or "fond of", in a sense) Peter -- because he was there to save Peter and Walter -- or Olivia -- because she's pretty obviously special in some major ways -- or both.
@omgwtflolbbqbye: Yup, hyper-evolved humans from a parallel universe. So, that means there has to be an Anti-Monitor as well. Maybe a super-vampire Monitor that all the universes' Peters and Olivias have to battle at the end. But just don't let Grant Morrison write the last bit.
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When Brandon the MD lab rat was explaining the Observers experience of time with his blue-water analogy, was anybody else thinking, "chrono-synclastic infundibulum"?
And: I don't think that September saved Walter and Peter from the lake. The creepy way that story keeps popping up, and especially considering this week's episode, I think September saved Walter... and not Peter. Walter is telling us the story of Peter's death.
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..and I was thinking they were testing Will in some strange ARG at first. The "you are suppose to replace her" line was the trigger.
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I liked season 1, but I couldn't get through 20 minutes of season 2. I already get plenty of light and fun from Eureka and Warehouse 13.
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One thing I'd like to note is that I don't think so many sightings of Observers means the most important moment in human history is coming (though that is certainly one interpretation) but that our culture is actually speeding up. More people and an information superhighway means that any single event could prove much more important. Long ago, genocide or some other major event in another part of the world may not have concerned humanity as a whole because we were easily separated by cultural and physical boundaries and thus it was not Observed. Now that we are becoming so interconnected, however, I think the Observers are seeing that what may have once been minor is now very important.
Or maybe I'm stuck in sociology mode from studying for my exam. I'm just saying.
Also, I'm kind of wondering how August will be replaced, if at all.
EDIT: The more I read this post, the less sense I feel I make. Is anybody getting this or am I having a Walter Moment?
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There are most likely Observers in the alternative universe since they were able to bring Peter over as well as give Walter a coin from the other side. Meaning that they are neutral in the war.
The color pattern green, green, green, green and red means something to them since that pattern has appeared hidden throughout past episodes as well as on their technology.
They do not kill, nor do they travel randomly. No side trips for a Slush-O. They have their assignments and stick to those places until it is over. Which is why they "hire" other people to be assassins and couriers.
They are not "The Strangers". Richard O'Brien in not an Observer.
Not only do they have a dull sense of taste, they also don't feel like we do. In the hottest day and the coldest ones, they only wear their suits. No coats. No shorts. Just the suit.
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1)I think they are extra terrestrials.
2) I don't think the writing is taken from other civilations- if they have 1200 characters without repeating one, then eventually there would have to be a coincidental squggle of lines that looks like something we already have on earth- there are only so many ways to mark a piece of paper with ink.
2a) not impossible that one of their alphabetic characters got picked up by an ancient civilaztion and was borrowed.
3) They have very insensitive taste buds and need serious heat to taste anything.
4) I don't think there ever was a frozen lake- Walter made up a story to explain who this strange man was. September is responsible for Walter crossing to the other side to steal Peter, making Walter's story tangentially true- the observer is responsible for Walter not losing his son, just not in the way Walter says... OR, he was responsible for peter's death and the correction was getting other peter for Walter here.
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As for the Observers, I'm wondering if the one we've seen up until this point is assigned (or "fond of", in a sense) Peter -- because he was there to save Peter and Walter -- or Olivia -- because she's pretty obviously special in some major ways -- or both.
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