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    Scientology Trial Reveals Alleged Work Camps and Baby-Killing

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    Image of Trai_Dep Trai_Dep
    09:28 AM

    In reply to Scientology Trial Reveals Alleged Work Camps and Baby-Killing
    At the risk of being seen as a god-hater, I'm hesitant to put murdering (or manslaughtering) toddling children under the umbrella of Freedom of Religion.
    I know. What a stick-in-the-mud.
    Aztec blood sacrificing - especially of the ripping hearts out of gushing chests - however, involving adults and being spectacularly YouTube-friendly, needs to be added.
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    Image of Klebert L. Hall Klebert L. Hall
    09:06 AM

    In reply to Scientology Trial Reveals Alleged Work Camps and Baby-Killing
    Well, I can't really see any way that the Scientologists could possibly force anyone to do anything, since membership is voluntary and they have no legal enforcement/coercive powers.

    Seems like we have two cases of kids dying because of poor parental responsibility, and a bunch of complaints that people don't know when to say "screw you, I'm leaving".

    Always good to blame someone else, especially if they're a persecuted minority. Sounds like a witch hunt to me, just like the rest of the anti-scientology crap.
    -Kle.
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    Image of aaron.b aaron.b
    09:31 AM

    @Klebert L. Hall: By that logic, no sect, church, gang, corporation or other non-governmental group of people could ever force somebody to do something because these also have no "legal enforcement powers". This seems somewhat illogical and ignorant to me, as it both ignores the various ILLEGAL corcive options available to practically group of people AND ignores the reality of a world filled with groups without legal enforcement powers that use threats, economic damages or just plain social engineering to make it members do what the group wants.

    Of course, it also sounds like blatant pro-Scientology propaganda, so it's not really surprising that it's both wrong and devoid of any grounding in reality.
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    Image of karpar karpar
    09:40 AM

    @Klebert L. Hall: While the church may have no formal coercive powers, religions automatically hold a great deal of sway over their true believers, and even those who are not completely on board with the religion are still part of a community whose affirmation/condemnation can be a powerful tool. The notion of people staying in abusive or harmful situations to the consternation of outside observers isn't exactly unheard of. Group membership and external affirmation are very important to us social animals, and we go a long way to preserve them.
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    Image of Bootknife-Jackson Bootknife-Jackson
    11/20/09

    In reply to Scientology Trial Reveals Alleged Work Camps and Baby-Killing
    we always used to go down to the big Scientology building in downtown Hollywood when we didn't have any money, and take free E-Meter tests, and just generally mess with the scientologists. it was a good way to kill 20-30 minutes...
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    Image of fatetwister64 fatetwister64
    11/20/09

    @Bootknife-Jackson: Brave man. That place looks like a damn fortress.
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    Image of gorehound gorehound
    11/20/09

    @Bootknife-Jackson: hahaha.if i lived there i probably would of been on acid as well.
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    Image of Bootknife-Jackson Bootknife-Jackson
    01:42 AM

    @gorehound: let me just say this, storming the scientology building stoned= lot of fun. Storming the scientology building on coke= terrifying.

    .....i hear...
    #calendar
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    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    02:00 PM

    @Bootknife-Jackson: That is brave indeed. Did you figure out the answers they wanted to hear and ace the tests?
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    Image of Bootknife-Jackson Bootknife-Jackson
    08:10 PM

    @Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.: you can't NOT fail the test, or pass...whatever. they just want your money, it's totally bogus, so they bait you and ask you loaded questions and spin it to convince you that you need the salvation they are hocking...at a premium

    it's odd to me how transparent the scam aspect of it is, and all these people are still eating it up. it's insane
    #calendar
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    Image of Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H. Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.
    09:44 PM

    @Bootknife-Jackson: Ah, they used to give a written test which any normal person would, of course, fail according to their standards, and then they'd go on with the scam.

    But I heard tell of those who'd answer perfectly by their standards, just to watch their heads spin. The drones knew what to say to average people, but had no ingrained patter to deal with anyone who got them all "right".
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    Image of Bootknife-Jackson Bootknife-Jackson
    10:17 PM

    @Evil Tortie's Mom: R.O.A.C.H.: hah. yeah that's essentially what my experience with the tests were like, thought they were usually integrated with an interview, that's really why we went, to mess with em, make up outlandish claims and answers. we never really dedicated ourselves to 'cracking the code' or even to answering correctly ;)

    #calendar
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    Image of rek rek
    11/20/09

    In reply to Scientology Trial Reveals Alleged Work Camps and Baby-Killing
    They always say their religious freedoms are under attack when someone targets... well anything *but* their religious freedoms.
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    Image of Bootknife-Jackson Bootknife-Jackson
    11/20/09

    @rek: good point!
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    Image of omgwtflolbbqbye omgwtflolbbqbye
    11/20/09

    In reply to Scientology Trial Reveals Alleged Work Camps and Baby-Killing
    Is it weird that I'm not shocked by this?

    At all.
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    Image of Eridani Eridani
    11/20/09

    @omgwtflolbbqbye: I'd be shocked if you were shocked.
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    Image of Bootknife-Jackson Bootknife-Jackson
    11/20/09

    @Eridani: and i'd be shocked if you were shocked that he was shocked!
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    Image of Eridani Eridani
    11/20/09

    @Bootknife-Jackson: Shocking!
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    Image of Bootknife-Jackson Bootknife-Jackson
    01:44 AM

    @Eridani: Capital!

    #calendar
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    Image of ThisDudeRufus ThisDudeRufus
    11/20/09

    In reply to Scientology Trial Reveals Alleged Work Camps and Baby-Killing
    I've avoided 4Chan like the plague since I first heard about it, but maybe someone can tell me; did it HAVE to be V masks?
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    Image of CodenameV CodenameV
    11/20/09

    @ThisDudeRufus: how could it not be?
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    Image of Rocketknight Rocketknight
    11/20/09

    @ThisDudeRufus: Guy Fawkes was/is a symbol of rebellion to the British and now to people everywhere thanks to V. When you look at the context the mask has in V for Vendetta, it makes sense; the original fell, but people everywhere began wearing the masks to demonstrate their rebellion against the government while also protecting their identities.

    It actually kind of brings a tear to the eye.
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    Image of limber limber
    02:38 AM

    @ThisDudeRufus: V masks and suits, frequently. The suits really complete the look, I think.

    Not to mention it utterly confuses people who think internet trolls live in their mum's basements wearing elasticated clothing.
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    Image of Neiten Neiten
    06:56 AM

    @Rocketknight: Think it brought a tear to Alan Moore's eye too. There was an article where said he felt proud that the anti-scientology protestors wore the Guy Fawkes masks.

    It was about the only positive thing - in his opinion - that the film achieved.
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    Image of Neiten Neiten
    06:59 AM

    @Neiten: "I was also quite heartened the other day when watching the news to see that there were demonstrations outside the Scientology headquarters over here, and that they suddenly flashed to a clip showing all these demonstrators wearing V for Vendetta Guy Fawkes masks. That pleased me. That gave me a warm little glow."

    link
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    Image of Dresan Dresan
    11/20/09

    In reply to Scientology Trial Reveals Alleged Work Camps and Baby-Killing
    It's incredible how they consider each other bitter enemies: one is a mega organization, with incredible funds and vast influences in politics and financial institutions; the other is a group of moderately bored teens... with some hacker skillz.

    Of course I mean no harm to either organization.
    #paranoia
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    Image of Annalee Newitz Annalee Newitz
    11/20/09

    @Dresan: I think you meant haXOr skillz. ;)
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    Image of Dresan Dresan
    11/20/09

    @Annalee Newitz: I didn't even try to write that in l33t because I wasn't very sure of how to write it...
    I didn't want to look like a n00b!
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    Image of CodenameV CodenameV
    11/20/09

    @Dresan: Sir, they're in it for the Lulz. That's what makes them dangerous. They can't be bought, bullied, bargained or reasoned with.
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    Image of BadUncle BadUncle
    09/15/09

    In reply to Hell is Other Teddy Bears
    Even Natas is adorable.
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    Image of crashedpc - Haifisch crashedpc - Haifisch
    09/15/09

    In reply to Hell is Other Teddy Bears
    Where's the guy gnawing on the other guy's head in the frozen lake that Satan's in?
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    Image of TemporalSword TemporalSword
    09/15/09

    In reply to Hell is Other Teddy Bears
    So which animals represent the lawyers?
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    Image of ManchuCandidate ManchuCandidate
    09/15/09

    @TemporalSword:
    Dung beetles?
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    Image of gods-n-clods gods-n-clods
    09/15/09

    In reply to Hell is Other Teddy Bears
    Nice to see Luke Chueh here, if not a little unexpected. His work is one example of being both rock-solid art, but earnestly salable (as opposed to a regular sellout fine art whooore).
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    Image of CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard) CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard)
    09/15/09

    In reply to Hell is Other Teddy Bears
    Awesome. Just awesome. Is the cat at the top of the mouse/cheese hill doing the rock out sign or the supposed Diablo sign. I always got told (being metal through and through), that this sign was never the sign for the devil, but infact spanish for Bull. I think Dio was the one who said it in an interview about how it caught on from one of his gigs. Im not saying its true or right. But has anyone else ever heard of this story???
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    Image of gods-n-clods gods-n-clods
    09/15/09

    @CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard): There is a small separatist nation inside of the United States; it is called Texas. They would claim they coined the gesture, and in between barbecue pork belches, they say WHOO HOO HOOK 'EM HORNS while doing that horn-thing. Yep.
    Sports fans, same all over the world.
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    Image of CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard) CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard)
    09/15/09

    @gods-n-clods: Yikes!! I didnt know its origins ran so deep..and mental ;-)
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    Image of OW-Holmes:Bringer of Fear OW-Holmes:Bringer of Fear
    09/15/09

    @gods-n-clods: BBQ pork is more of a Memphis thing.

    Go Horns.
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    Image of AmishJohn AmishJohn
    09/15/09

    @OW-Holmes--Upset with Polling: Agreed. If it's Texas, it's beef: Ribs, brisket, or whole clod.
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    Image of e30 guy e30 guy
    09/15/09

    @CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard): Dio's grandma invented it.
    [en.wikipedia.org]
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    Image of CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard) CoffinDodger (If the typos crap. Blame my keyboard)
    09/15/09

    @e30 guy: Haha. Well if its on Wiki!!
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    Image of gods-n-clods gods-n-clods
    09/15/09

    @AmishJohn: Trues, beef for certain. My tasty-barnyard-good-eats geography was off. I think it was my inner neanderthal expressing his repressed bbq bloodlust, because he is not allowed to eat greazy terrestrial creatures anymore.
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    Image of OW-Holmes:Bringer of Fear OW-Holmes:Bringer of Fear
    09/15/09

    In reply to Hell is Other Teddy Bears
    Thats what those teddy bears get for having such a raucous picnic.

    Now which one to pick as a background?
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    Image of ManchuCandidate ManchuCandidate
    09/15/09

    In reply to Hell is Other Teddy Bears
    If you go out to Hades today
    You're sure of a big surprise.
    If you go out to Hades today
    You'd better go in disguise.

    For every bear that ever there was
    Will roast there for certain, because
    Today's the day the teddy bears burn in their inferno.
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    Image of Grey_Area Grey_Area
    09/15/09

    In reply to Hell is Other Teddy Bears
    Adhorrible!
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