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also keep in mind the writers they had on the phone every day weren't some hollywood types, but a brain trust of Marvel writers they recruited for this project
@Dresan: I thought that was a great scene. Maybe there's something to this improv approach (provided they basically, somehow, keep the reins on all the horses): you just get much more freshness coming out of the screen, dollar for dollar. You gotta admit Iron Man ruled. It was a great movie.
I just saw "Sherlock Holmes" and during the talk afterwards, Downey said they were 'working' the script every day, that he considers the script simply to be a starting point, and that he and the other actors improvised a lot. As such, I am not surprised to hear he did much the same on Iron Man.
@twophrasebark: Hear hear. There's something to be said for flying by the seat of your pants; it brings out a lot more energy from the people involved.
@plan99fromouterspace: no. although it probably didn't help. i have heard nothing but negative things about the guy. he is a self centered crazy person
I'm a little confused. The movie credits FOUR screenwriters for this movie: Mark Fergus, Hawk Ostby, Art Marcum, and Matt Holloway. Does Jeff Bridges mean that there was NO script in place or that the "suits" just tossed the script out the door and told the director and actors to run with it? If there was no script, then why are these guys given credits?
@tkanger1: it says that they had an outline of what they wanted. the lines they had in there were probably just suggested. Thats how I am viewing it anyways.
@Bryan Young: somebody wrote the outline... and Twophrasebark is right, what could have happened (i'm basing this on experience in development, not conjecture) is that they hired one writer (or a team of two) to write the script, they got it, and hated it, fired the original writer(s) and hired another one to doctor it. it still stank, or new creative people came in and had other ideas they wanted to incorporate, so they hired another writer to do a new draft, than as the roll date got closer, they paniked, and realized they had a mess on their hands, Jon Favreau came on, and they threw out the script, and didnt have enough time to properly prepare a new one, and somehow Favreau swinged the improv approach. the reason the 'suits' went with it, i assume, is out of desperation
@Oranges w/ Cheese has 2 cats! ahahaha.: see? exactly! he used to own an arcade and make cool video games, than he got screwed out of it by The Man, man! so now he just sorta hangs out in Valencia and bowls... you want Tron 2? we've had it since 1998 man....
I'm not really shocked that they had no script. One of the reasons why I love Iron Man is because everyone seems to have fantastic chemistry together and I kinda thought that some of the scenes were probably ad-libbed.
@geesejuggler: Yep. Of the two good superhero movies that year, I thought it was the Dark Knight that did not have a script. Iron Man was tight and sleek, without a gram of fat in it. Dark Knight was still good but it was really bloated and convoluted.
@geesejuggler: I'm not shocked either. I just watched the Blu-Ray (yum) and was startled to see 4 frigging 'written by' names up there, which usually is the kiss of death; but there was so much chit chat in this film, all those great moments where RDJr talked over Pepper or Rhodey or something wacky came out of someone's mouth, that I hoped that it was all ad-libbed anyway!
@sonicsurge: He's implying that if you get people who can actually act, as opposed to people who just famous and happened to be in movies but can't act, that they can overcome obstacles such has having no script.
@ZhannTk: Not always, of course, but they can give you something because they know how to "flesh out" a role. Think of all Morgan Freeman, Michael Caine, Liam Neeson, Gary Oldman and Christian Baled gave to Batman Begins despite some of the clunky dialogue they were given. Now think of how absolutely little Katie Holmes brought with the same script.
@AngriestGeek: Yeah, talented actors can really bring a lot to mediocre writing. Anybody but Gary Oldman doing the monologue at the end of Dark Knight, and I'd be pretty frustrated with it. But because it's Gary Oldman and he does it just right, it's a spectacularly memorable ending.
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That's cool. It's probably why the movie turned out so well. The dialogue and acting did seem very natural.
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I hope they do Iron Man 2 the same way.
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Who knows how they arrived at that if what Bridges says is true...
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Occula: Yeah, the scene where Rhodey and Tony are on the plane is one scene that stuck out in my mind when I read this.
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